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Post by HawkeyePierce » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:00 am

columbia wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:46 am
HawkeyePierce wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:38 am
A glitch in the matrix.
It was like the first week of Klinger trying to fill out the daily reports
:P

To be fair we'd all be better off if we applied Klinger's paperwork methodology to the financial news.

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Post by J G Bankerton » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:13 am

TaxingAccount wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:14 am
The yield on the 3 month T-bill spiked up to 3.5% at 2am what is going on?
CNBC was talking about a 3X leveraged fund.
US bonds and stocks are the best house in a decaying neighborhood. The world is dumping money into US stocks and bonds.
abuss368 wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:40 pm
bck63 wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:12 pm
J G Bankerton wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:37 am
Oh fudge, today was pay day and the market soars. :(
I hate that.
I agree and I know that overtime it is meaningless. But when investing on a day the market is down one can’t help but smile and feel better as things are cheaper!
Oh fudge VTI is going to be more expensive today. If I go all in I'll get whipsawed by a tweet.

Can I copyright "tweet timing"?

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Post by Bluce » Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:45 am

Well the markets are up about a half a percent as I type.

Dang, I'm getting tired of this thread. I wonder when we can get back to the "Free fall" thread again? :confused

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Post by Elena » Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:50 am

Bluce wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:45 am
Well the markets are up about a half a percent as I type.

Dang, I'm getting tired of this thread. I wonder when we can get back to the "Free fall" thread again? :confused
Agreed! The only two allowed non-actionable threads. Sssshhhh!!!

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Post by AnalogKid22 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:51 am

Bluce wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:45 am
Well the markets are up about a half a percent as I type.

Dang, I'm getting tired of this thread. I wonder when we can get back to the "Free fall" thread again? :confused
The bull needed a break, but it's running again.

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Post by Bluce » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:03 am

TaxingAccount wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:50 am
Bluce wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:45 am
Well the markets are up about a half a percent as I type.

Dang, I'm getting tired of this thread. I wonder when we can get back to the "Free fall" thread again? :confused
bond market isn't buying this pump and dump. could not hold 40 level again, sell the resistance it will drop
I have a "set and forget" 35/65 portfolio. :shock:

I'm just a daily market spectator that likes to make dumb comments. :mrgreen:

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Post by abuss368 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:10 am

J G Bankerton wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:13 am
TaxingAccount wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:14 am
The yield on the 3 month T-bill spiked up to 3.5% at 2am what is going on?
CNBC was talking about a 3X leveraged fund.
US bonds and stocks are the best house in a decaying neighborhood. The world is dumping money into US stocks and bonds.
abuss368 wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:40 pm
bck63 wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:12 pm
J G Bankerton wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:37 am
Oh fudge, today was pay day and the market soars. :(
I hate that.
I agree and I know that overtime it is meaningless. But when investing on a day the market is down one can’t help but smile and feel better as things are cheaper!
Oh fudge VTI is going to be more expensive today. If I go all in I'll get whipsawed by a tweet.

Can I copyright "tweet timing"?
Too much!
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Post by Stinky » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:53 am

Bluce wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:45 am
Well the markets are up about a half a percent as I type.

Dang, I'm getting tired of this thread. I wonder when we can get back to the "Free fall" thread again? :confused
Stocks are about back to where they closed yesterday. So, they’ve fallen a half percent since your post.

Free fall!
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Post by Bluce » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:25 pm

Stinky wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:53 am
Bluce wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:45 am
Well the markets are up about a half a percent as I type.

Dang, I'm getting tired of this thread. I wonder when we can get back to the "Free fall" thread again? :confused
Stocks are about back to where they closed yesterday. So, they’ve fallen a half percent since your post.

Free fall!
Hey Stinky, how are things? :sharebeer

Well the market closed pretty much flat for the day. Is there a thread for that? :confused

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Post by Bluce » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:14 pm

My portfolio all-time high was on July 24 . . . until today when it went a bit above that.

So, that's okay. :shock:

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Post by LadyGeek » Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:43 am

I removed a number of off-topic posts regarding use of certain 2-letter acronyms not related to investing. The discussion was getting derailed.
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Post by JoMoney » Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:12 am

abuss368 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:10 am
J G Bankerton wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:13 am
TaxingAccount wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:14 am
The yield on the 3 month T-bill spiked up to 3.5% at 2am what is going on?
CNBC was talking about a 3X leveraged fund.
US bonds and stocks are the best house in a decaying neighborhood. The world is dumping money into US stocks and bonds.
abuss368 wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:40 pm
bck63 wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:12 pm
J G Bankerton wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:37 am
Oh fudge, today was pay day and the market soars. :(
I hate that.
I agree and I know that overtime it is meaningless. But when investing on a day the market is down one can’t help but smile and feel better as things are cheaper!
Oh fudge VTI is going to be more expensive today. If I go all in I'll get whipsawed by a tweet.

