Is there any active forums/BBS grouping up non-Bogleheads?

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Is there any active forums/BBS grouping up non-Bogleheads?

Post by bo105954027 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:32 pm

My road of gaining personal finance knowledge is straightforward:

Student Period (Zero PF knowledge, loaded with debts) -
Graduated Year 0-2 (Started paying down debts, read Dave Ramsey) -
Year 2-3 (Cleaned debt, read Rich Dad Poor Dad, The Millionaire Next Door) -
Year 3-now (Started investing, read The Bogleheads' Guide to Investing, settled in this forum)

I learnt and practiced Boglehead philosophy from day one. It's no doubt this is a proven successful way of investment. But I'm curious about what outside world is like. What is the percentage of non-Bogleheads over all middle class investors? What are they discussing every day? How do they conduct investing activities in their ways?
Time in market beats timing the market.

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Post by livesoft » Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:44 pm

reddit to your heart's content.
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Post by Dottie57 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:04 pm

livesoft wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:44 pm
reddit to your heart's content.
I think morningstar may have forums.

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Post by MotoTrojan » Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:08 pm

Very depressing forum post: viewtopic.php?t=148446

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Post by Artful Dodger » Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:53 pm

MotoTrojan wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:08 pm
Very depressing forum post: viewtopic.php?t=148446
Wow, that was depressing.. :( :(

I recall a few years ago, a poster who was just convinced Apple was going to tank. He had all his reasoning laid out, and was going to short them, or buy puts...with all his remaining money, which was already depleted from making a series of earlier bad moves. Not sure, but I think Apple's up 100-150% since then. Whew.

I first found Bogleheads through Morningstar, and they have a number of active forums. I used to read some of the Yahoo Finance forums. Don't know how active they are anymore.

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Post by lukestuckenhymer » Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:01 pm

livesoft wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:44 pm
reddit to your heart's content.
Browse the cryptocurrency subreddits for some entertaining/frightening reading.

Browse r/investing for people who think you should read Paul Merriman and allocate 100% small cap value.

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Post by MotoTrojan » Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:26 pm

Artful Dodger wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:53 pm
MotoTrojan wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:08 pm
Very depressing forum post: viewtopic.php?t=148446
Wow, that was depressing.. :( :(

I recall a few years ago, a poster who was just convinced Apple was going to tank. He had all his reasoning laid out, and was going to short them, or buy puts...with all his remaining money, which was already depleted from making a series of earlier bad moves. Not sure, but I think Apple's up 100-150% since then. Whew.

I first found Bogleheads through Morningstar, and they have a number of active forums. I used to read some of the Yahoo Finance forums. Don't know how active they are anymore.
Yeah, a must-read in my opinion for anyone that wants to put more than they are willing to lose into individual stocks.

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Post by staythecourse » Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:36 pm

lukestuckenhymer wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:01 pm
Browse r/investing for people who think you should read Paul Merriman and allocate 100% small cap value.
Is that a terrible thing? If one passively invests all their money into a small cap value index fund with low fees do you really think their investment plan would blow up in their face? My answer would be no. Even if you put all your money in REITS or EM the answer is likely not no. It isn't like you would be broke. You wouldn't be as efficient or rich as you could be (that is unless that specific asset class shoots the lights out during your investment horizon), but you wouldn't be make a gigantic bet that would lead to the poor house. Remember SCV does have exposure to beta as well just like TSM.

Good luck.
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Post by Whakamole » Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:01 pm

I used to be on Fund Alarm, which in the old days provided amusing anecdotes about the world of active mutual funds. The successor site seems to be about the latest hot active funds.

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Post by Earl Lemongrab » Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:32 pm

lukestuckenhymer wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:01 pm
Browse r/investing for people who think you should read Paul Merriman and allocate 100% small cap value.
How would anyone get that idea from reading Merriman? His portfolios are traditional slicers with a number of allocations.
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Post by greg24 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:36 pm

The Boglehead mindset (low costs, LBYM, etc.) might be common in roughly 1% of investors.

