Brokerage account - what to buy?
Brokerage account - what to buy?
Hi, we are in our late 30s, tax bracket @ 32% Fed and 11% state.
Our portfolio is mainly in tax deferred accounts, with about 10% in Roth, and <2% in taxable brokerage account.
. Tax deferred accounts: 40% TRF, 52% total stock markets (VTSAX, vanguard 500 index), and 8% bonds (VBILX, VBLAX)
. Roth + taxable: 100% VTSAX
We just started brokerage account recently, and want to DCA. So far, we automatically invest into VTSAX, but I wonder should we increase our bond holding to lower market risk? If so, which fund? Thank you.
Our portfolio is mainly in tax deferred accounts, with about 10% in Roth, and <2% in taxable brokerage account.
. Tax deferred accounts: 40% TRF, 52% total stock markets (VTSAX, vanguard 500 index), and 8% bonds (VBILX, VBLAX)
. Roth + taxable: 100% VTSAX
We just started brokerage account recently, and want to DCA. So far, we automatically invest into VTSAX, but I wonder should we increase our bond holding to lower market risk? If so, which fund? Thank you.
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Re: Brokerage account - what to buy?
A municipal bond fund, preferable one for your state.
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Re: Brokerage account - what to buy?
Babyvinny, by asking if you should increase bonds, you're essentially asking "what should my asset allocation be?" Ideally, you'll pick your AA first, and then pick investments for tax-deferred or taxable accounts appropriate for your target AA as well for tax-efficiency.babyvinny wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:22 pm Hi, we are in our late 30s, tax bracket @ 32% Fed and 11% state.
Our portfolio is mainly in tax deferred accounts, with about 10% in Roth, and <2% in taxable brokerage account.
. Tax deferred accounts: 40% TRF, 52% total stock markets (VTSAX, vanguard 500 index), and 8% bonds (VBILX, VBLAX)
. Roth + taxable: 100% VTSAX
We just started brokerage account recently, and want to DCA. So far, we automatically invest into VTSAX, but I wonder should we increase our bond holding to lower market risk? If so, which fund? Thank you.
Why/how did you pick your previous AA? Have you considered your willingness, ability, and need to take risk? The Boglehead wiki article https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Assessi ... _tolerance talks about those factors. Knowing why you want to change your market risk is important.
Once you get your AA finalized, the easy part will be deciding what investments to put into which accounts (likely stocks in taxable), and which bond fund to use (likely the same bond funds you're using now).
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Re: Brokerage account - what to buy?
Consider Vanguard California Intermediate Term Municipal Bond Fund (VCAIX) if you decide on using municipal bonds.
They also have a long-term CA muni fund if that is of interest (VCITX).
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They also have a long-term CA muni fund if that is of interest (VCITX).
Regards,
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Re: Brokerage account - what to buy?
Thank you for your reply.sycamore wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:35 pmBabyvinny, by asking if you should increase bonds, you're essentially asking "what should my asset allocation be?" Ideally, you'll pick your AA first, and then pick investments for tax-deferred or taxable accounts appropriate for your target AA as well for tax-efficiency.babyvinny wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:22 pm Hi, we are in our late 30s, tax bracket @ 32% Fed and 11% state.
Our portfolio is mainly in tax deferred accounts, with about 10% in Roth, and <2% in taxable brokerage account.
. Tax deferred accounts: 40% TRF, 52% total stock markets (VTSAX, vanguard 500 index), and 8% bonds (VBILX, VBLAX)
. Roth + taxable: 100% VTSAX
We just started brokerage account recently, and want to DCA. So far, we automatically invest into VTSAX, but I wonder should we increase our bond holding to lower market risk? If so, which fund? Thank you.
Why/how did you pick your previous AA? Have you considered your willingness, ability, and need to take risk? The Boglehead wiki article https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Assessi ... _tolerance talks about those factors. Knowing why you want to change your market risk is important.
Once you get your AA finalized, the easy part will be deciding what investments to put into which accounts (likely stocks in taxable), and which bond fund to use (likely the same bond funds you're using now).
We think we can tolerate risk, our income is relatively stable, and we plan to work for another 20 years. Last year our portfolio dropped 30%, we came out fine, but I think with 10% -15% bond, we may feel less painful if market drops again?
I don’t really have a defined financial plan, so I just picked what the company offers at the lowest expense ratio, and VTSAX for convenience.
Re: Brokerage account - what to buy?
Thanks, I’ll look into itretired@50 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:40 pm Consider Vanguard California Intermediate Term Municipal Bond Fund (VCAIX) if you decide on using municipal bonds.