Can I copyright "tweet timing"?
Too much!
NPR's "Planet Money" built an automated trading 'Bot that would trade based on Tweets, they called it BOTUS
https://www.npr.org/2017/04/14/52389075 ... mps-tweets
https://twitter.com/botus

It was not a success, for a variety of reasons, but largely the "tweet timing" seemed to be outside of market trading hours.
https://medium.com/the-billfold/planet- ... 6d281c2b31
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Post by JoMoney » Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:15 am

Bluce wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:25 pm
.... Well the market closed pretty much flat for the day. Is there a thread for that? :confused
Probably somewhere, but trading the VIX or "Iron Condors" in the options market aren't Boglehead's forte
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Post by Stinky » Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:17 am

JoMoney wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:12 am

NPR's "Planet Money" built an automated trading 'Bot that would trade based on Tweets, they called it BOTUS
https://www.npr.org/2017/04/14/52389075 ... mps-tweets
https://twitter.com/botus

It was not a success, for a variety of reasons, but largely the "tweet timing" seemed to be outside of market trading hours.
https://medium.com/the-billfold/planet- ... 6d281c2b31
I think that Planet Money is one of the best podcasts out there. It's both entertaining and thought-provoking (at least occasionally).

The Tweet Bot episode was good.
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Post by Stinky » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:15 am

It’s about time this thread got active again!
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Post by TaxingAccount » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:31 pm

Stinky wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:15 am
It’s about time this thread got active again!
Great day for gold accumulators.

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TaxingAccount wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:31 pm
Stinky wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:15 am
It’s about time this thread got active again!
Great day for gold accumulators.
Even with today's drop, it's been a good year for gold. It's outperformed the S&P 500.
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Post by sc9182 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:27 pm

willthrill81 wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:37 pm
TaxingAccount wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:31 pm
Stinky wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:15 am
It’s about time this thread got active again!
Great day for gold accumulators.
Even with today's drop, it's been a good year for gold. It's outperformed the S&P 500.
Did Gold net outperform S&P considering 28% precious metals tax ! Do I see gold’s 5 year performance is 23%, ie., averaging under 5% return per year !?

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Post by willthrill81 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:31 pm

sc9182 wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:27 pm
willthrill81 wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:37 pm
TaxingAccount wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:31 pm
Stinky wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:15 am
It’s about time this thread got active again!
Great day for gold accumulators.
Even with today's drop, it's been a good year for gold. It's outperformed the S&P 500.
Did Gold net outperform S&P considering 28% precious metals tax !
Taxes are a separate issue. However, the collectibles tax does not apply for withdrawals from tax-advantaged accounts. And in taxable accounts, if your marginal rate is lower than 28%, then you pay the lower marginal rate, not the 28% collectibles tax, which is just a cap.
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[quoted posts removed by admin LadyGeek]

Actually it is tax evasion, which is not legal. Tax avoidance, OTOH, is legal.

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Discussions of dishonest behavior or bypassing the law is totally unacceptable. A post suggesting that capital gains should not be reported to the IRS has been removed (tax evasion). A reply has also been removed.
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Post by Bluce » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:53 pm

My PF clipped another all-time high point today. It's the third record high since July 24. (No Beardstown Ladies math involved :shock: )

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Post by Stinky » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:02 pm

S&P closed above 3,000 today.

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Post by AnalogKid22 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:57 pm

Stinky wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:02 pm
S&P closed above 3,000 today.

Happy days are here again!
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Post by DaftInvestor » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:34 pm

Stinky wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:02 pm
S&P closed above 3,000 today.

Happy days are here again!
And yet higher again today - back to the high's! Perhaps a day to do some re-balancing...

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Post by Stinky » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:43 pm

DaftInvestor wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:34 pm
Stinky wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:02 pm
S&P closed above 3,000 today.

Happy days are here again!
And yet higher again today - back to the high's! Perhaps a day to do some re-balancing...
Yes, time to get this thread going again. S&P is now about 10 points off its all-time high.

I expect we'll see the inevitable "Is the market too high to invest now" questions. :moneybag
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Post by whodidntante » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:54 pm

J G Bankerton wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:13 am
Oh fudge VTI is going to be more expensive today. If I go all in I'll get whipsawed by a tweet.

