Can I create my own "fund" on Vanguard or Schwab so I don't have to individually purchase 10 different etfs every month?

[tvanzo]

Imagine this question has been asked many times, but couldn't find much. Seems like a pretty simple feature for them to implement. Each month I contribute to my portfolio (7 different etfs, at 10-20% weightings). It is time consuming to do this each month. I wish I can just contribute to one thing and set the weightings and it does it for me (market order or set limit order at .02% below market or something).

What is the solution to this basic issue?

EDIT: 6 funds, not 10. But point is the same.

Cheers

[WinstonTeracina]

One solution would be to switch to M1 finance: https://m1.com/

I am surprised the larger brokerages don’t seem to offer something similar.

[earflop]

This seems antithetical to the Bogleheads philosophy. Why so many funds?

I think maybe M1 Finance can do what you are looking for, although I don't have any personal experience with it.

[Blue456]

One solution would be to switch to M1 finance: https://m1.com/

I am surprised the larger brokerages don’t seem to offer something similar.

They want you to use their robot services.

[WinstonTeracina]

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[goblue100]

Imagine this question has been asked many times, but couldn't find much. Seems like a pretty simple feature for them to implement. Each month I contribute to my portfolio (7 different etfs, at 10-20% weightings). It is time consuming to do this each month. I wish I can just contribute to one thing and set the weightings and it does it for me (market order or set limit order at .02% below market or something).

What is the solution to this basic issue?

Cheers

Rotate between the 7 things and only purchase one thing each month.

[tvanzo]

One solution would be to switch to M1 finance: https://m1.com/

I am surprised the larger brokerages don’t seem to offer something similar.

They want you to use their robot services.

I think this is exactly why.

[tvanzo]

This seems antithetical to the Bogleheads philosophy. Why so many funds?

I think maybe M1 Finance can do what you are looking for, although I don't have any personal experience with it.

Is it really antithetical? I was wrong, actually only 6 funds now that I look at it. Either way I would rather not have to purchase 6 etfs every month manually. My split is:
VALUE EMERGING: Aves: 20%
S&P 600: IJR: 20%
SMALL CAP VALUE: AVUV: 15%
MID CAP: VO:20%
INT SMALL CAP VALUE: AVDV:15%
S&P 500: 10%

[Cheyenne]

You could set up a Schwab Intelligent Advisor and do something that.

[tvanzo]

You could set up a Schwab Intelligent Advisor and do something that.

Is that the robo service? IF so, this is not possible, I used the robo service before. You can't even select own funds. And it forces you to keep at least 7-10% cash (since they make money on your cash).

[burritoLover]

+1 on M1 finance. There's no fee. You can set up "pies" any way you want. So, let's say you want a 25% small value tilt. So, you could have a "market" pie at 75% and a "small value" pie (you name these) at 25%. Within the "small value" pie, you could have 50% AVUV, 50% AVDV or whatever. You can set up auto-contribute or you can manually move money in at any time and it will buy the securities (ETFs or individual stocks) that are underweight according to your allocation so it is dynamically rebalancing. It is pretty slick.

[aristotelian]

I would also recommend M1 Finance for this use case. Just be aware of a few things:

No support for Spec ID. They use an algorithm to sell shares with losses first. To control your losses/gains you need a separate account at Apex Clearing to view your cost basis data and then hope you sell the right amount.

They encourage you to use email for support and it can take a while.

$75 transfer out fee.

[tashnewbie]

Imagine this question has been asked many times, but couldn't find much. Seems like a pretty simple feature for them to implement. Each month I contribute to my portfolio (7 different etfs, at 10-20% weightings). It is time consuming to do this each month. I wish I can just contribute to one thing and set the weightings and it does it for me (market order or set limit order at .02% below market or something).

What is the solution to this basic issue?

Cheers

Rotate between the 7 things and only purchase one thing each month.

Seems like this would work. Is there enough change in the market that each holding is off by enough from your target every month (most people set rebalancing triggers of +/-5% or 20% of a holding)?

Otherwise, I think M1 would be an option. I have never used them so can't say whether it would be worth migrating.

[zie]

At Schwab, the best you can do, as far as I'm aware would be creating your own index: https://www.schwab.com/direct-indexing

It's probably not worth the hassle and expense.

Like others have said, M1 Finance can do it.

