dead cat mouse

[k1982]

would you consider today (Tuesday) 3/24/2020 'dead cat bounce'? at least as of 10 am central time
love to hear your thoughts ..

[k1982]

lol i'm sorry it should of said dead cat BOUNCE

[alex_686]

Won't know until next Monday.

[chevca]

Musta been a heck of a mouse!

[Hyperchicken]

Sometimes the cat eats the mouse, and sometimes the mouse, well, it eats the cat.

[k1982]

the first few comments already made my day. first time i laughed in a while thanks guys

i guess i helped start the joke with my error ...just woke up

[Sandtrap]

If a cat eats a dead mouse that has been poisoned, the cat will get sick or die.

So. . .dead cat and dead mouse.

You can edit your original post using the "pencil icon", also edit the title.
Or, leave it as is for forum stress relief.

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[chevca]

I agree though, it's too early to tell. It could end up down again today, could be a return to sanity, or who knows...

[Keenobserver]

i like to believe so. I havent bought too much thinking we got some way to go to bottom. Everything is up like 25%, dont think wi hold..assuming a decline after lunch

[CyclingDuo]

would you consider today (Tuesday) 3/24/2020 'dead cat bounce'? at least as of 10 am central time
love to hear your thoughts ..

Or, in the case of the narrative surrounding Covid19, maybe the title should have been a dead bat...

[frugaltigris]

This bounce seems to indicate that the market has not really priced this catastrophic event wisely. By end of this week when we have more cases than China, the bear will be back to devour. Never play with an angry bear.

[livesoft]

It will all depend on your fellow speculators investors and their actions which you cannot really predict. Just remember the government is going to give away a lot of free money and that usually helps the stock market until a hangover sets in.

[alex_686]

If a cat eats a dead mouse that has been poisoned, the cat will get sick or die.

So. . .dead cat and dead mouse.

No, he is talking about mouse named Cat. Or a Cat named mouse. Not sure which one.

[JD13]

Seems like both cat and mouse are dead because of COVID-19, so there's no one left to play the investing game .

[sd323232]

whats dead cat mouse? learn something new everyday

[Kenkat]

Tom and Jerry. Just remember, Jerry always ends up ok in the end.

[willthrill81]

This bounce seems to indicate that the market has not really priced this catastrophic event wisely. By end of this week when we have more cases than China, the bear will be back to devour. Never play with an angry bear.

We've already seen six dead cat bounces this month. I trust today's spike about as much as a politician holding my wallet.

[Dottie57]

This bounce seems to indicate that the market has not really priced this catastrophic event wisely. By end of this week when we have more cases than China, the bear will be back to devour. Never play with an angry bear.

We've already seen six dead cat bounces this month. I trust today's spike about as much as a politician holding my wallet.

Too funny.

[yohac]

We've already seen six dead cat bounces this month. I trust today's spike about as much as a politician holding my wallet.

We are totally in "sell the rally" mode. Haven't had two consecutive up days since early February. If you could slide down the Dow chart from the last month, MAN would that hurt.

[Watty]

It is easy to try to see patterns when there are not any.

I would just classify it as high volatility, both up and down.

[Peculiar_Investor]

lol i'm sorry it should of said dead cat BOUNCE

Click the pencil icon (Edit post) in your first post and you can fix the subject if you want.

Apparently the dead cat bounced from here

[22twain]

We've already seen six dead cat bounces this month.

Three more to go...

[k1982]

i didn't know you can edit your own posts. i just saw the option. thank you
but right now i don't really want to edit it anymore cause of the humor in this
i need a good laugh. everyone has been so serious lately

laughter is best medicine

we all know this is clearly a dead cat bounce
zoom is down 12% while the whole stock market is near intraday highs again.
suuuuuurrree *smh*

smoke and mirrors

[xraygoggles]

I think this is clearly a false rally.

Things are going to go downhill once virus ramps up in the larger southern states without lockdown measures.

[2020 ButClassic]

This could be the buy-on-the-news stage. But hopefully the downward pressure has at least subsided.

[Nicolas]

This rally can’t be real without capitulation first, which I don’t think we’ve seen. Still, it feels good. Norwegian Cruise Lines up 45%!