Can I copyright "tweet timing"?
Find the nearest Google search box, and write "volfefe index" into it. I guess you could also use Bing if you're an anarchist.

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Post by Broken Man 1999 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:14 pm

Well, I finally exited Apple (AAPL), so I am happy that is done.

Only another $60,000 or so to exit my remaining individual stocks. Should be enough to finish this year's expenses and take a big bite out of next year's expenses as well.

This is my last rodeo for individual stocks. I have had a good run, but I am not willing to continue. I have been very lucky, and see NO reason to continue chancing a downturn.

Broken Man 1999,

ETA: Our portfolio is right at an all-time high, even with some remodel projects and 4 years+ withdrawing expenses. The market has been very, very good to DW and me.
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Post by FireHorse » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:12 pm

The stock market is going to touching the new high again, why are people still talking about recession?
Just don't make sense :annoyed

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Post by livesoft » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:14 pm

FireHorse wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:12 pm
The stock market is going to touching the new high again, why are people still talking about recession?
Just don't make sense :annoyed
When else would a recession happen? Isn't it a fact that every recession has happened after the stock market has reached a new high?
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livesoft wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:14 pm
FireHorse wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:12 pm
The stock market is going to touching the new high again, why are people still talking about recession?
Just don't make sense :annoyed
When else would a recession happen? Isn't it a fact that every recession has happened after the stock market has reached a new high?
I believe s/he means that many people are talking about a recession occurring in the near future and pointing out that that seems to be incongruent with stocks being at all time highs.
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Post by Rowan Oak » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:26 pm

willthrill81 wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:20 pm
livesoft wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:14 pm
FireHorse wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:12 pm
The stock market is going to touching the new high again, why are people still talking about recession?
Just don't make sense :annoyed
When else would a recession happen? Isn't it a fact that every recession has happened after the stock market has reached a new high?
I believe s/he means that many people are talking about a recession occurring in the near future and pointing out that that seems to be incongruent with stocks being at all time highs.
I'm trying to think of a time when people aren't talking about a recession occurring in the near future. Guess it depends on who "people" are.
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Post by sharx » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:27 pm

There's also more to a recession than just the stock market. The first signs of the "2008 financial crisis" were in April 2007.

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Post by willthrill81 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:34 pm

Rowan Oak wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:26 pm
willthrill81 wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:20 pm
livesoft wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:14 pm
FireHorse wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:12 pm
The stock market is going to touching the new high again, why are people still talking about recession?
Just don't make sense :annoyed
When else would a recession happen? Isn't it a fact that every recession has happened after the stock market has reached a new high?
I believe s/he means that many people are talking about a recession occurring in the near future and pointing out that that seems to be incongruent with stocks being at all time highs.
I'm trying to think of a time when people aren't talking about a recession occurring in the near future. Guess it depends on who "people" are.
Also, there have been 11 recessions since the Great Depression but only eight bear markets, and three of those bear markets did not accompany a recession.
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Post by Stinky » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:33 am

Futures are up again this morning nicely.

Is this the day for a new record close for the S&P 500?
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sharx wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:27 pm
There's also more to a recession than just the stock market. The first signs of the "2008 financial crisis" were in April 2007.
The problem is, the signs may be there, but whether they will have actual impact is unknown.

For example, there are signs of tension between the two largest economies in the world (US and China).

Scenario 1: US and China cease all trade (recession, negative growth.)
Scenario 2: Things go back to the way they were, or better (no recession, positive growth).
Scenario 3: It continues to muddle on (unknown, negative-neutral growth)
Scenario 4: Blindsided by something else that comes along.

The simplicity of the Boglehead approach let’s us profit from the uncertainty by keeping our heads bowed and investing regardless of conditions. Only if you’re trying to time the market (to beat the market) do you have to worry about everything that can happen. Not worth it.
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Post by finite_difference » Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:29 am

Stinky wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:33 am
Futures are up again this morning nicely.

Is this the day for a new record close for the S&P 500?
Where are you checking futures?
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finite_difference wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:29 am
Stinky wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:33 am
Futures are up again this morning nicely.

Is this the day for a new record close for the S&P 500?
Where are you checking futures?
Here’s the site. Seems to work well both in afternoon after market close and in the morning.

https://money.cnn.com/data/premarket/
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Post by willthrill81 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:01 am

I doubt that they'll reach a record high today, but perhaps next week.

As an accumulator, I'd fine if stocks just hung out in the doldrums for a while. :|
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Post by sharx » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:14 am

finite_difference wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:27 am
sharx wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:27 pm
There's also more to a recession than just the stock market. The first signs of the "2008 financial crisis" were in April 2007.
The problem is, the signs may be there, but whether they will have actual impact is unknown.

