Why is that?moneyman11 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:59 am This had the potential to be an interesting thread, but the last two comments are just gonna get it locked.
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- Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:02 pm
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: Please "unpack" how a bond fund works for fixed income in retirement
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1009
Re: Please "unpack" how a bond fund works for fixed income in retirement
- Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:26 am
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: Please "unpack" how a bond fund works for fixed income in retirement
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1009
Please "unpack" how a bond fund works for fixed income in retirement
Good morning, Most BHs believe that bonds are a necessary part of a balanced portfolio. I hear about how they can be regarded as fixed income assets in retirement. How exactly does that work? If the more knowledgeable experts here could unpack the concepts to those of us (like me) who are less than ...
- Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:05 am
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: Bond Funds don't work in a crisis
- Replies: 179
- Views: 13363
Re: Bond Funds don't work in a crisis
I agree with and practice the principle of keeping your corporate risk confined to the equity side of the portfolio. My only bond holding is FNBGX which is up 9% YTD. What is that bond fund's duration? I couldn't find it on Fidelity's website. When I'm looking up a ticker I just Google it. Then you...
- Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:59 am
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Anyone (now) regret choosing a lump sum vs. annuity option?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 1351
Re: Anyone (now) regret choosing a lump sum vs. annuity option?
I am awaiting a lump sum payout in the coming weeks. This decision was made after considering that the crossover point of fixed annuity vs payout was 16.6 years. I thought it was a no brainer. The annuity offered had no COLA built into it which made my decision easier. It comforts me to know that I ...
- Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:07 am
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: Bond Funds don't work in a crisis
- Replies: 179
- Views: 13363
Re: Bond Funds don't work in a crisis
I agree with and practice the principle of keeping your corporate risk confined to the equity side of the portfolio. My only bond holding is FNBGX which is up 9% YTD. What is that bond fund's duration? I couldn't find it on Fidelity's website. Under the "composition" tab: Duration - 18.66...
- Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:44 am
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: Bond Funds don't work in a crisis
- Replies: 179
- Views: 13363
- Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:16 pm
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: thank you Bill Bernstein: "If You've Won the Game, Stop Playing"
- Replies: 51
- Views: 7074
Re: thank you Bill Bernstein: "If You've Won the Game, Stop Playing"
Bill, you saved my bacon, thank you for your wisdom. best, Curious when you and other posters here are thanking Bill Bernstein and others, whether you had completely gotten 100% out of stocks or just significantly reduced your allocation at this point after having enough?" I retired on Februar...
- Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:40 pm
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: How many funds do you have in your portfolio?
- Replies: 167
- Views: 12264
Re: How many funds do you have in your portfolio?
Two... And a small chunk in REITS that I won't touch for a number of years.
- Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:13 pm
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: I can't believe I am thinking this [Panic and Survival 2008-09]
- Replies: 434
- Views: 284106
Re: I can't believe I am thinking this [Panic and Survival 2008-09]
Still at 40/60 and still retired. I feel fine.ribeyesteaks wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:09 pm How are people feeling now? What if the S&P drops to 1600 or lower?
- Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:28 pm
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: Why not liquidate?
- Replies: 48
- Views: 4503
Re: Why not liquidate?
Then you would be contributing to the market dropping, wouldn't you?
- Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:03 am
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Who is staying course and how are you dealing with net worth going down?
- Replies: 359
- Views: 27066
Thoughts from a recent retiree
I retired on the last day of February so I picked a bad time to test my AA and my stamina. Fortunately my AA is pretty decent with 40/60 split and a large lump sum pension coming in a few weeks. I also have 2 years of cash savings to ride out some of this drop. Losing large chunks of value in equiti...
- Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:35 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Who are getting excited with the plummeting market?
- Replies: 100
- Views: 10222
Re: Who are getting excited with the plummeting market?
nvm...not worth it.
- Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:14 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Who are getting excited with the plummeting market?
- Replies: 100
- Views: 10222
Re: Who are getting excited with the plummeting market?
For every person who is hoping for a huge correction to the market, is another one who is presently or in the midst of retiring. Just remember that when it becomes your problem you will not be so excited. Posting excitement threads in down markets is bad form. There is at least a half a dozen poster...
- Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:58 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Ok, I'll ask it... temporarily getting out of the market with a small % of portfolio?
- Replies: 52
- Views: 3211
Re: Ok, I'll ask it... temporarily getting out of the market with a small % of portfolio?
This question indicates you are not comfortable with the stock to bond ratio of your portfolio. If you do anything at all, you could lower the stock to bond ratio AND LEAVE IT THERE. Your stock to bond ratio (your AA) should be something you can be comfortable with during the good times and the bad...
- Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:49 am
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Fidelity SPAXX Safety
- Replies: 9
- Views: 1500
Re: Fidelity SPAXX Safety
SPAXX is designed to be your core position within Fidelity. I seriously doubt that it will go below a buck.
- Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:44 am
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: Actual experience vs hypothetical scenarios
- Replies: 46
- Views: 3478
Re: Actual experience vs hypothetical scenarios
This is my first real volatility experience with significant amounts of investable assets. And I think I've managed to gauge my risk tolerance just right. And interesting too, because it seems like the downturn this time around was very quick by historical standards. In retrospect, I bought too ear...
- Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:02 am
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: Actual experience vs hypothetical scenarios
- Replies: 46
- Views: 3478
Re: Actual experience vs hypothetical scenarios
I have been investing since 1983 and have seen my share of volatility. I was too busy raising my family to be concerned. I just kept saving and raising my contributions as I went through life. Now in retirement with my allocation at 40/60 I am still a bit uncomfortable but OK. What are my options? T...
- Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:26 pm
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: Chinese Stocks during the COVID-19 Pandemic
- Replies: 95
- Views: 8474
Re: Chinese Stocks during the COVID-19 Pandemic
First thing China needs to do is get the wet markets out of their economy.
- Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:25 am
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: What are you up YTD? [Year To Date]
- Replies: 3402
- Views: 571299
Re: What are you up YTD? [Year To Date]
Nice catch

- Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:43 am
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Move Ed Jones to Vanguard, best way?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 921
Re: Move Ed Jones to Vanguard, best way?
Congratulations on making to the move to Vanguard. Have all of your interactions with Vanguard. When the process is done, you can send a brief note to your EJ person saying that you’ve moved your assets, and offering your thanks to that person. (You may not feel that EJ has served you well, but it’...
- Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:54 am
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: What are you up YTD? [Year To Date]
- Replies: 3402
- Views: 571299
Re: What are you up YTD? [Year To Date]
Up 0.94%. 42/58%
- Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:25 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: If you can afford to increase your 401k contributions now, should you?
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2478
Re: If you can afford to increase your 401k contributions now, should you?
Seriously thinking about loading up in the next few months and ending my annual allotment earlier in 2020. Anyone else doing this? Market timing? Market timing gets so overused on these forums. Taking advantage of down markets when cash infusion is possible is not market timing. The market is reall...
- Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:17 pm
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: Could this selloff be nearly over?
- Replies: 68
- Views: 5336
Re: Could this selloff be nearly over?
Of course it's possible. The opposite is also possible, along with somewhere in the middle. I could say more but my crystal ball is in the shop. They were supposed to return it to me a year ago, but they're waiting for an OEM part that was delayed due to unforeseen circumstances. PJW I saw your cry...
- Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:20 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Move from bonds to Money Market,CDs, savings acct, etc.?[UPDATE]
- Replies: 98
- Views: 9082
Re: Move from bonds to Money Market,CDs, savings acct, etc.?
Thanks for the feedback. A few comments. I understand your concern, and I suppose I share it. However, I'm not ready to act. Since I plan on being an investor in both stocks and bonds for another 30 years or more, the problem is: When would you get back in to bonds? If you can say when you'd get ba...
- Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:15 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: On not looking at your statements...
- Replies: 29
- Views: 2110
Re: On not looking at your statements...
I am paperless but look at my balances daily. I don't do anything about it but find it interesting how markets react to the gloom and doom of the day. There is really nothing actionable for me to do so I just watch from the bleachers.
- Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:33 pm
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: U.S. stocks in free fall
- Replies: 21201
- Views: 2876650
Re: U.S. stocks in free fall
How is a 10% drawdown on a 25% stock allocation "decimated "? You might want to check your maths. Decimated in terms of total $$s lost "on paper". The bigger issue to me is that I fear we're looking at a potential 50+% drawdown. CV-19 is going to torpedo the economy like nothing...
- Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:37 am
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Move from bonds to Money Market,CDs, savings acct, etc.?[UPDATE]
- Replies: 98
- Views: 9082
Re: Move from bonds to Money Market,CDs, savings acct, etc.?
Rates have been near zero before. What did you do during 2008-2015? I am asking sincerely. I assume that you were working and didn't think about it too much.
- Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:19 am
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: Murphy's Law Of Retirement
- Replies: 83
- Views: 18314
Re: Murphy's Law Of Retirement
I really believe that sequence of returns risk is an issue if the retiree adheres to a set amount of spending and is not flexible when the market tanks. Having raised four children on one income has shown me that we can live on a lot less than we "make" in retirement. Having zero debt is a...
- Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:20 am
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: U.S. stocks in free fall
- Replies: 21201
- Views: 2876650
Re: U.S. stocks in free fall
Futures are absolutely getting HAMMERED this AM. Down over 800 (!!) just a few minutes ago. Have "recovered" to "only" down 749 :( Man, I picked a really bad time to retire..but at least I don't have to be getting on any airplanes for work travel, so there's that.. I just retire...
- Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:20 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Is it Possible to Opt-out of Fidelity Premium Services?
- Replies: 37
- Views: 4124
Re: Is it Possible to Opt-out of Fidelity Premium Services?
My experience with Fidelity is that they try to gently push their products but cease to do so if you request. Just say no
. I find their approach very non invasive.

- Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:34 pm
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: U.S. stocks in free fall
- Replies: 21201
- Views: 2876650
Re: U.S. stocks in free fall
Now would be as good a time as any. Age? Years to retirement? Any fixed income requirements? Fidelity equivalent is FXKAX....but not advising you what to do. Thanks! Low 40s, probably 2-5 years from retirement. Figuring on ~$130,000/year in retirement, should have ~$5.5mil invested Nice...you have ...
- Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:14 pm
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: U.S. stocks in free fall
- Replies: 21201
- Views: 2876650
Re: U.S. stocks in free fall
Now would be as good a time as any. Age? Years to retirement? Any fixed income requirements?
Fidelity equivalent is FXKAX....but not advising you what to do.
- Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:39 am
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: Lost 23K on Monday
- Replies: 97
- Views: 9295
Re: Lost 23K on Monday
While rolling over my wife's employer 401k to a traditional rollover IRA, we were in a cash position on Monday when the S&P went up about 5%. We sold at the Friday end of day price and then reinvested into similar assets on Monday end of day. My wife thinks that that we really lost about $23K +...
- Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:12 am
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: The 100% Stock Portfolio
- Replies: 12
- Views: 1824
Re: The 100% Stock Portfolio
You still have the luxury of time and can probably weather most storms at your age. As you get older your stamina may weaken.
- Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:18 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: I know I shouldn't sell but...
- Replies: 79
- Views: 8017
Re: I know I shouldn't sell but...
That’s pretty much all due to the fact that rates have gone down so significantly. There’s not much room for rates to go down from here with the 10 year at about 1%, so you’re locking in virtually no yield and have almost no price appreciation upside from rates going down, but plenty of room for ra...
- Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:15 pm
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: Is $1000 worth of 40 shares better than $1000 worth of 10 shares?
- Replies: 30
- Views: 2091
Re: Is $1000 worth of 40 shares better than $1000 worth of 10 shares?
I was wondering why it's better to "buy when shares are on sale". Then I tried doing some math last night. I wondered if having $1000 (of say Total Market Index) total from 40 shares is any better than $1000 total from 10 shares. I mean I would think that owning 40 share would be better t...
- Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:41 pm
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: Money you put in the stock market is NEVER lost?
- Replies: 95
- Views: 3548
Re: Money you put in the stock market is NEVER lost?
OP, sorry we're all jumping on you... Maybe you're talking shares? If you buy $1000 of VOO at 250 a share, you have 4 shares. If it drops $500 in value, you still have 4 shares (but only worth 125 a share now). If you then invest another $500, you now have 8 shares (worth 125 a share) As you keep b...
- Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:07 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: What do you have in your Roth (or Tax Advantaged) accounts?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 1022
- Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:41 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Thinking about (temporarily) moving all *retirement* stock to bonds - please help
- Replies: 292
- Views: 25727
Re: Thinking about (temporarily) moving all *retirement* stock to bonds - please help
This thread needs to be locked for archival purposes. Clearly it has run its course.
- Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:41 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: I know I shouldn't sell but...
- Replies: 79
- Views: 8017
Re: I know I shouldn't sell but...
A better question is how does anyone get comfortable buying bonds right now? Seems a whole lot scarier than buying equities. BND has a yield around 2% - that is akin to paying 50x earnings for a product that can't grow its earnings. The stock market is trading at 18.9x 2020 earnings assuming no gro...
- Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:14 am
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: My data doesn't match the consensus. What am I missing?
- Replies: 44
- Views: 2685
Re: My data doesn't match the consensus. What am I missing?
You are talking about $7K difference in value. What happens when you accumulate substantially more and some down years happen? Who will be more ahead then? You or your adviser? Where is the adviser charge in your data? What funds are represented by the numbers above? Stocks? Mutual funds? What is t...
- Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:38 am
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: My data doesn't match the consensus. What am I missing?
- Replies: 44
- Views: 2685
Re: My data doesn't match the consensus. What am I missing?
You are talking about $7K difference in value. What happens when you accumulate substantially more and some down years happen? Who will be more ahead then? You or your adviser? Where is the adviser charge in your data? What funds are represented by the numbers above? Stocks? Mutual funds? What is t...
- Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:18 am
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: My data doesn't match the consensus. What am I missing?
- Replies: 44
- Views: 2685
Re: My data doesn't match the consensus. What am I missing?
You are talking about $7K difference in value. What happens when you accumulate substantially more and some down years happen? Who will be more ahead then? You or your adviser? Where is the adviser charge in your data? What funds are represented by the numbers above? Stocks? Mutual funds? What is th...
- Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:34 am
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: Is this the start of the dead cat bounce?
- Replies: 147
- Views: 11859
Re: Is this the start of the dead cat bounce?
I am sure Schrödinger has something to do with this.
- Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:59 am
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: I know I shouldn't sell but...
- Replies: 79
- Views: 8017
Re: I know I shouldn't sell but...
A better question is how does anyone get comfortable buying bonds right now? Seems a whole lot scarier than buying equities. BND has a yield around 2% - that is akin to paying 50x earnings for a product that can't grow its earnings. The stock market is trading at 18.9x 2020 earnings assuming no gro...
- Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:33 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Thinking about (temporarily) moving all *retirement* stock to bonds - please help
- Replies: 292
- Views: 25727
Re: Thinking about (temporarily) moving all *retirement* stock to bonds - please help
I don't ignore the noise, I welcome it as a "buy" signal (in addition to the monthly/annual contributions already being made) "BE GREEDY WHEN OTHERS ARE FEARFUL ... AND FEARFUL WHEN OTHERS ARE GREEDY" -Mr. Buffet So, did you follow Buffet's advice today and sell stocks to buy bo...
- Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:27 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: I know I shouldn't sell but...
- Replies: 79
- Views: 8017
Re: I know I shouldn't sell but...
No......
- Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:49 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: I know I shouldn't sell but...
- Replies: 79
- Views: 8017
Re: I know I shouldn't sell but...
A better question is how does anyone get comfortable buying bonds right now? Seems a whole lot scarier than buying equities. BND has a yield around 2% - that is akin to paying 50x earnings for a product that can't grow its earnings. The stock market is trading at 18.9x 2020 earnings assuming no gro...
- Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:02 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Question about bonds AA
- Replies: 19
- Views: 904
Re: Question about bonds AA
This is a good article to read... ala Rick Ferri. Note chart 2
https://www.etf.com/sections/index-inve ... nopaging=1
https://www.etf.com/sections/index-inve ... nopaging=1
- Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:01 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Question about bonds AA
- Replies: 19
- Views: 904
Re: Question about bonds AA
This is a good article to read... Ala Rick Ferri
https://www.etf.com/sections/index-inve ... nopaging=1
https://www.etf.com/sections/index-inve ... nopaging=1