What I did, is just settle for a 1 fund portfolio, then life is very easy. For the curious: AOA is my 1 fund(80% global equities and 20% bonds)

[DaveTH]

I would also recommend M1 Finance for this use case. Just be aware of a few things:

No support for Spec ID. They use an algorithm to sell shares with losses first. To control your losses/gains you need a separate account at Apex Clearing to view your cost basis data and then hope you sell the right amount.

They encourage you to use email for support and it can take a while.

$75 transfer out fee.

The transfer out fees are actually $100 for Individual Brokerage and $200 for Roth IRA. They also don't distinguish between partial or full. Something to keep in mind.

[tvanzo]

Imagine this question has been asked many times, but couldn't find much. Seems like a pretty simple feature for them to implement. Each month I contribute to my portfolio (7 different etfs, at 10-20% weightings). It is time consuming to do this each month. I wish I can just contribute to one thing and set the weightings and it does it for me (market order or set limit order at .02% below market or something).

What is the solution to this basic issue?

Cheers

Rotate between the 7 things and only purchase one thing each month.

hmmm I guess this is the easiest simple solution. M1 seems like it can do exactly what I need, but I don't want the hassle of switching all my funds over. Obviously returns will vary doing it this way, but imagine the difference is minimal and could easily help me as it could hurt.

[Brianmcg321]

One total market index will get you the same results.

[delamer]

The idea of rotating your purchases among 1 or 2 funds per month is a good idea.

Especially if you are investing in a taxable account, because then your current system means you are creating new lots each month for each fund.

While tracking lots for taxes is easier now with than it was before online investing, I still wouldn’t want to create 12 new lots per fund every year.

[smooth_rough]

Too much churning for too little benefit.

[tvanzo]

Too much churning for too little benefit.

Can you explain this? Also I was wrong, it is 6 funds not 10. What do you suggest I do?

[tvanzo]

The idea of rotating your purchases among 1 or 2 funds per month is a good idea.

Especially if you are investing in a taxable account, because then your current system means you are creating new lots each month for each fund.

While tracking lots for taxes is easier now with than it was before online investing, I still wouldn’t want to create 12 new lots per fund every year.

I think I'll do that. But does that really make taxes for complicated? Doesn't the tax documents do the work for me/more purchases not any more complicated?

[tvanzo]

One total market index will get you the same results.

Can you explain? My portfolio is very different than a total market index. I am tilting towards small cap and value, which over the long term have outperformed the total market significantly.

[tvanzo]

At Schwab, the best you can do, as far as I'm aware would be creating your own index: https://www.schwab.com/direct-indexing

It's probably not worth the hassle and expense.

Like others have said, M1 Finance can do it.

What I did, is just settle for a 1 fund portfolio, then life is very easy. For the curious: AOA is my 1 fund(80% global equities and 20% bonds)

I am going for a strong Small cap tilt since I am young and small caps are very likely to outperform when your time horizone gets large (50 years). Also tilting towards value.

[delamer]

The idea of rotating your purchases among 1 or 2 funds per month is a good idea.

Especially if you are investing in a taxable account, because then your current system means you are creating new lots each month for each fund.

While tracking lots for taxes is easier now with than it was before online investing, I still wouldn’t want to create 12 new lots per fund every year.

I think I'll do that. But does that really make taxes for complicated? Doesn't the tax documents do the work for me/more purchases not any more complicated?

If you choose to sell part of a holding, there will be different options available as to which lots you want to sell. Some options are more simple than others. But simple might not be optimal in terms of minimizing your tax burden.

[tvanzo]

The idea of rotating your purchases among 1 or 2 funds per month is a good idea.

Especially if you are investing in a taxable account, because then your current system means you are creating new lots each month for each fund.

While tracking lots for taxes is easier now with than it was before online investing, I still wouldn’t want to create 12 new lots per fund every year.

I think I'll do that. But does that really make taxes for complicated? Doesn't the tax documents do the work for me/more purchases not any more complicated?

If you choose to sell part of a holding, there will be different options available as to which lots you want to sell. Some options are more simple than others. But simple might not be optimal in terms of minimizing your tax burden.

Oh that makes sense, thanks for explanation.

[zie]

At Schwab, the best you can do, as far as I'm aware would be creating your own index: https://www.schwab.com/direct-indexing

It's probably not worth the hassle and expense.

