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I hope you answered your question.
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https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=79939&start=400#p5275418
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I don’t think “no strategy” is a strategy.Robot Monster wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:07 amMy IPS says "follow your dreams." I keep it simple, yo.
I think it is times like Feb-May
And maybe even now where having a defined strategy is necessary to keep oneself from making emotional mistakes.
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That is a personal decision.
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I am guided by the philosophy of Zen master Chou-shen Smith. The (often missing) link between “strategy” (put between parentheses because volatility equals strength) are understood by those who set forth down a narrow path belonging to one of three systems of mind:EnjoyIt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:13 pmI don’t think “no strategy” is a strategy.Robot Monster wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:07 amMy IPS says "follow your dreams." I keep it simple, yo.
1. Benevolence towards the weaker aspects of one's portfolio.
2. The wider ranges that are achieved by smaller variables.
3. What I refer to, in my mind as, "happy time" demographics.
The daily route one must use to maintain such a system consisting of a series of small adjustments, from the very top (high level forces) to the bottom of one's feet (assuming no socks.) So, if you go through the strategic process at all levels, you end up vertically and horizontally, on the bed or sofa, enjoying a bag of Doritos.
Namaste, bro.
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I read this 2 times and still don't know what it means. Was that "Bodhi" dude in Point Break based on you by chance?Robot Monster wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:35 pmI am guided by the philosophy of Zen master Chou-shen Smith. The (often missing) link between “strategy” (put between parentheses because volatility equals strength) are understood by those who set forth down a narrow path belonging to one of three systems of mind:EnjoyIt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:13 pmI don’t think “no strategy” is a strategy.Robot Monster wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:07 amMy IPS says "follow your dreams." I keep it simple, yo.
1. Benevolence towards the weaker aspects of one's portfolio.
2. The wider ranges that are achieved by smaller variables.
3. What I refer to, in my mind as, "happy time" demographics.
The daily route one must use to maintain such a system consisting of a series of small adjustments, from the very top (high level forces) to the bottom of one's feet (assuming no socks.) So, if you go through the strategic process at all levels, you end up vertically and horizontally, on the bed or sofa, enjoying a bag of Doritos.
Namaste, bro.

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Just rolled the dice and bought 50 shares of QQQ at 285 and change. Hoping for a snapback rally tomorrow.
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Namaste, bromrspock wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:10 pmI read this 2 times and still don't know what it means. Was that "Bodhi" dude in Point Break based on you by chance?Robot Monster wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:35 pmI am guided by the philosophy of Zen master Chou-shen Smith. The (often missing) link between “strategy” (put between parentheses because volatility equals strength) are understood by those who set forth down a narrow path belonging to one of three systems of mind:
1. Benevolence towards the weaker aspects of one's portfolio.
2. The wider ranges that are achieved by smaller variables.
3. What I refer to, in my mind as, "happy time" demographics.
The daily route one must use to maintain such a system consisting of a series of small adjustments, from the very top (high level forces) to the bottom of one's feet (assuming no socks.) So, if you go through the strategic process at all levels, you end up vertically and horizontally, on the bed or sofa, enjoying a bag of Doritos.
Namaste, bro.![]()

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Meaning is overrated. The Talking Heads said it best: stop making sense. It's the basis of surrealist thought, that the rational mind is corrupted and we need to dig down into the unconscious well of our being to achieve liberation.mrspock wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:10 pmI read this 2 times and still don't know what it means. Was that "Bodhi" dude in Point Break based on you by chance?Robot Monster wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:35 pmI am guided by the philosophy of Zen master Chou-shen Smith. The (often missing) link between “strategy” (put between parentheses because volatility equals strength) are understood by those who set forth down a narrow path belonging to one of three systems of mind:
1. Benevolence towards the weaker aspects of one's portfolio.
2. The wider ranges that are achieved by smaller variables.
3. What I refer to, in my mind as, "happy time" demographics.
The daily route one must use to maintain such a system consisting of a series of small adjustments, from the very top (high level forces) to the bottom of one's feet (assuming no socks.) So, if you go through the strategic process at all levels, you end up vertically and horizontally, on the bed or sofa, enjoying a bag of Doritos.
Namaste, bro.![]()
I don't remember Point Break, but tomorrow the new Charlie Kaufman is dropping on Netflix, and that's all I can think about.
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It better start soon and be really steep.....