Basically everything else about investing on the internet is non-Bogleheads. Shouldn't be hard to find.

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Post by Case59 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:07 pm

The one real alternative I've seen online are the dividend investor/Seeking Alpha people. There are endless threads on our forum arguing about such dividend strategies. I don't adhere to the idea and I don't mean to poke the bear by raising it, just noting that it is a not-insane strategy with lots of followers.
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Post by Jack FFR1846 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:11 pm

r/wallstreetbets
Bogle: Smart Beta is stupid

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Post by NoRegret » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:40 pm

Jack FFR1846 wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:11 pm
r/wallstreetbets
:oops: wsb can indeed be highly entertaining /s

On Reddit
r/investing, r/options, r/securityanalysis, r/fatfire, r/financialindependence, r/personalfinance

General investing and PF:
http://www.early-retirement.org/
https://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/
https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/
https://socialize.morningstar.com/NewSo ... fault.aspx

https://www.gyroscopicinvesting.com/forum/ (permanent portfolio)
http://dividendgrowthforum.com/ (dividend growth)
http://www.cornerofberkshireandfairfax. ... /index.php (value investing)

Trading, quant
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/
https://forum.wilmott.com/

For most of the general stuff BH is the best.

I would also recommend Twitter if you follow the right people.

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Post by Hockey10 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:40 pm

Case59 wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:07 pm
The one real alternative I've seen online are the dividend investor/Seeking Alpha people. There are endless threads on our forum arguing about such dividend strategies. I don't adhere to the idea and I don't mean to poke the bear by raising it, just noting that it is a not-insane strategy with lots of followers.
There are several very good authors on Seeking Alpha (Chuck Carnevale comes to mind), but there are others that I would not give the time of day to.

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Post by bo105954027 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:44 pm

NoRegret wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:40 pm
Jack FFR1846 wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:11 pm
r/wallstreetbets
:oops: wsb can indeed be highly entertaining /s

On Reddit
r/investing, r/options, r/securityanalysis, r/fatfire, r/financialindependence, r/personalfinance

General investing and PF:
http://www.early-retirement.org/
https://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/
https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/
https://socialize.morningstar.com/NewSo ... fault.aspx

https://www.gyroscopicinvesting.com/forum/ (permanent portfolio)
http://dividendgrowthforum.com/ (dividend growth)
http://www.cornerofberkshireandfairfax. ... /index.php (value investing)

Trading, quant
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/
https://forum.wilmott.com/

For most of the general stuff BH is the best.

I would also recommend Twitter if you follow the right people.

NR

Thanks, NoRegret~

I don't know much about these websites, but I am pretty sure r/personalfinance is generally following Bogleheads method. That's why I reckon people bearing Bogleheads-like mind occupy a significant share of entire mid-class investor group.
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Post by Shamb3 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:55 am

greg24 wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:36 pm
The Boglehead mindset (low costs, LBYM, etc.) might be common in roughly 1% of investors.

Basically everything else about investing on the internet is non-Bogleheads. Shouldn't be hard to find.
Sadly most people barely understand compound interest gains on stocks.
They wouldn't fear declines in the early / mid accumulation phase if they did.

Even fewer understand how that also applies (in the opposite direction) to small sounding fees (1-2%).

Once understood, high fee investing sounds like a terrible plan.

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Post by jharkin » Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:23 am

bo105954027 wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:32 pm
What is the percentage of non-Bogleheads over all middle class investors?
Probably 95% +

bo105954027 wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:32 pm
What are they discussing every day?
Professional sports. television and movies. the latest Starbucks latte flavor. The 47 different after school programs they bus their kids to every week.
bo105954027 wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:32 pm
How do they conduct investing activities in their ways?
Often they don't, beyond whatever their employer auto enrolled them in. Then the file for social security the very first day they are eligible @ age 62 and wonder why life is so hard....

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