Like others have said, M1 Finance can do it.

What I did, is just settle for a 1 fund portfolio, then life is very easy. For the curious: AOA is my 1 fund(80% global equities and 20% bonds)

I am going for a strong Small cap tilt since I am young and small caps are very likely to outperform when your time horizone gets large (50 years). Also tilting towards value.

My comment wasn't to try and get you to shift to AOA, I apologize that you took it that way. You seem to have a strong belief in small cap outperformance, and as long as you hold it for the next 50 years, you might get proven right. Nobody really knows. Advantis has funds that are value oriented, you might be able to find a 1-fund option from them that's fairly cheap.

My time horizon is roughly the same as yours. I buy 1 fund for my convenience and laziness and so my heir(s) don't have to do anything but spend whatever AOA distributes every year. They are not investing nerds, and don't want to be. AOA holds small cap value in the fund for me, so I don't have to bother. You have a headache purchasing every month, you are creating a bunch of tax lots and you will eventually have a re-balance problem. I don't have any of those problems, as I let my fund, AOA do all that work for me. They are the experts in managing money, I'm not, nor do I want to become one. Let them earn their keep and make my life easier.

If you can find a 1 fund from Avantis that meets your needs: https://www.avantisinvestors.com/avanti ... rType=etfs you can join me in the lazy lane AVGE maybe? (I'm not an expert in their funds)

[riverant]

One total market index will get you the same results.

Can you explain? My portfolio is very different than a total market index. I am tilting towards small cap and value, which over the long term have outperformed the total market significantly.

Have you compared your portfolio against a more typical three fund portfolio in portfolio visualized? Even if you were convinced the risk/returns were better with your AA, I’m sure you could recreate by consolidating mainly within VTI and adding a small cap value tilt with a single ETF along with some international exposure in another fund.

[ruralavalon]

Imagine this question has been asked many times, but couldn't find much. Seems like a pretty simple feature for them to implement. Each month I contribute to my portfolio (7 different etfs, at 10-20% weightings). It is time consuming to do this each month. I wish I can just contribute to one thing and set the weightings and it does it for me (market order or set limit order at .02% below market or something).

What is the solution to this basic issue?

EDIT: 6 funds, not 10. But point is the same.

Cheers

If in tax-advantaged accounts switch to the regular mutual fund versions of the 6 exchange traded funds (ETFs). With regular mutual funds it's easy set up automatic investment of new contributions and also easy to set up automatic reinvestment of distributions.

Wiki article, ETFs vs mutual funds, trading mechanics. Mutual funds "are much more suitable for automatic investment of all kinds."

[yatesd]

You could set up a Schwab Intelligent Advisor and do something that.

Is that the robo service? IF so, this is not possible, I used the robo service before. You can't even select own funds. And it forces you to keep at least 7-10% cash (since they make money on your cash).

You have no cash/bond allocation so this is a reason to not choose Schwab Intelligent Portfolio. I just want to point out the 7-10% cash does pay Government money market rates (about 4% today) so is reasonably competitive based on risk for a cash/bond allocation.
https://www.schwab.com/legal/sip-sweep- ... rest-rates

[cchrissyy]

my family member at schwab just recently told me they had set this up with automated transfers from paycheck to various accounts and automatic purchasing of mutual funds. but it wasn't ETFs.

if you really prefer the ETFs you already use, then i would do it by manually buying only one or two of them each month. it does seem silly to insist on contributing to all 6 on the same dates. but by picking just one or two, it takes much less of your time and attention. plus you can either do it on a rigid schedule or as a natural chance to rebalance by purchasing whatever should be a higher %.

[tvanzo]

At Schwab, the best you can do, as far as I'm aware would be creating your own index: https://www.schwab.com/direct-indexing

It's probably not worth the hassle and expense.

Like others have said, M1 Finance can do it.

What I did, is just settle for a 1 fund portfolio, then life is very easy. For the curious: AOA is my 1 fund(80% global equities and 20% bonds)

I am going for a strong Small cap tilt since I am young and small caps are very likely to outperform when your time horizone gets large (50 years). Also tilting towards value.