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The most risk-on asset, regional banks KRE is green today, on a 20% VIX spike and long term treasuries rallying with America's favorite index QQQ down 5.7%. The Fed has created a TBTF casino and you wonder why we can't create economic growth?
They should have nipped this options meltup in the butt weeks ago with forward guidance, but no. Stocks going parabolic is apparently price stability for them. But early today ON A 3% DROP they roll out Fedspeak dropping additional QE bombs. They are officially losing control off this now that everyone knows the stock market is literally a buy the dip meme market.
They should have nipped this options meltup in the butt weeks ago with forward guidance, but no. Stocks going parabolic is apparently price stability for them. But early today ON A 3% DROP they roll out Fedspeak dropping additional QE bombs. They are officially losing control off this now that everyone knows the stock market is literally a buy the dip meme market.
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Melting down
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Really rallied into close today!
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I think people are there most true selves during sharp pullbacks.
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Apparently my true self doesn't react.
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Im up just not as much as before..so all is well
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Only a flesh wound. Last months climb was so much fun. Now we get to do it again!
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I’m already in, but I wish I had put more in “back then”. Looks like we’ll get a second chance. A flash crash is always great for the FOMO crowd.
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While I realize that the idea of parallel universes remain "highly controversial," please be aware that the melt-up may have occurred somewhere else within the multiverse. Is it very likely Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Google, and Facebook tanked in all dimensions? Seems improbable. Reality is merely a mathematical structure, according to physicist Max Tegmark. "Is all that we see or seem, but a dream within a dream?"jason2459 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:28 pmMelting down
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Agreed! Give a little back then let's go again!gonefishing01 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:11 pm Only a flesh wound. Last months climb was so much fun. Now we get to do it again!
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The Black Knight ALWAYS TRIUMPHS!TechGuy365 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:31 pmAgreed! Give a little back then let's go again!gonefishing01 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:11 pm Only a flesh wound. Last months climb was so much fun. Now we get to do it again!
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It's all an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.Robot Monster wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:29 pmWhile I realize that the idea of parallel universes remain "highly controversial," please be aware that the melt-up may have occurred somewhere else within the multiverse. Is it very likely Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Google, and Facebook tanked in all dimensions? Seems improbable. Reality is merely a mathematical structure, according to physicist Max Tegmark. "Is all that we see or seem, but a dream within a dream?"jason2459 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:28 pmMelting down
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Can anyone recommend a cheap ETF to diversify across universes?
70/30 portfolio | Equity: global market weight | Bonds: 20% long-term munis - 10% LEMB
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I hear FRSCAPE, SGC or FEDERATIONVOO are all good choices.

buy. hold. repeat.
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Payroll increase and unemployment tumbling. Let's see what happens.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/04/jobs-re ... 2020-.html
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The Chief Fixed Income Strategist at Schwab said the consensus expectations "seem[ed] optimistic to me," yet the actual numbers mightily beat those expectations.lostdog wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:05 am Payroll increase and unemployment tumbling. Let's see what happens.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/04/jobs-re ... 2020-.html
https://us.econoday.com/byshoweventfull ... ek.asp#top
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As soon as you get settled into that portfolio someone will start complaining about being too heavy in your own reality and need to be "diversified" across the Multiverse. Yes, there are more parallel realities that end in catastrophic failures then those that succeed, but some are exponentially more successful, and there's a "diversification benefit" since they're not all correlated. People who don't invest outside their own timeline are clearly doing it for Chronophobic reasons, and any hand-waving about risks, tax considerations, and costs should be dismissed.
"To achieve satisfactory investment results is easier than most people realize; to achieve superior results is harder than it looks." - Benjamin Graham
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The mean of calculating unemployment changed, so comparing this to previous numbers is a bit misleading. As far as I can tell, most agree the change is for the good, but you aren't comparing apples to apples between last week and this week.lostdog wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:05 am Payroll increase and unemployment tumbling. Let's see what happens.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/04/jobs-re ... 2020-.html
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JoMoney wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:16 amAs soon as you get settled into that portfolio someone will start complaining about being too heavy in your own reality and need to be "diversified" across the Multiverse. Yes, there are more parallel realities that end in catastrophic failures then those that succeed, but some are exponentially more successful, and there's a "diversification benefit" since they're not all correlated. People who don't invest outside their own timeline are clearly doing it for Chronophobic reasons, and any hand-waving about risks, tax considerations, and costs should be dismissed.
Touche!

