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Full listing of mutual fund holdings

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:29 am
by mminaz
Everywhere I look, most financial websites give the Top 10 holdings of a mutual fund. Vanguard allows you to view the holdings at 50 companies per page.

How can all the holdings be viewed on a single page or better yet be downloaded into a spreadsheet. The idea is to make the holdings easier to search.

Re: Full listing of mutual fund holdings

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:36 am
by Taylor Larimore
mminaz wrote:Everywhere I look, most financial websites give the Top 10 holdings of a mutual fund. Vanguard allows you to view the holdings at 50 companies per page.

How can all the holdings be viewed on a single page or better yet be downloaded into a spreadsheet. The idea is to make the holdings easier to search.


Hi mminaz:

I'm curious. What benefit do you derive from knowing your fund's individual holdings? Is it to second-guess the fund manager?

Thank you and best wishes.
Taylor

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:53 am
by mminaz
Not at all,

The idea is to quickly find if I truly hold all the world's stocks ex. Canada (see my sig for my holdings). I friend at work was bragging about his individual stock picks.

I want to take satisfaction that the index strategy holds a little bit of everybody.

Reason for knowing fund holdings.

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:00 pm
by Taylor Larimore
Mminaz:

Thank you for your reply.

Best wishes.
Taylor

Re: Full listing of mutual fund holdings

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:19 pm
by tfb
mminaz wrote:How can all the holdings be viewed on a single page or better yet be downloaded into a spreadsheet. The idea is to make the holdings easier to search.
You get full listings from the fund's semi-annual reports. The reports are available on the fund company's web site or SEC's EDGAR site. Bogleheads Wiki has links to the SEC reports for most Vanguard funds. I heard M* also started listing SEC reports.

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:35 pm
by mminaz
Perfect! You led me to just what I was looking for.

https://personal.vanguard.com/us/litera ... utualfunds

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:06 pm
by livesoft
mminaz wrote:...The idea is to quickly find if I truly hold all the world's stocks ex. Canada (see my sig for my holdings). I friend at work was bragging about his individual stock picks.

I want to take satisfaction that the index strategy holds a little bit of everybody.
The index strategy does not hold a little bit of everybody. I hope you are not disappointed. Also, I wouldn't try to compete with friends at work nor with other family members with regards to investing. I have found that they generally remember only their winners and conveniently forget about their losers and other mistakes. Of course, you could ask for audited results ... now that might interesting.

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:39 pm
by mminaz
I'm finding that there are a few companies that are not held in the major Vanguard indices. No worries, at least I have a very broad mix at low cost.

My only competing with people at work is trying to get them to understand "the relentless rules of humble arithmetic" :wink:

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:37 pm
by johnjtaylorus
mminaz, if you look at indexing at Vanguard and elsewhere, you'll note the difference between a full replication strategy and a sampling strategy in some offerings.

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:23 am
by PiperWarrior
johnjtaylorus wrote:mminaz, if you look at indexing at Vanguard and elsewhere, you'll note the difference between a full replication strategy and a sampling strategy in some offerings.
Yup. For example, the prospectus of Vanguard Total Stock Mkt Idx (VTSMX) says:
The Fund typically holds 1,200-1,300 stocks in its target index (covering nearly 95% of the Index's total market capitalization) and a representative sample of the remaining stocks.