Is an IRA conversion the same as a backdoor IRA?

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eye.surgeon
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Is an IRA conversion the same as a backdoor IRA?

Post by eye.surgeon » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:32 pm

Vanguard changes their website interface so much that every year when I do my backdoor Roth IRA contribution it's a different method. This year it's different again. I have already contributed $5,500 into my traditional IRA account yesterday, now when I try to exchange that fund for a Roth IRA fund it asks me if I want to do a Roth conversion, as my only option. It's never termed it like that before. Is this what I want to do?
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Re: Is an IRA conversion the same as a backdoor IRA?

Post by Chip » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:47 pm

Yes. The backdoor Roth is a non-deductible contribution to a traditional IRA followed by conversion of that IRA to a Roth.

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Re: Is an IRA conversion the same as a backdoor IRA?

Post by Spirit Rider » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:56 pm

Any movement from from a traditional IRA to a Roth IRA is a Roth conversion. It mechanically may be a same trustee inter-account transfer, a trustee - trustee transfer or an indirect rollover. Tax-wise it must always be reported as a Roth conversion on form 8606 even if there is no tax liability.

All backdoor Roths involve a Roth conversion, but not all Roth conversions are part of a backdoor Roth. A backdoor Roth always involves a non-deductible traditional IRA contribution followed by a Roth conversion regardless of what it was called. What makes it a true backdoor Roth, is when the Roth conversion has little to no tax liability.

Vanguard is probably changing the name so people know for sure that this is a Roth conversion. Maybe they had too many cases of uninformed people thinking they could just move the traditional IRA accounts to a Roth account with no tax liability.

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