For example, there are signs of tension between the two largest economies in the world (US and China).

Scenario 1: US and China cease all trade (recession, negative growth.)
Scenario 2: Things go back to the way they were, or better (no recession, positive growth).
Scenario 3: It continues to muddle on (unknown, negative-neutral growth)
Scenario 4: Blindsided by something else that comes along.

The simplicity of the Boglehead approach let’s us profit from the uncertainty by keeping our heads bowed and investing regardless of conditions. Only if you’re trying to time the market (to beat the market) do you have to worry about everything that can happen. Not worth it.
Yeah I'm with you on that, but it goes both ways. Can't claim there's NOT a recession coming anymore than you can claim there is one coming.

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Post by abuss368 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:23 am

We are going to hit an all time high today and everyday after that!
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Post by AnalogKid22 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:54 am

sharx wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:14 am
finite_difference wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:27 am
sharx wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:27 pm
There's also more to a recession than just the stock market. The first signs of the "2008 financial crisis" were in April 2007.
The problem is, the signs may be there, but whether they will have actual impact is unknown.

For example, there are signs of tension between the two largest economies in the world (US and China).

Scenario 1: US and China cease all trade (recession, negative growth.)
Scenario 2: Things go back to the way they were, or better (no recession, positive growth).
Scenario 3: It continues to muddle on (unknown, negative-neutral growth)
Scenario 4: Blindsided by something else that comes along.

The simplicity of the Boglehead approach let’s us profit from the uncertainty by keeping our heads bowed and investing regardless of conditions. Only if you’re trying to time the market (to beat the market) do you have to worry about everything that can happen. Not worth it.
Yeah I'm with you on that, but it goes both ways. Can't claim there's NOT a recession coming anymore than you can claim there is one coming.
What about the Friday the 13th scenario?! :)

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Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

Post by Bluce » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:23 pm

AnalogKid22 wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:54 am
What about the Friday the 13th scenario?! :)
Yeah that really scared me, not to mention the double-whammy of the harvest moon tonight, so I sold everything this morning and bought gold bullion, batteries, milk, bread, and ammunition. :shock:

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Post by UberGrub » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:07 pm

Bluce wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:23 pm
AnalogKid22 wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:54 am
What about the Friday the 13th scenario?! :)
Yeah that really scared me, not to mention the double-whammy of the harvest moon tonight, so I sold everything this morning and bought gold bullion, batteries, milk, bread, and ammunition. :shock:
Based on the conversation earlier:
But was the bread international or only domestic? :mrgreen:

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Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

Post by stocknoob4111 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:32 pm

Any idea why VTSAX (Vanguard Total Market) fell 0.5% today while the S&P 500 fell only 0.07% and checking most of the mid caps funds were down 0.3% or so, small caps were slightly up. I was thinking an aggregate of all those asset classes would result in almost a flat outcome. Bonds were the only thing that fell sharply today, but VTSAX for some reason did as well.

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Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

Post by 305pelusa » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:39 pm

stocknoob4111 wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:32 pm
Any idea why VTSAX (Vanguard Total Market) fell 0.5% today while the S&P 500 fell only 0.07% and checking most of the mid caps funds were down 0.3% or so, small caps were slightly up. I was thinking an aggregate of all those asset classes would result in almost a flat outcome. Bonds were the only thing that fell sharply today, but VTSAX for some reason did as well.
I think because it went ex-dividend today.

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Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

Post by lostdog » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:44 pm

305pelusa wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:39 pm
stocknoob4111 wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:32 pm
Any idea why VTSAX (Vanguard Total Market) fell 0.5% today while the S&P 500 fell only 0.07% and checking most of the mid caps funds were down 0.3% or so, small caps were slightly up. I was thinking an aggregate of all those asset classes would result in almost a flat outcome. Bonds were the only thing that fell sharply today, but VTSAX for some reason did as well.
I think because it went ex-dividend today.
+1
VT, BNDW and chill.

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Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

Post by Snowbird » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:07 pm

305pelusa wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:39 pm
stocknoob4111 wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:32 pm
Any idea why VTSAX (Vanguard Total Market) fell 0.5% today while the S&P 500 fell only 0.07% and checking most of the mid caps funds were down 0.3% or so, small caps were slightly up. I was thinking an aggregate of all those asset classes would result in almost a flat outcome. Bonds were the only thing that fell sharply today, but VTSAX for some reason did as well.
I think because it went ex-dividend today.
Please excuse my ignorance but wouldn't that tend to make it be higher than the S&P instead of lower?

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