How many are switching from Fidelity?
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Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
I do some of that too, in a couple of accounts. I was glad to see that assignment fees are also zero for TD Ameritrade now, for those cases when a position actually gets called. Some brokers, like TD Ameritrade and Wells Fargo Advisors, have charged me absurdly high commissions in the past, for what amounts to basically a bookkeeping entry. I've always liked that Fidelity charges just a standard ($4.95) commission for option assignments.
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
When you make weekly contributions, that is 52x trades per year. Sure, you can trade their free funds & ETF's, but what if I don't want to? I currently only trade non-free funds as little as possible (not at all if I can avoid it), but if I had a choice, I'd trade once a week.
I'd be happy with 50 free trades per year. Or like 1 per month or some small token "we appreciate your business" gesture.
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
I see multiple responses mention 2% cashback credit card. If you like that then you would love Bank of America’s 2.625% card. Need 100K+ in assets at Merrill to qualify for highest tier.
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I guess when I was with eTrade (but that was picking individual stocks back then) I had all investment and banking (including loans) on one simple website. At the time that was very nice and one can get used to that quickly.ruralavalon wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:16 am+ 1.
I recall being so thrilled when I was able to do an in-service rollover of my expensive 401k into a Vanguard IRA.
I have always wondered why some want an excellent fund company to also be a bank.
We use a bank with a branch our home for banking functions (joint checking account, credit cards, debit cards). Any issues, like lost or misplaced cards, can be fully resolved (you walk out with a replacement card) in a 5 minute visit to the branch.
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Any time I have left an employer and rolled the accounts to Vanguard it was a nice feeling. Someday when retired, things should be much more simple and easier.SevenBridgesRoad wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:40 amSimilar feelings here. Had accounts at Vanguard and Fidelity because of employer. Moved everything from Fidelity to Vanguard upon retirement.
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Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
+1 CMA and a linked brokerage (higher yielding MM on direct deposits) forms my primary checking and savings combined account. No other assets held there though.
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Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
Or if you spend mostly on dining, travel, or gas you can get 3-4.5% easily with Wells Fargo (4.5% if spent on airfare, not cash).
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
Yeah, I will be moving my stocks to Schwab. However, I will be keeping my IRA and HSA at Fidelity.
No commission trades plus the bonus is enough to make me switch. Easy $1,200 (minus taxes).
Bonus link: https://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/nn ... eward.html
Bonus tiers:
$200 bonus for $50,000–$99,999 deposit
$300 bonus for $100,000–$249,999 deposit
$600 bonus for $250,000–$499,999 deposit
$1,200 bonus for $500,000–$999,999 deposit
$2,500 bonus for $1,000,000+ deposit
No commission trades plus the bonus is enough to make me switch. Easy $1,200 (minus taxes).
Bonus link: https://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/nn ... eward.html
Bonus tiers:
$200 bonus for $50,000–$99,999 deposit
$300 bonus for $100,000–$249,999 deposit
$600 bonus for $250,000–$499,999 deposit
$1,200 bonus for $500,000–$999,999 deposit
$2,500 bonus for $1,000,000+ deposit
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
Nope. Not even thinking about leaving Fidelity. I’ll take zero ER over “free” equity trades.
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
I will not be changing anything. If I could buy Vanguard funds (admiral) at Fidelity for free (no $75 out of network fee) they would get more of my business. I prefer MF to ETFs. Saving $5 on the ETF would not attract me.
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
I'm waiting to see what Fidelity's response is.
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
I listened to an interesting podcast on Morningstar. They said the result of a "free" trades might be they will outsource their trade which could result in poor buy/sell execution by the third party.
Are No-Commission Trades Good for Investors?
Are No-Commission Trades Good for Investors?
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Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
There is an interesting article by Jason Zweig in today's Wall Street Journal "Your Stock Trades Go Free but Your Cash Is in Chains".
The Zweig article points out that Schwab nicks you by putting you in their very low interest bank accounts rather than higher interest money market funds.
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Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
The financial industry expects that the brokerages who have made the most drastic commission cuts will have to replace that commission income in some manner. Most expect it to be with staff cuts and that equates to service erosion.
Even if you calculate your annual commission savings (less the small amount of additional cap gains tax you will owe), and it appears worth a move, why not wait a couple months to see if Fidelity eventually matches the others? If so, it saves you the hassle of transferring accounts.