My comment wasn't to try and get you to shift to AOA, I apologize that you took it that way. You seem to have a strong belief in small cap outperformance, and as long as you hold it for the next 50 years, you might get proven right. Nobody really knows. Advantis has funds that are value oriented, you might be able to find a 1-fund option from them that's fairly cheap.

My time horizon is roughly the same as yours. I buy 1 fund for my convenience and laziness and so my heir(s) don't have to do anything but spend whatever AOA distributes every year. They are not investing nerds, and don't want to be. AOA holds small cap value in the fund for me, so I don't have to bother. You have a headache purchasing every month, you are creating a bunch of tax lots and you will eventually have a re-balance problem. I don't have any of those problems, as I let my fund, AOA do all that work for me. They are the experts in managing money, I'm not, nor do I want to become one. Let them earn their keep and make my life easier.

If you can find a 1 fund from Avantis that meets your needs: https://www.avantisinvestors.com/avanti ... rType=etfs you can join me in the lazy lane AVGE maybe? (I'm not an expert in their funds)

MAke sense, unfortunately not a 1 portfolio solution if you want any specific tilts like SC. Well nothing is guaranteed, we know that over the past 100 years small caps are up ~5,000,000%, while large caps are up 800,000%. If small caps don't happened to outperform large caps in next 50 years, I think we can just chop that up as being incredibly unlucky.

[tvanzo]

You could set up a Schwab Intelligent Advisor and do something that.

Is that the robo service? IF so, this is not possible, I used the robo service before. You can't even select own funds. And it forces you to keep at least 7-10% cash (since they make money on your cash).

You have no cash/bond allocation so this is a reason to not choose Schwab Intelligent Portfolio. I just want to point out the 7-10% cash does pay Government money market rates (about 4% today) so is reasonably competitive based on risk for a cash/bond allocation.
https://www.schwab.com/legal/sip-sweep- ... rest-rates

Correct, but I am investing for decades, therefore I am confident that this will be a lag on my portfolio vs stock investments.

[tvanzo]

my family member at schwab just recently told me they had set this up with automated transfers from paycheck to various accounts and automatic purchasing of mutual funds. but it wasn't ETFs.

if you really prefer the ETFs you already use, then i would do it by manually buying only one or two of them each month. it does seem silly to insist on contributing to all 6 on the same dates. but by picking just one or two, it takes much less of your time and attention. plus you can either do it on a rigid schedule or as a natural chance to rebalance by purchasing whatever should be a higher %.

Great insight. Yeah I think I will go for the 1 a month strategy. I can hit each etf 2 times a year.

[tvanzo]

Imagine this question has been asked many times, but couldn't find much. Seems like a pretty simple feature for them to implement. Each month I contribute to my portfolio (7 different etfs, at 10-20% weightings). It is time consuming to do this each month. I wish I can just contribute to one thing and set the weightings and it does it for me (market order or set limit order at .02% below market or something).

What is the solution to this basic issue?

EDIT: 6 funds, not 10. But point is the same.

Cheers

If in tax-advantaged accounts switch to the regular mutual fund versions of the 6 exchange traded funds (ETFs). With regular mutual funds it's easy set up automatic investment of new contributions and also easy to set up automatic reinvestment of distributions.

Wiki article, ETFs vs mutual funds, trading mechanics. Mutual funds "are much more suitable for automatic investment of all kinds."

Hmm interesting, didn't know this. Thanks for insight.

[tvanzo]

One total market index will get you the same results.

Can you explain? My portfolio is very different than a total market index. I am tilting towards small cap and value, which over the long term have outperformed the total market significantly.

Have you compared your portfolio against a more typical three fund portfolio in portfolio visualized? Even if you were convinced the risk/returns were better with your AA, I’m sure you could recreate by consolidating mainly within VTI and adding a small cap value tilt with a single ETF along with some international exposure in another fund.

Do you have a specific tool to suggest on how I can do this comparison? It seems most portfolio visualizer are just looking at past performance.

[yatesd]

You could set up a Schwab Intelligent Advisor and do something that.

Is that the robo service? IF so, this is not possible, I used the robo service before. You can't even select own funds. And it forces you to keep at least 7-10% cash (since they make money on your cash).

You have no cash/bond allocation so this is a reason to not choose Schwab Intelligent Portfolio. I just want to point out the 7-10% cash does pay Government money market rates (about 4% today) so is reasonably competitive based on risk for a cash/bond allocation.
https://www.schwab.com/legal/sip-sweep- ... rest-rates

Correct, but I am investing for decades, therefore I am confident that this will be a lag on my portfolio vs stock investments.