[Kakarot]

New to investing, never dealt with the 08 crisis, wounding if this is a good time to catch a little lightning in a bottle to get back a few% and move what money I can to a low interest saving for a few months until things start to normalize. I am just spit balling and guessing that if the fed reserve is going to assist the market, the people closer to the their designated retirement date might liquidate and take the loss, creating a weird fluctuation in the market for a few months.

thanks.

[frugaltigris]

This title inspires to understand a generalization of Schrodinger's cat paradox by including a mouse. Options would be:

1. is cat alive along with the mouse?
2. is cat alive but mouse is dead (more likely)
3. is mouse alive with a dead cat (quantum mechanics will say not impossible)
4. mouse and cat are both dead

[framus]

This title inspires to understand a generalization of Schrodinger's cat paradox by including a mouse. Options would be:

1. is cat alive along with the mouse?
2. is cat alive but mouse is dead (more likely)
3. is mouse alive with a dead cat (quantum mechanics will say not impossible)
4. mouse and cat are both dead

[the way]

Musta been a heck of a mouse!

This virus really is turning out to be the "Mouse that Roared". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdsXhod2Tbw

(fantastic movie and main actor was Peter Sellers)

[junior]

New to investing, never dealt with the 08 crisis, wounding if this is a good time to catch a little lightning in a bottle to get back a few% and move what money I can to a low interest saving for a few months until things start to normalize. I am just spit balling and guessing that if the fed reserve is going to assist the market, the people closer to the their designated retirement date might liquidate and take the loss, creating a weird fluctuation in the market for a few months.

thanks.

If you are a young investor with a job and an emergency found you should be investing as much you can rather than trying to time the market.

[DiploInvestor]

It'll just be a Modest (dead cat) Mouse.

[Chip]

I think this is clearly a false rally.

Things are going to go downhill once virus ramps up in the larger southern states without lockdown measures.

Nothing is clear. You don't know what the market is anticipating, though it surely knows that there are states without lockdown measures. The market can rally strongly in the face of bad news. The news was AWFUL on 3/6/09, yet that was the bottom.

This might be a false rally. But I know enough to know that I don't know.

[22twain]

This title inspires to understand a generalization of Schrodinger's cat paradox by including a mouse. Options would be:

1. is cat alive along with the mouse?
2. is cat alive but mouse is dead (more likely)
3. is mouse alive with a dead cat (quantum mechanics will say not impossible)
4. mouse and cat are both dead

Maybe we should call this a "Heisen-bounce."

[Peculiar_Investor]

would you consider today (Tuesday) 3/24/2020 'dead cat bounce'? at least as of 10 am central time
love to hear your thoughts ..

Even I did, there is nothing in my investment policy statement that mentions anything about dead cat mouse bounces, nor any other market timing indicator for that matter.

I'll leave it to the media, and others, to categorize what happened today and what it should be called. I just ignore that noise.

[FelixTheCat]

What is a Dead Cat Bounce?

A dead cat bounce is a temporary recovery of asset prices from a prolonged decline or a bear market that is followed by the continuation of the downtrend. A dead cat bounce is a small, short-lived recovery in the price of a declining security, such as a stock. Frequently, downtrends are interrupted by brief periods of recovery — or small rallies — where prices temporarily rise.

The name "dead cat bounce" is based on the notion that even a dead cat will bounce if it falls far enough and fast enough.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/deadcatbounce.asp

[PDX_Traveler]

This title inspires to understand a generalization of Schrodinger's cat paradox by including a mouse. Options would be:

1. is cat alive along with the mouse?
2. is cat alive but mouse is dead (more likely)
3. is mouse alive with a dead cat (quantum mechanics will say not impossible)
4. mouse and cat are both dead

this leaves out other important options such as:

mouse and/or cat are both alive and dead ... (or topically, both are asymptomatic carriers of a virus)

if no one is there to observe the mouse and / or cat, are they alive or dead? does it matter (ob. investing link - what are the connections to the doings in the financial markets)

[Double Dog]

instant classic post title

[stocknoob4111]

would you consider today (Tuesday) 3/24/2020 'dead cat bounce'? at least as of 10 am central time
love to hear your thoughts ..

yes, look at 3/12 to 3/13, S&*P 500 rose 231 points and then fell 325 points the very next day!

Today we rose 209 points... I think the general trend is down to 2000.