Even if you calculate your annual commission savings (less the small amount of additional cap gains tax you will owe), and it appears worth a move, why not wait a couple months to see if Fidelity eventually matches the others? If so, it saves you the hassle of transferring accounts.
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
My investment style is a lot different than most people here. I still like the forums because there is some excellent info on here. I invest primarily in undervalued high quality blue chip dividend growth stocks. I just don't index. I'm by no means a high volume trader but i probably do 6-7 trades a month. I will probably give fidelity until November 1st then i will start moving some of my accounts. I'm not sure who i'm going to go with at this point but i'm looking at schwab, tdameritrade, & ibkr. What i need to decide if i every want to dable in day trading (with a small amount of money for fun more than anything else). If i do tdameritrade with thinkorswim or ibrk (upgrading my account to pro) would probably be better options. I agree with everyone else that fidelity support has been excellent but i heard schwab support is also excellent. For the few times i've had to call them not worth spending ~$420 a year.
I've actually used robinhood for some free trades. Although i think they have one of the best mobile apps their services suck. No DRIP, NO IRA/Roth, ect. I've been using firstrade some. Their mobile app i would say is just barely ok. Its good enough to do the limited amount of order i need i guess. Their website is better and they give you access to morningstar research which is great. Their support is decent but kind of can be hard to understand they support reps because they have a heavy asian accent. So while these options have been servicable i'm happy to move my money for these accounts to a more reputable broker.
I do need to do some research on which broker has the best tools. Fidelity tools are descent and i'll probably keep a little money in firstrade just for access to the morningstar feed.
i will probably keep my fidelity cash management account for awhile because of how big in a pain it is to change your checking account and all your bill pay stuff. The inconvenience is the transfer speed. When everything is almost in the same institution of course its almost instantaneous. Otherwise its usually 5 business days. I remember scwab having a pretty comparable checking account feature on their accounts too though.
I've actually used robinhood for some free trades. Although i think they have one of the best mobile apps their services suck. No DRIP, NO IRA/Roth, ect. I've been using firstrade some. Their mobile app i would say is just barely ok. Its good enough to do the limited amount of order i need i guess. Their website is better and they give you access to morningstar research which is great. Their support is decent but kind of can be hard to understand they support reps because they have a heavy asian accent. So while these options have been servicable i'm happy to move my money for these accounts to a more reputable broker.
I do need to do some research on which broker has the best tools. Fidelity tools are descent and i'll probably keep a little money in firstrade just for access to the morningstar feed.
i will probably keep my fidelity cash management account for awhile because of how big in a pain it is to change your checking account and all your bill pay stuff. The inconvenience is the transfer speed. When everything is almost in the same institution of course its almost instantaneous. Otherwise its usually 5 business days. I remember scwab having a pretty comparable checking account feature on their accounts too though.
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
I would switch, but not just because. It would take a promo to get me to do so. I've heard some others claim they got offered a promo from Schwab to move funds to them. If they offered this to me (they have never offered me a promo) I'd switch. Otherwise staying where I am for now.Boilermaker10 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:21 pmJust curious how many Bogleheads are switching from fidelity to TD Ameritrade, Schwab, or ETrade with the dropping of commission fees?
I have accounts at vanguard and Fidelity, and was considering moving the Fidelity accounts to one of the companies that has dropped commissions. I have already asked Fidelity to match the free trades and they basically said not at this time.
Any advice on which one to move to or which to avoid?
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Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
Schwab is offering you a promo: https://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/nn ... eward.htmlsperry8 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:51 pmI would switch, but not just because. It would take a promo to get me to do so. I've heard some others claim they got offered a promo from Schwab to move funds to them. If they offered this to me (they have never offered me a promo) I'd switch. Otherwise staying where I am for now.Boilermaker10 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:21 pmJust curious how many Bogleheads are switching from fidelity to TD Ameritrade, Schwab, or ETrade with the dropping of commission fees?
I have accounts at vanguard and Fidelity, and was considering moving the Fidelity accounts to one of the companies that has dropped commissions. I have already asked Fidelity to match the free trades and they basically said not at this time.
Any advice on which one to move to or which to avoid?