They also have a long-term CA muni fund if that is of interest (VCITX).
Regards,
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Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund (VTSAX) is an excellent choice in the taxable account, it is very tax-efficient.babyvinny wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:22 pm Hi, we are in our late 30s, tax bracket @ 32% Fed and 11% state.
Our portfolio is mainly in tax deferred accounts, with about 10% in Roth, and <2% in taxable brokerage account.
. Tax deferred accounts: 40% TRF, 52% total stock markets (VTSAX, vanguard 500 index), and 8% bonds (VBILX, VBLAX)
. Roth + taxable: 100% VTSAX
We just started brokerage account recently, and want to DCA. So far, we automatically invest into VTSAX, but I wonder should we increase our bond holding to lower market risk? If so, which fund? Thank you.
You can adjust your asset allocation by the increasing your use of Vanguard Intermediate-term Bond Index Fund (VBILX) in your 401k account.
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Re: Brokerage account - what to buy?
At this time, we can’t make adjustment for that 401k. Should I sell VTSAX in Roth and replace with VBILX?ruralavalon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:33 pmVanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund (VTSAX) is an excellent choice in the taxable account, it is very tax-efficient.babyvinny wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:22 pm Hi, we are in our late 30s, tax bracket @ 32% Fed and 11% state.
Our portfolio is mainly in tax deferred accounts, with about 10% in Roth, and <2% in taxable brokerage account.
. Tax deferred accounts: 40% TRF, 52% total stock markets (VTSAX, vanguard 500 index), and 8% bonds (VBILX, VBLAX)
. Roth + taxable: 100% VTSAX
We just started brokerage account recently, and want to DCA. So far, we automatically invest into VTSAX, but I wonder should we increase our bond holding to lower market risk? If so, which fund? Thank you.
You can adjust your asset allocation by the increasing your use of Vanguard Intermediate-term Bond Index Fund (VBILX) in your 401k account.
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Re: Brokerage account - what to buy?
I'd use a municipal bond fund in taxable before I put taxable bonds inside a Roth account, especially at your tax bracket.babyvinny wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:37 pmAt this time, we can’t make adjustment for that 401k. Should I sell VTSAX in Roth and replace with VBILX?ruralavalon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:33 pmVanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund (VTSAX) is an excellent choice in the taxable account, it is very tax-efficient.babyvinny wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:22 pm Hi, we are in our late 30s, tax bracket @ 32% Fed and 11% state.
Our portfolio is mainly in tax deferred accounts, with about 10% in Roth, and <2% in taxable brokerage account.
. Tax deferred accounts: 40% TRF, 52% total stock markets (VTSAX, vanguard 500 index), and 8% bonds (VBILX, VBLAX)
. Roth + taxable: 100% VTSAX
We just started brokerage account recently, and want to DCA. So far, we automatically invest into VTSAX, but I wonder should we increase our bond holding to lower market risk? If so, which fund? Thank you.
You can adjust your asset allocation by the increasing your use of Vanguard Intermediate-term Bond Index Fund (VBILX) in your 401k account.
Regards,
This is one person's opinion. Nothing more.
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Re: Brokerage account - what to buy?
What is the reason you can't exchange funds (stock fund to bond fund) inside your 401k account?babyvinny wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:37 pmAt this time, we can’t make adjustment for that 401k. Should I sell VTSAX in Roth and replace with VBILX?ruralavalon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:33 pmVanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund (VTSAX) is an excellent choice in the taxable account, it is very tax-efficient.babyvinny wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:22 pm Hi, we are in our late 30s, tax bracket @ 32% Fed and 11% state.
Our portfolio is mainly in tax deferred accounts, with about 10% in Roth, and <2% in taxable brokerage account.
. Tax deferred accounts: 40% TRF, 52% total stock markets (VTSAX, vanguard 500 index), and 8% bonds (VBILX, VBLAX)
. Roth + taxable: 100% VTSAX
We just started brokerage account recently, and want to DCA. So far, we automatically invest into VTSAX, but I wonder should we increase our bond holding to lower market risk? If so, which fund? Thank you.
You can adjust your asset allocation by the increasing your use of Vanguard Intermediate-term Bond Index Fund (VBILX) in your 401k account.
"Everything should be as simple as it is, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein |
Wiki article link:Getting Started
Re: Brokerage account - what to buy?