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Talk about home-universe bias.JoMoney wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:16 amAs soon as you get settled into that portfolio someone will start complaining about being too heavy in your own reality and need to be "diversified" across the Multiverse. Yes, there are more parallel realities that end in catastrophic failures then those that succeed, but some are exponentially more successful, and there's a "diversification benefit" since they're not all correlated. People who don't invest outside their own timeline are clearly doing it for Chronophobic reasons, and any hand-waving about risks, tax considerations, and costs should be dismissed.
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No point investing in Mars etc, data between arbitrarily-picked dates shows that small-planet-value is where it's at.... Now, back to the real world and I hope this thread is the place to be today, because yesterday in the other one was a bit unnerving....
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Market is up but value is outperforming again. I think I may be in the wrong multiverse, and I’m not leaving!occambogle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:31 amNo point investing in Mars etc, data between arbitrarily-picked dates shows that small-planet-value is where it's at.... Now, back to the real world and I hope this thread is the place to be today, because yesterday in the other one was a bit unnerving....
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I think it will be, at least for today. Over in that 'other' thread I had posted:occambogle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:31 amNo point investing in Mars etc, data between arbitrarily-picked dates shows that small-planet-value is where it's at.... Now, back to the real world and I hope this thread is the place to be today, because yesterday in the other one was a bit unnerving....
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When you are young you should overweigh other realities to diversify away from your human capital, which correlates more strongly with your own reality. When you get older and deplete your human capital you should overweigh your own reality because your spending needs in retirement correlate more strongly with your own reality and taking on the uncompensated quantum currency risk is less attractive.JoMoney wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:16 amAs soon as you get settled into that portfolio someone will start complaining about being too heavy in your own reality and need to be "diversified" across the Multiverse. Yes, there are more parallel realities that end in catastrophic failures then those that succeed, but some are exponentially more successful, and there's a "diversification benefit" since they're not all correlated. People who don't invest outside their own timeline are clearly doing it for Chronophobic reasons, and any hand-waving about risks, tax considerations, and costs should be dismissed.
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So far today IYT is the All Star on my team.
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Looks like the bears
are coming back to fight.
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It’s all good. Just backed up my truck into SCHB. If we go lower next week I’ll TLH it on over to VTI. 

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Nevermind lol.MotoTrojan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:22 amLOL. You tilted to SCV, then capitulated because it underperformed. Now that QQQ is on fire (for quite a while I would say) you want to jump on?
SCV at-least has rational reasons to outperform long-term. This seems like a terrible decision.
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Taking a beating these last 2 days. Any bears out there buying or are you waiting for a bigger decline?
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I've bought, I've sold, I've laughed and I've danced so far today. LEMOI.McGilicutty wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:42 am Taking a beating these last 2 days. Any bears out there buying or are you waiting for a bigger decline?
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Here comes the OLED TV .
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Starting to see green shoots in the portfolio.
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Of all things most-likely-undeserving.... Tesla just went slightly green for the day. Huh?
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Up or down the close today will be very interesting to watch. I may need popcorn.
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Moved into the green for the day (after a buy when s&p was down 3%). Melt it up and bring on the long weekend!
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Can you list the outlook vs actual numbers you’re looking at? I don’t see the actuals mightily beating expectations. I see the recovery slowing. Also, there was a seasonal adjustment that’s now being added, which doesn’t change the big picture massive unemployment situation, but makes it hard to compare to last month unless you use the unchanged numbers?Robot Monster wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:16 amThe Chief Fixed Income Strategist at Schwab said the consensus expectations "seem[ed] optimistic to me," yet the actual numbers mightily beat those expectations.lostdog wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:05 am Payroll increase and unemployment tumbling. Let's see what happens.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/04/jobs-re ... 2020-.html
https://us.econoday.com/byshoweventfull ... ek.asp#top
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I'm retired and did not rebalance in March. Did that yesterday, in both 401k and taxable. Did my first ever "stop limit" with some play money in Apple! I'm 60, and that was funTheTimeLord wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:47 amI've bought, I've sold, I've laughed and I've danced so far today. LEMOI.McGilicutty wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:42 am Taking a beating these last 2 days. Any bears out there buying or are you waiting for a bigger decline?

I bought Apple at $110 this morning while sleeping. Pretty interesting for a girl who remembers a world without computers or cell phones...
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The consensus unemployment rate was 9.8%, the actual 8.4%, outside even the consensus range of 8.5-10.4%. Info from this link,finite_difference wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:34 pmCan you list the outlook vs actual numbers you’re looking at? I don’t see the actuals mightily beating expectations. I see the recovery slowing. Also, there was a seasonal adjustment that’s now being added, which doesn’t change the big picture massive unemployment situation, but makes it hard to compare to last month unless you use the unchanged numbers?Robot Monster wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:16 amThe Chief Fixed Income Strategist at Schwab said the consensus expectations "seem[ed] optimistic to me," yet the actual numbers mightily beat those expectations.lostdog wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:05 am Payroll increase and unemployment tumbling. Let's see what happens.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/04/jobs-re ... 2020-.html
https://us.econoday.com/byshoweventfull ... ek.asp#top
https://us.econoday.com/byshoweventfull ... ek.asp#top
That said,
"August jobs report may appear rosy, but most job cuts have yet to hit, economists warn"
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/econom ... e-n1239323
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