Bonus tiers:
$200 bonus for $50,000–$99,999 deposit
$300 bonus for $100,000–$249,999 deposit
$600 bonus for $250,000–$499,999 deposit
$1,200 bonus for $500,000–$999,999 deposit
$2,500 bonus for $1,000,000+ deposit
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
Thanks! If Schwab counts in-kind fund transfers, then I'll be switching asap.DrCheese wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:34 pmSchwab is offering you a promo: https://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/nn ... eward.htmlsperry8 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:51 pmI would switch, but not just because. It would take a promo to get me to do so. I've heard some others claim they got offered a promo from Schwab to move funds to them. If they offered this to me (they have never offered me a promo) I'd switch. Otherwise staying where I am for now.Boilermaker10 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:21 pmJust curious how many Bogleheads are switching from fidelity to TD Ameritrade, Schwab, or ETrade with the dropping of commission fees?
I have accounts at vanguard and Fidelity, and was considering moving the Fidelity accounts to one of the companies that has dropped commissions. I have already asked Fidelity to match the free trades and they basically said not at this time.
Any advice on which one to move to or which to avoid?
Bonus tiers:
$200 bonus for $50,000–$99,999 deposit
$300 bonus for $100,000–$249,999 deposit
$600 bonus for $250,000–$499,999 deposit
$1,200 bonus for $500,000–$999,999 deposit
$2,500 bonus for $1,000,000+ deposit
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Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
If it was free vanguard mutual fund purchases outside of vanguard I'd be moving in a heartbeat. Free trades meh.
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
I am waiting to see what Fidelity does (someone else said Nov 1, I will likely not wait that long - if they don't cut by 10/15 I don't think they will). I have a few accounts at Fidelity, although the bulk of our assets are at VG. One of the accounts at Fidelity is my "play account", where I do a good bit of active trading. I would rather just leave it where it is, but I do enough trading in my "play account" that it's worth it to switch.
As far as where to move it, I used TDA in the past, but it seems they have fees on 30-day ETF buy/sells, which I don't love. Schwab didn't seem to have that cost so I may choose them, although I'll miss the better Fidelity MMF rates.
I'm hoping Fidelity just steps up to the plate, we'll see.
As far as where to move it, I used TDA in the past, but it seems they have fees on 30-day ETF buy/sells, which I don't love. Schwab didn't seem to have that cost so I may choose them, although I'll miss the better Fidelity MMF rates.
I'm hoping Fidelity just steps up to the plate, we'll see.
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Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
According to feedback in the TDA thread, the short term trading fee has been eliminated.2commaBH wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:59 pmI am waiting to see what Fidelity does (someone else said Nov 1, I will likely not wait that long - if they don't cut by 10/15 I don't think they will). I have a few accounts at Fidelity, although the bulk of our assets are at VG. One of the accounts at Fidelity is my "play account", where I do a good bit of active trading. I would rather just leave it where it is, but I do enough trading in my "play account" that it's worth it to switch.
As far as where to move it, I used TDA in the past, but it seems they have fees on 30-day ETF buy/sells, which I don't love. Schwab didn't seem to have that cost so I may choose them, although I'll miss the better Fidelity MMF rates.
I'm hoping Fidelity just steps up to the plate, we'll see.
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Is this going to be something of a "loss leader" the way supermarkets rotate what they have on sale each week? How are they going to make money? Are they going to try to add some sneaky fees elsewhere? One of the big things historically is that whether the market went up or down didn't necessarily matter in the long run to the financial institutions since they were going to get paid from everyone buying stocks whether they were buying in greed or selling in fear (or for other reasons, of course). How are they making their money? In mutual funds, there is the ER, which because of competition and popularity of Vanguard index funds and others is now decreasing, as well as active funds since ER is more openly discussed (though other fees may not be).
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This happened at an opportune time. I am very pro Fido and have been consolidating at Fidelity for years and was just starting to transfer from TDA to Fido then the commission free thing happened. I contacted my Fido assigned account rep and all he could say was he would give me some more free trades but that is dependent on his generosity and company policy. So I decided to keep my current TDA allocation for now, in addition I transferred an additional 300K to TDA with 200K more to follow. I would take the identity theft risk of opening a new account, but given I already have one I see no reason not to take advantage of free, it will buy me two pizzas or amonths supply of Mexican Pepsi at least (I tend to view things as how many pizzas or bottles of Mexican Pepsi I can buy when making purchase decisions - LOL).