That's what I said...if your preference is 100% stocks then it is an issue.

[ruralavalon]

One total market index will get you the same results.

Can you explain? My portfolio is very different than a total market index. I am tilting towards small cap and value, which over the long term have outperformed the total market significantly.

Have you compared your portfolio against a more typical three fund portfolio in portfolio visualized? Even if you were convinced the risk/returns were better with your AA, I’m sure you could recreate by consolidating mainly within VTI and adding a small cap value tilt with a single ETF along with some international exposure in another fund.

Do you have a specific tool to suggest on how I can do this comparison? It seems most portfolio visualizer are just looking at past performance.

There is no tool to compare future performance, because future performance is unknown.

[Brianmcg321]

One total market index will get you the same results.

Can you explain? My portfolio is very different than a total market index. I am tilting towards small cap and value, which over the long term have outperformed the total market significantly.

Yes, put your portfolio on portfoliovisualizer.com and backtest it. I’d be willing to bet the results are almost identical to a total market index.

If your wanting a small value tilt, then use two funds. One total market index and one small value index. The number of funds you have is just complicating your life, and not giving you increased returns.

[Jack FFR1846]

I was curious so did a max time period chart for VBR for small value and VTI for the rest of us. VTI healthily beat VBR. I learned about small cap value being a bad place from a Jack Bogle interview some time ago. He used it as an example of a sector where people find something that's outperformed for some particular time period and it becomes a rush to get in and continues being a rush for a while. Well, what happens when you get all this investment? It becomes overpriced and from what Jack said, that's where small cap value is now. So if you want to beat small cap value, use the entire US market. VTI or VTSAX work great for this.

[secondopinion]

I was curious so did a max time period chart for VBR for small value and VTI for the rest of us. VTI healthily beat VBR. I learned about small cap value being a bad place from a Jack Bogle interview some time ago. He used it as an example of a sector where people find something that's outperformed for some particular time period and it becomes a rush to get in and continues being a rush for a while. Well, what happens when you get all this investment? It becomes overpriced and from what Jack said, that's where small cap value is now. So if you want to beat small cap value, use the entire US market. VTI or VTSAX work great for this.

The root question is whether one should overweight stocks that have more present earnings or book value now per dollar, or favor those that hope to promise much more later. If we get stuck on the outperformance discussion, then we miss the true reason why a tilt may or may not be desirable.

It is like saying long-term bonds are bad over the total bond market without understanding the context of their purpose in the portfolio.

[tvanzo]

One total market index will get you the same results.

Can you explain? My portfolio is very different than a total market index. I am tilting towards small cap and value, which over the long term have outperformed the total market significantly.

Have you compared your portfolio against a more typical three fund portfolio in portfolio visualized? Even if you were convinced the risk/returns were better with your AA, I’m sure you could recreate by consolidating mainly within VTI and adding a small cap value tilt with a single ETF along with some international exposure in another fund.

Do you have a specific tool to suggest on how I can do this comparison? It seems most portfolio visualizer are just looking at past performance.

There is no tool to compare future performance, because future performance is unknown.

I did not mean future performance, rather a tool to see how I can construct similar fund using VTI as base.

[tvanzo]

I was curious so did a max time period chart for VBR for small value and VTI for the rest of us. VTI healthily beat VBR. I learned about small cap value being a bad place from a Jack Bogle interview some time ago. He used it as an example of a sector where people find something that's outperformed for some particular time period and it becomes a rush to get in and continues being a rush for a while. Well, what happens when you get all this investment? It becomes overpriced and from what Jack said, that's where small cap value is now. So if you want to beat small cap value, use the entire US market. VTI or VTSAX work great for this.

Since the inception of VBR, you are right, the total market (VTI) actually does slightly perform VBR. If you look more longer term though, small value absolutely dominates VTI and it is not even close.

[tvanzo]

One total market index will get you the same results.

Can you explain? My portfolio is very different than a total market index. I am tilting towards small cap and value, which over the long term have outperformed the total market significantly.

Yes, put your portfolio on portfoliovisualizer.com and backtest it. I’d be willing to bet the results are almost identical to a total market index.