[personal_investing]

i didn't know you can edit your own posts. i just saw the option. thank you
but right now i don't really want to edit it anymore cause of the humor in this
i need a good laugh. everyone has been so serious lately

laughter is best medicine

we all know this is clearly a dead cat bounce
zoom is down 12% while the whole stock market is near intraday highs again.
suuuuuurrree *smh*

smoke and mirrors

what is 'zoom'?

[lakpr]

what is 'zoom'?

Zoom video communications, its software is used by many who work from home.
https://zoom.us/

[Teague]

This title inspires to understand a generalization of Schrodinger's cat paradox by including a mouse. Options would be:

1. is cat alive along with the mouse?
2. is cat alive but mouse is dead (more likely)
3. is mouse alive with a dead cat (quantum mechanics will say not impossible)
4. mouse and cat are both dead

Entangled cat and mouse at opposite "ends" of the universe, where the state of each is both unknown and dependent on the other?

[retire2022]

i didn't know you can edit your own posts. i just saw the option. thank you
but right now i don't really want to edit it anymore cause of the humor in this
i need a good laugh. everyone has been so serious lately

laughter is best medicine

we all know this is clearly a dead cat bounce
zoom is down 12% while the whole stock market is near intraday highs again.
suuuuuurrree *smh*

smoke and mirrors

what is 'zoom'?

I think K1982 is referring to Zoom stock which does video conferencing for buisnesses

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoom_Video_Communications

[lessismore22]

This bounce seems to indicate that the market has not really priced this catastrophic event wisely. By end of this week when we have more cases than China, the bear will be back to devour. Never play with an angry bear.

We've already seen six dead cat bounces this month. I trust today's spike about as much as a politician holding my wallet.

This is terrific.

[retire2022]

Op how about a six toed cat?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polydactyl_cat

History and folklore
Right front paw of a polydactyl cat. Circles represent digits. The circle with a question mark indicates what might be a separate digit. The rightmost circle is for a small, underdeveloped, clawless digit.
Preaxial polydactyly, Hemingway mutant: frequency of polydactylous digits per individual

The condition seems to be most commonly found in cats along the East Coast of North America (in the United States and Canada)[4] and in South West England, Wales and Kingston-upon-Hull.[citation needed] Polydactyl cats have been extremely popular as ship's cats.[4] Although there is some controversy over whether the most common variant of the trait originated as a mutation in New England or was brought there from Britain, there seems to be agreement that it spread widely as a result of cats carried on ships originating in Boston, Massachusetts, and the prevalence of polydactyly among the cat population of various ports correlates with the dates when they first established trade with Boston.[4] Contributing to the spread of polydactyl cats by this means, sailors were long known to value polydactyl cats especially for their extraordinary climbing and hunting abilities as an aid in controlling shipboard rodents.[4] Some sailors thought they bring good luck at sea.[4] The rarity of polydactyl cats in Europe may be because they were hunted and killed due to superstitions about witchcraft.[4]

Genetic work studying the DNA basis of the condition indicates that many different mutations in the same ZRS area can all lead to polydactyly.[1]

[tvubpwcisla]

I think volatility will remain for quite some time, maybe even throughout the year with the election coming up as well. We will see some large up days like today and we will see some extremely bad days as well. At the end of 2020, I expect the market to settle in somewhere between plus or minus 10 to 15%.

[AspireToRetire]

I think volatility will remain for quite some time, maybe even throughout the year with the election coming up as well. We will see some large up days like today and we will see some extremely bad days as well. At the end of 2020, I expect the market to settle in somewhere between plus or minus 10 to 15%.

Lol that’s a 30% range!

Me too. My guess is the market will be either positive or negative by year end.

[RudyS]

Someone mentioned Norwegian Cruise Lines. Reminds me of GM. Quite a few folks bought it before it finally went under.

[averagedude]

Been a while since the markets had had 2 trading days in a row of positive gains. I look for it to be down tomorrow, but only slightly.

[Samosa22]

I think volatility will remain for quite some time, maybe even throughout the year with the election coming up as well. We will see some large up days like today and we will see some extremely bad days as well. At the end of 2020, I expect the market to settle in somewhere between plus or minus 10 to 15%.

Lol that’s a 30% range!

Me too. My guess is the market will be either positive or negative by year end.

@AspireToRetire, would be funny if market ends up at exactly zero net gain/loss.