Fido's loss is my waist's caloric gain and transfer will not change my tier status at Fido.
Fido's loss is my waist's caloric gain and transfer will not change my tier status at Fido.
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I am very pleased with Fidelity. No plans to switch.
A fool and his money are good for business.
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
Vanguard holds most of my funds/etfs. I can't see moving from Vanguard.
Since I heard many good things about Fidelity's website and service, I signed up for an account. I wanted the ability to buy fixed income products from Fidelity. Fidelity does have first class service and a great website!
I also got the 2% Visa card.
Vanguard also has great service and a great website. I'd give Fidelity an A+ and Vanguard an A in both categories.
The Fidelity Visa card does have a drawback for those who pay their balance as soon as the end of the month bill shows on the website. When you make an online payment, you can sign up for an email notice, but the payment does not show up anywhere online. If one pays on Friday night, the payment may not show up until Monday night. Those who are hyper and have short memories can pay the balance twice. All other credit card companies that I deal with show payments immediately under "pending transactions". I learned all of this the hard way.
Since I heard many good things about Fidelity's website and service, I signed up for an account. I wanted the ability to buy fixed income products from Fidelity. Fidelity does have first class service and a great website!
I also got the 2% Visa card.
Vanguard also has great service and a great website. I'd give Fidelity an A+ and Vanguard an A in both categories.
The Fidelity Visa card does have a drawback for those who pay their balance as soon as the end of the month bill shows on the website. When you make an online payment, you can sign up for an email notice, but the payment does not show up anywhere online. If one pays on Friday night, the payment may not show up until Monday night. Those who are hyper and have short memories can pay the balance twice. All other credit card companies that I deal with show payments immediately under "pending transactions". I learned all of this the hard way.
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sperry8 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:41 pm
Schwab is offering you a promo: https://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/nn ... eward.html
Bonus tiers:
$200 bonus for $50,000–$99,999 deposit
$300 bonus for $100,000–$249,999 deposit
$600 bonus for $250,000–$499,999 deposit
$1,200 bonus for $500,000–$999,999 deposit
$2,500 bonus for $1,000,000+ deposit
Just read the fine print on the offer. The "Bonus" is taxable and you will receive a 1099-INT. You must also maintain the bonused level of assets in the account for 12 months or they will take back the bonuse.
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
There are ways for them to make money. For example many of the discount brokers (i can't tell you which ones for sure) sell your orders to market makers which can front front your trades. Sure they might make a penny or two per share but if free trades gets you to trade more and depending on how many shares are in you buy/sell they could make quite a bit. This is essentially how robinhood makes moneys. I think its a fair trade. Ya your excecutions aren't nearly as good but for long term investors this isn't going to make much difference. For day traders it would. They also have a credit card, make a small amount of money off of your idle cash, and possibly other things depending on what services they offer.CrossOverGuy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:17 pmIs this going to be something of a "loss leader" the way supermarkets rotate what they have on sale each week? How are they going to make money? Are they going to try to add some sneaky fees elsewhere? One of the big things historically is that whether the market went up or down didn't necessarily matter in the long run to the financial institutions since they were going to get paid from everyone buying stocks whether they were buying in greed or selling in fear (or for other reasons, of course). How are they making their money? In mutual funds, there is the ER, which because of competition and popularity of Vanguard index funds and others is now now decreasing, as well as active funds since ER is more openly discussed (though other fees may not be).
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Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
Can I get 2.625% at Bank of America without putting 100K in assets at Merrill?
I‘m not going to open an account at Merrill. What’s the cash back in that case? Is it greater than 2%?
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
Please someone post a link to this card. I'm assuming no annual fee? Is it 2.625% on everything?ARoseByAnyOtherName wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:29 pmCan I get 2.625% at Bank of America without putting 100K in assets at Merrill?
I‘m not going to open an account at Merrill. What’s the cash back in that case? Is it greater than 2%?