If your wanting a small value tilt, then use two funds. One total market index and one small value index. The number of funds you have is just complicating your life, and not giving you increased returns.

Over the past 100 years, small caps have outperformed large caps 4 million % to 800k%, and therefore also have huge outperformance compared to total market which heavily weight large caps.

[David Jay]

Over the past 100 years, small caps have outperformed large caps 4 million % to 800k%, and therefore also have huge outperformance compared to total market which heavily weight large caps.

Small Cap was not easily accessible to the individual investor until the last 40 years or so. There was no way in 1923 to purchase a "basket" of small cap stocks. So looking back 100 years can be very misleading.

[anil686]

I would consider using VG mutual funds for automatic investments to automate your investing. Would give the standard caveat that more complicated portfolios tend to have more decisions to make about rebalancing and emotions. Behavioral errors can get in the way - speaking from personal experience fwiw. TBH, I don’t think it matters tilting or not tilting as long as you consistently stick with it - over very long periods of time, you will likely end up in similar places. JMO though….

[enad]

one thing you can do is simplify your allocation to include fewer funds i.e. 80% S&P500 or Total US Stock, 10% Total International, 10% US SCV. For me International or US SCV is not necessary.

[Dregob]

This seems antithetical to the Bogleheads philosophy. Why so many funds?

I think maybe M1 Finance can do what you are looking for, although I don't have any personal experience with it.

Is it really antithetical? I was wrong, actually only 6 funds now that I look at it. Either way I would rather not have to purchase 6 etfs every month manually. My split is:
VALUE EMERGING: Aves: 20%
S&P 600: IJR: 20%
SMALL CAP VALUE: AVUV: 15%
MID CAP: VO:20%
INT SMALL CAP VALUE: AVDV:15%
S&P 500: 10%

I'd cut it down to 5 at the minimum. Not a complete overlap but S&P 500 v 600 isn't going to change your return in a significant way no matter which one you pick. Why not get total stock market fund and replace 500,600 small and mid cap? Now you have 3 funds to invest in. Vanguard has an auto-investing option.

[riverant]

One total market index will get you the same results.

Can you explain? My portfolio is very different than a total market index. I am tilting towards small cap and value, which over the long term have outperformed the total market significantly.

Yes, put your portfolio on portfoliovisualizer.com and backtest it. I’d be willing to bet the results are almost identical to a total market index.

If your wanting a small value tilt, then use two funds. One total market index and one small value index. The number of funds you have is just complicating your life, and not giving you increased returns.

Over the past 100 years, small caps have outperformed large caps 4 million % to 800k%, and therefore also have huge outperformance compared to total market which heavily weight large caps.

Source? I suspect it’s affected by survivor bias where the returns of bankrupt companies aren’t included. And/or some distortion due to not removing the big winners from the small cap index at an appropriate time. An above poster also correctly pointed out that the small cap market is very difficult to fairly analyze over a 100 year period.

[Target2019]

"Can you set up automatic buys on Schwab?
In Charles Schwab, you have to go to “Trade” along the top menu, then click “Mutual Funds” from the sub-menu, and then you'll see that you have two options — to trade mutual funds, or another option, “Automatic Investing,” which lets you set up automatic investing instructions for funds that you're already in."

Would that help?

[RyeBourbon]

One total market index will get you the same results.

Can you explain? My portfolio is very different than a total market index. I am tilting towards small cap and value, which over the long term have outperformed the total market significantly.

Yes, put your portfolio on portfoliovisualizer.com and backtest it. I’d be willing to bet the results are almost identical to a total market index.

If your wanting a small value tilt, then use two funds. One total market index and one small value index. The number of funds you have is just complicating your life, and not giving you increased returns.

Over the past 100 years, small caps have outperformed large caps 4 million % to 800k%, and therefore also have huge outperformance compared to total market which heavily weight large caps.

Source? I suspect it’s affected by survivor bias where the returns of bankrupt companies aren’t included. And/or some distortion due to not removing the big winners from the small cap index at an appropriate time. An above poster also correctly pointed out that the small cap market is very difficult to fairly analyze over a 100 year period.

This. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

"In 1996, Elton, Gruber, and Blake showed that survivorship bias is larger in the small-fund sector than in large mutual funds (presumably because small funds have a high probability of folding)."