I don’t know a lot about bonds, I tried to learn, but still don’t get them. Thanks for letting me know the advantage of municipal bond fund in taxable.retired@50 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:24 pmI'd use a municipal bond fund in taxable before I put taxable bonds inside a Roth account, especially at your tax bracket.babyvinny wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:37 pmAt this time, we can’t make adjustment for that 401k. Should I sell VTSAX in Roth and replace with VBILX?ruralavalon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:33 pmVanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund (VTSAX) is an excellent choice in the taxable account, it is very tax-efficient.babyvinny wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:22 pm Hi, we are in our late 30s, tax bracket @ 32% Fed and 11% state.
Our portfolio is mainly in tax deferred accounts, with about 10% in Roth, and <2% in taxable brokerage account.
. Tax deferred accounts: 40% TRF, 52% total stock markets (VTSAX, vanguard 500 index), and 8% bonds (VBILX, VBLAX)
. Roth + taxable: 100% VTSAX
We just started brokerage account recently, and want to DCA. So far, we automatically invest into VTSAX, but I wonder should we increase our bond holding to lower market risk? If so, which fund? Thank you.
You can adjust your asset allocation by the increasing your use of Vanguard Intermediate-term Bond Index Fund (VBILX) in your 401k account.
Regards,
Re: Brokerage account - what to buy?
The bond funds are in an old solo401k. I’m not sure if I should do anything with it.ruralavalon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:38 amWhat is the reason you can't exchange funds (stock fund to bond fund) inside your 401k account?babyvinny wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:37 pmAt this time, we can’t make adjustment for that 401k. Should I sell VTSAX in Roth and replace with VBILX?ruralavalon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:33 pmVanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund (VTSAX) is an excellent choice in the taxable account, it is very tax-efficient.babyvinny wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:22 pm Hi, we are in our late 30s, tax bracket @ 32% Fed and 11% state.
Our portfolio is mainly in tax deferred accounts, with about 10% in Roth, and <2% in taxable brokerage account.
. Tax deferred accounts: 40% TRF, 52% total stock markets (VTSAX, vanguard 500 index), and 8% bonds (VBILX, VBLAX)
. Roth + taxable: 100% VTSAX
We just started brokerage account recently, and want to DCA. So far, we automatically invest into VTSAX, but I wonder should we increase our bond holding to lower market risk? If so, which fund? Thank you.
You can adjust your asset allocation by the increasing your use of Vanguard Intermediate-term Bond Index Fund (VBILX) in your 401k account.
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Re: Brokerage account - what to buy?
Are good funds with low expense ratios offered in your current employer's 401k plan?babyvinny wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:48 pmThe bond funds are in an old solo401k. I’m not sure if I should do anything with it.ruralavalon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:38 amWhat is the reason you can't exchange funds (stock fund to bond fund) inside your 401k account?babyvinny wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:37 pmAt this time, we can’t make adjustment for that 401k. Should I sell VTSAX in Roth and replace with VBILX?ruralavalon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:33 pmVanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund (VTSAX) is an excellent choice in the taxable account, it is very tax-efficient.babyvinny wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:22 pm Hi, we are in our late 30s, tax bracket @ 32% Fed and 11% state.
Our portfolio is mainly in tax deferred accounts, with about 10% in Roth, and <2% in taxable brokerage account.
. Tax deferred accounts: 40% TRF, 52% total stock markets (VTSAX, vanguard 500 index), and 8% bonds (VBILX, VBLAX)
. Roth + taxable: 100% VTSAX
We just started brokerage account recently, and want to DCA. So far, we automatically invest into VTSAX, but I wonder should we increase our bond holding to lower market risk? If so, which fund? Thank you.
You can adjust your asset allocation by the increasing your use of Vanguard Intermediate-term Bond Index Fund (VBILX) in your 401k account.
Have you kept your old solo 401k open for some particular reason? Do you still have self-employment income?
"Everything should be as simple as it is, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein |
Wiki article link:Getting Started
Re: Brokerage account - what to buy?
No good employer’s 401k plan. At the moment, no self-employment income, but may be in the near future.ruralavalon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:57 pmAre good funds with low expense ratios offered in your current employer's 401k plan?babyvinny wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:48 pmThe bond funds are in an old solo401k. I’m not sure if I should do anything with it.ruralavalon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:38 amWhat is the reason you can't exchange funds (stock fund to bond fund) inside your 401k account?babyvinny wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:37 pmAt this time, we can’t make adjustment for that 401k. Should I sell VTSAX in Roth and replace with VBILX?ruralavalon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:33 pm
Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund (VTSAX) is an excellent choice in the taxable account, it is very tax-efficient.
You can adjust your asset allocation by the increasing your use of Vanguard Intermediate-term Bond Index Fund (VBILX) in your 401k account.
Have you kept your old solo 401k open for some particular reason? Do you still have self-employment income?