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
Interesting, thank you!indexfundfan wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:05 pmAccording to feedback in the TDA thread, the short term trading fee has been eliminated.2commaBH wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:59 pmI am waiting to see what Fidelity does (someone else said Nov 1, I will likely not wait that long - if they don't cut by 10/15 I don't think they will). I have a few accounts at Fidelity, although the bulk of our assets are at VG. One of the accounts at Fidelity is my "play account", where I do a good bit of active trading. I would rather just leave it where it is, but I do enough trading in my "play account" that it's worth it to switch.
As far as where to move it, I used TDA in the past, but it seems they have fees on 30-day ETF buy/sells, which I don't love. Schwab didn't seem to have that cost so I may choose them, although I'll miss the better Fidelity MMF rates.
I'm hoping Fidelity just steps up to the plate, we'll see.
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
What if you only move tax-free accounts?557880yvi wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:35 pmsperry8 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:41 pm
Schwab is offering you a promo: https://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/nn ... eward.html
Bonus tiers:
$200 bonus for $50,000–$99,999 deposit
$300 bonus for $100,000–$249,999 deposit
$600 bonus for $250,000–$499,999 deposit
$1,200 bonus for $500,000–$999,999 deposit
$2,500 bonus for $1,000,000+ deposit
Just read the fine print on the offer. The "Bonus" is taxable and you will receive a 1099-INT. You must also maintain the bonused level of assets in the account for 12 months or they will take back the bonuse.
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
I love Fidelity, but they need to match this. They aren’t so different that I’m willing to pay more to stay. Schwab is basically the same. Higher rates on the sweep account don’t mean much to me bc I keep all cash invested or in FZEXX.
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This looks like a good overview of these Bank of America cards:ncage wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:39 pmPlease someone post a link to this card. I'm assuming no annual fee? Is it 2.625% on everything?ARoseByAnyOtherName wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:29 pmCan I get 2.625% at Bank of America without putting 100K in assets at Merrill?
I‘m not going to open an account at Merrill. What’s the cash back in that case? Is it greater than 2%?
https://thewirecutter.com/money/credit- ... ds-review/
$95 annual fee and $100K in assets at BoA/Merrill gets you 2.625% cash back.
Compare to the Fidelity 2% back (on everything) credit card. Assuming a spend of $3,000 a month on the credit card, straight 2% cash back will result in $720 a year / $60 a month cash back.
With this Bank of America credit card, the same $3,000 a month spend will give you $859 a year / $71.58 a month cash back (after annual fee).
Now the BoA credit card does give additional cash back on travel and dining, it seems, which I didn't count at all in the numbers above because those aren't regular or large spending categories for me.
All the numbers above can be adjusted to taste. Bottom line, for me it's not worth it to open an account with yet another brokerage for the small amount of extra $$$ that would result.
How about you?
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Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
The BofA Travel Rewards card has no annual fee and pays 2.625% on everything if you have $100k with BofA/Merrill. But the points are intended for travel expenses.ncage wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:39 pmPlease someone post a link to this card. I'm assuming no annual fee? Is it 2.625% on everything?ARoseByAnyOtherName wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:29 pmCan I get 2.625% at Bank of America without putting 100K in assets at Merrill?
I‘m not going to open an account at Merrill. What’s the cash back in that case? Is it greater than 2%?
https://www.bankofamerica.com/credit-ca ... dit-cards/
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Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
I don't see why not. From my limited experience, it does. If you find out, please let us know.sperry8 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:41 pmThanks! If Schwab counts in-kind fund transfers, then I'll be switching asap.DrCheese wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:34 pmSchwab is offering you a promo: https://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/nn ... eward.htmlsperry8 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:51 pmI would switch, but not just because. It would take a promo to get me to do so. I've heard some others claim they got offered a promo from Schwab to move funds to them. If they offered this to me (they have never offered me a promo) I'd switch. Otherwise staying where I am for now.Boilermaker10 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:21 pmJust curious how many Bogleheads are switching from fidelity to TD Ameritrade, Schwab, or ETrade with the dropping of commission fees?
I have accounts at vanguard and Fidelity, and was considering moving the Fidelity accounts to one of the companies that has dropped commissions. I have already asked Fidelity to match the free trades and they basically said not at this time.
Any advice on which one to move to or which to avoid?
Bonus tiers:
$200 bonus for $50,000–$99,999 deposit
$300 bonus for $100,000–$249,999 deposit
$600 bonus for $250,000–$499,999 deposit
$1,200 bonus for $500,000–$999,999 deposit
$2,500 bonus for $1,000,000+ deposit
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
ETrade and Schwab still charge a $25 fee to do partial outbound stock transfers. TD Ameritrade appears to be the best deal so far - since they still have a $0 partial transfer. I like to transfer ETFs/stocks to/from brokerages for Roth conversions and so this would be important to me. If Fidelity changed to $0 - then they would also be a great option.
Now, I think there will be some consequences of going to $0 commission for Fidelity. I suspect that Fidelity's "active traders" would lose some of the "free" benefits such as the free copy of Turbo Tax Premium every year. So - be careful for what you wish for!
Now, I think there will be some consequences of going to $0 commission for Fidelity. I suspect that Fidelity's "active traders" would lose some of the "free" benefits such as the free copy of Turbo Tax Premium every year. So - be careful for what you wish for!
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
I have no plan to transfer my money from Fidelity. I make so few trades in my Fidelity account that free trades has very little value to me. However, I am not putting any new money into Fidelity either. Fidelity used to offer American airline points if I transfer $50k or $100k which was nice. I can get some bonus in the order of $200 to $300 if I put new money into TDA. I hope that TDA will not terminate the bonus program after they started offering free trading.
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Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
I was a little surprised, not being an investor in brokerage stocks, by some of the facts that were highlighted in the reporting (like the Wall Street Journal) on the move by Schwab (followed by other Ameritrade et al). Commissions only represented 7% of Schwab's revenues. They have been a bigger deal for TD Ameritrade and E*TRADE (one quarter and one fifth of revenues, respectively), but there are clearly a lot of other revenue streams, such as lucrative margin interest spreads and payments for order flow, for the brokers. They really count on investor inertia when it comes to idle cash in sweep accounts that pay essentially nothing.

CrossOverGuy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:17 pmHow are they going to make money? Are they going to try to add some sneaky fees elsewhere? One of the big things historically is that whether the market went up or down didn't necessarily matter in the long run to the financial institutions since they were going to get paid from everyone buying stocks whether they were buying in greed or selling in fear (or for other reasons, of course). How are they making their money?
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Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
Schwab has $25 for partial ACAT out.danaht wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:03 amETrade and Schwab still charge a $25 fee to do partial outbound stock transfers. TD Ameritrade appears to be the best deal so far - since they still have a $0 partial transfer. I like to transfer ETFs/stocks to/from brokerages for Roth conversions and so this would be important to me.
Etrade's partial ACAT out fee is $0 if you leave at least $5000.
https://us.etrade.com/what-we-offer/pricing-and-rates
Merrill Edge and TDA are both $0 for partial ACAT out.
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Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
Has anyone gotten a retention bonus from Fidelity for not moving money to Schwab? I am tempted for get free money from Schwab.student wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:25 amI don't see why not. From my limited experience, it does. If you find out, please let us know.sperry8 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:41 pmThanks! If Schwab counts in-kind fund transfers, then I'll be switching asap.DrCheese wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:34 pmSchwab is offering you a promo: https://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/nn ... eward.htmlsperry8 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:51 pmI would switch, but not just because. It would take a promo to get me to do so. I've heard some others claim they got offered a promo from Schwab to move funds to them. If they offered this to me (they have never offered me a promo) I'd switch. Otherwise staying where I am for now.Boilermaker10 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:21 pmJust curious how many Bogleheads are switching from fidelity to TD Ameritrade, Schwab, or ETrade with the dropping of commission fees?
I have accounts at vanguard and Fidelity, and was considering moving the Fidelity accounts to one of the companies that has dropped commissions. I have already asked Fidelity to match the free trades and they basically said not at this time.
Any advice on which one to move to or which to avoid?
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Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
E*Trade has 110 Vanguard mutual funds with no transaction fees and no commissions. They also have Vanguard money market funds, offer cash management features and pay a cash bonus on new accounts, up to $2,500 on a $1 million transfer in. They also will have no commission on trades starting tomorrow.
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
galawdawg wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:32 amE*Trade has 110 Vanguard mutual funds with no transaction fees and no commissions. They also have Vanguard money market funds, offer cash management features and pay a cash bonus on new accounts, up to $2,500 on a $1 million transfer in. They also will have no commission on trades starting tomorrow.
Thanks! I'll give them a look.
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
One may or may not receive a 1099-INT form (I realize they say it - but there have been reports on certain offers that Schwab doesn't do it via FT). In any event $2,500 taxable or not is still worth the switch to me (assuming in-kind transfers are allowed). What do I care where my money sits? It got into Fido in the first place during the years when they offered airline miles to do so. If Schwab wants to pay me $2,500 to let it sit with them, I'm all for it and would struggle to understand why any buy and hold investor like most of us here wouldn't do the same. I plan to call them tomorrow to identify if in-kind is allowed to get the bonus. Once I have the answer I'll report back.557880yvi wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:35 pmsperry8 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:41 pm
Schwab is offering you a promo: https://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/nn ... eward.html
Bonus tiers:
$200 bonus for $50,000–$99,999 deposit
$300 bonus for $100,000–$249,999 deposit
$600 bonus for $250,000–$499,999 deposit
$1,200 bonus for $500,000–$999,999 deposit
$2,500 bonus for $1,000,000+ deposit
Just read the fine print on the offer. The "Bonus" is taxable and you will receive a 1099-INT. You must also maintain the bonused level of assets in the account for 12 months or they will take back the bonuse.
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Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
I'm sitting tight for now. I have 60 something free trades with Fidelity. I will wait until I've used all those or they've expired and then reassess. If I had no free trades credited, I would probably be looking into moving. I have a TD Ameritrade account and I like it.
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
Thanks for the suggestion. It's interesting that they have so many Vanguard funds available (116) and that most of them (110) are NTF. Unfortunately, they don't have VEGBX/Vanguard Emerging Market Bond Admiral or VOHIX/Vanguard Ohio Long-Term Tax Exempt available for sale at all. And there are no equivalent ETFs available for those funds, or anything close.galawdawg wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:32 amE*Trade has 110 Vanguard mutual funds with no transaction fees and no commissions. They also have Vanguard money market funds, offer cash management features and pay a cash bonus on new accounts, up to $2,500 on a $1 million transfer in. They also will have no commission on trades starting tomorrow.
Those two funds are likely to keep us at Vanguard.
As for the original question, I am not going to move my HSA from Fidelity, at least not as long as my 401(k) is also at Fidelity. It's just too easy to have them share a login. I also only have one position in my HSA anyway since it's a small account (~$50K), and it's easy enough to find one attractive fund at Fidelity. (I use FPADX/Fidelity Emerging Markets Index Fund at 7.5 bp.)
The alternative to the Fidelity HSA would be Lively+TD Ameritrade. I had my HSA there before I moved it to Fidelity when Fidelity initially offered their no-fee HSA. (Lively eventually matched Fidelity and dropped their $2.50/month fee, but I had already moved the account.)
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
I likely will move some assets to Schwab. My SIMPLE is already there.
I will leave enough at Fido to stay a premium client though.
I will leave enough at Fido to stay a premium client though.
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
Fidelity is more akin to Schwab than it is to TD Ameritrade and Etrade, making most of their money through means other than commissions. It doesn't affect them much, but I'm assuming people with smaller and less complicated portfolios will have a mass exodus to Schwab which offers similar service but with $0 commission fees.
And then there is the RH group, ones who only joined it for free commissions but fed up talking to a robot with little to no customer service. Many of them will leave RH for one of the others now.
And then there is the RH group, ones who only joined it for free commissions but fed up talking to a robot with little to no customer service. Many of them will leave RH for one of the others now.
Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
+1cheesepep wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:22 pmFidelity is more akin to Schwab than it is to TD Ameritrade and Etrade, making most of their money through means other than commissions. It doesn't affect them much, but I'm assuming people with smaller and less complicated portfolios will have a mass exodus to Schwab which offers similar service but with $0 commission fees.
I am moving part of my assets from Merrill Edge to Schwab.
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Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
Happy with Fidelity. Website and customer service meet my needs. Most of my money is in zero or low cost index funds, some low cost managed funds, and CDs / bonds. Very few individual stocks. I'm in their Private Client group, and expect if i wanted 50 free trades, they'd give them to me.
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Re: How many are switching from Fidelity?
I recently switched TO Fidelity. They gave me free trades and I think they will give them to most anyone who asks, especially if you mention wanting to leave. That said, I have used a single free trade since moving over.