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by peskypesky
Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:42 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Why is the market up today?
Replies: 25
Views: 2265

Re: Why is the market up today?

HomerJ wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:31 pm
t00sl0w wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:28 pm
the market is so disconnected from reality its insane.

Everyone I know is suffering from either already being laid off/furloughed or is heading that way and at this point we have no end in sight in this country.
There is an end in sight.
:oops:
by peskypesky
Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:33 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: U.S. stocks in free fall
Replies: 18835
Views: 2632361

Re: U.S. stocks in free fall

I think the "U.S stocks in free fall" and the "U.S. stocks soar" threads should be merged.
by peskypesky
Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:29 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Market is irrational
Replies: 56
Views: 5045

Re: Market is irrational

Seasonal wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:08 pm
Phineas J. Whoopee wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:05 pm
I get the whole fashionable cynicism thing, but facts are facts.

PJW
Alas, we appear to be in a post-fact world.
Is that a fact?
by peskypesky
Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:07 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: U.S. stocks continue to soar!
Replies: 5725
Views: 489262

Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

They spend money on goods and services from publicly-traded companies, both as consumers and as businesses. The market doesn't care. That decreased spending can be replaced at whim by the Fed with bailout money. You mean the Treasury, not the Fed. If you're going to promote conspiracy theories, at ...
by peskypesky
Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:03 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: U.S. stocks continue to soar!
Replies: 5725
Views: 489262

Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

The market doesn't care. That decreased spending can be replaced at whim by the Fed with bailout money. You mean the Treasury, not the Fed. If you're going to promote conspiracy theories, at least get the details right. There are going to be a lot less posts on this forum if that is one of the crit...
by peskypesky
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:53 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: U.S. stocks continue to soar!
Replies: 5725
Views: 489262

Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

They are not publicly traded, so the market could care less about them. They spend money on goods and services from publicly-traded companies, both as consumers and as businesses. The market doesn't care. That decreased spending can be replaced at whim by the Fed with bailout money. You mean the Tr...
by peskypesky
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:53 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: U.S. stocks continue to soar!
Replies: 5725
Views: 489262

Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

They are not publicly traded, so the market could care less about them. They spend money on goods and services from publicly-traded companies, both as consumers and as businesses. The market doesn't care. That decreased spending can be replaced at whim by the Fed with bailout money. You mean the Tr...
by peskypesky
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:38 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Is Kostohryz right?
Replies: 30
Views: 2314

Re: Another massive decline is coming - Sounds logical or ‘nobody knows nothing’ ?

https://seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4334820-next-leg-down-another-massive-decline-is-coming The problem with his prediction is that it has now been proven that the Fed and US government can step in at any time and prop up the market with trillions of dollars. Unlimited supplies of trillions of dol...
by peskypesky
Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:54 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: U.S. stocks continue to soar!
Replies: 5725
Views: 489262

Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

drk wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:52 pm
peskypesky wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:37 pm
They are not publicly traded, so the market could care less about them.
They spend money on goods and services from publicly-traded companies, both as consumers and as businesses.
The market doesn't care.

That decreased spending can be replaced at whim by the Fed with bailout money.
by peskypesky
Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:52 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Is Kostohryz right?
Replies: 30
Views: 2314

Re: Another massive decline is coming - Sounds logical or ‘nobody knows nothing’ ?

https://seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4334820-next-leg-down-another-massive-decline-is-coming The problem with his prediction is that it has now been proven that the Fed and US government can step in at any time and prop up the market with trillions of dollars. Unlimited supplies of trillions of dol...
by peskypesky
Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:39 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: U.S. stocks continue to soar!
Replies: 5725
Views: 489262

Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

more upsides are coming because of FOMO money. Or maybe just because everyone is seeing this for what it is: a short term aberration in the market due to the economy being "paused". Start preparing for new headlines along the lines of "This isn't going to be as bad as we thought", and cue the outra...
by peskypesky
Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:37 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: U.S. stocks continue to soar!
Replies: 5725
Views: 489262

Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

Large companies might be able to just restart like nothings happened, but mom & pop businesses are on life support. They haven't died en mass yet, but unless people start buying again, we're going to go the way of the dinosaur. They are not publicly traded, so the market could care less about them....
by peskypesky
Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:28 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Market is irrational
Replies: 56
Views: 5045

Re: Market is irrational

The expectation is that no matter how terrible the situation gets, gov will just print more money and bail out all. I even read that fed may start buying stocks! There is no risk in the markets now! :sharebeer Yes, there will be no risk in stocks going forward. Yet miraculously there will be big pr...
by peskypesky
Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:03 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Market is irrational
Replies: 56
Views: 5045

Re: Market is irrational

Trying to understand the market at this level is a fools errand. One of the advantages of being a Boglehead is that you can completely ignore these types of things and still retire rich. Maybe, or maybe not... At some point, if the market gets too distorted and reliant on the Fed and other governme...
by peskypesky
Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:01 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Market is irrational
Replies: 56
Views: 5045

Re: Market is irrational

It's all planned economy now. The market is at the level that the Party says it is at. 5 year plan - achieve 15% annual S&P 500 growth rate! this seems true. No matter what happens, financial crisis, pendemic, whatever...there's an easy market fix. Fed just pumps trillions into economy and all is w...
by peskypesky
Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:54 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Coronavirus and the market
Replies: 3949
Views: 296879

Re: Coronavirus and the market

I am market timing today. Because I think the coronavirus misery will be over much sooner than most people think, I moved a significant sum of money from cash/bonds to stocks. I might be making a big mistake, but here's my thinking: In mid February I thought the market was going to be hit hard by c...
by peskypesky
Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:49 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Coronavirus and the market
Replies: 3949
Views: 296879

Re: Coronavirus and the market

The market has shrugged off the coronavirus and we're back on the way up. All losses will be erased by the end of the week. It makes little sense to me, unless the market has just decided that the loss of a lot of elderly people really doesn't affect the economy negatively. Which is possibly just t...
by peskypesky
Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:47 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Market is irrational
Replies: 56
Views: 5045

Re: Market is irrational

It's all planned economy now. The market is at the level that the Party says it is at. 5 year plan - achieve 15% annual S&P 500 growth rate! this seems true. No matter what happens, financial crisis, pendemic, whatever...there's an easy market fix. Fed just pumps trillions into economy and all is w...
by peskypesky
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:10 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Coronavirus and the market
Replies: 3949
Views: 296879

Re: Coronavirus and the market

The market has shrugged off the coronavirus and we're back on the way up. All losses will be erased by the end of the week. It makes little sense to me, unless the market has just decided that the loss of a lot of elderly people really doesn't affect the economy negatively. Which is possibly just t...
by peskypesky
Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:53 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Coronavirus and the market
Replies: 3949
Views: 296879

Re: Coronavirus and the market

The market has shrugged off the coronavirus and we're back on the way up. All losses will be erased by the end of the week. It makes little sense to me, unless the market has just decided that the loss of a lot of elderly people really doesn't affect the economy negatively. Which is possibly just th...
by peskypesky
Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:38 am
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: U.S. stocks continue to soar!
Replies: 5725
Views: 489262

Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

Up up and away!! The market has overcome its case of covid-19!
by peskypesky
Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:00 am
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: U.S. stocks continue to soar!
Replies: 5725
Views: 489262

Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

J G Bankerton wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:03 am
S&P futures up .6% at this point in time. That darn cat keeps bouncing. :greedy
I'm starting to think we'll be back at record highs very soon. It makes no sense, with everything that's going on...but really, when did the market ever make sense?
by peskypesky
Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:42 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Coronavirus and the market
Replies: 3949
Views: 296879

Re: Coronavirus and the market

Seems like all the discussion about DCA should be on a separate thread.

I'm sure there already is a DCA topic thread.
by peskypesky
Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:23 am
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: U.S. stocks continue to soar!
Replies: 5725
Views: 489262

Re: New Bull Market!

I think the bull market was short-lived.
by peskypesky
Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:13 am
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Coronavirus and the market
Replies: 3949
Views: 296879

Re: Coronavirus and the market

Boris Johnson tests positive.
On top of all the other bad news, I think we are headed for a drop. As I predicted.
by peskypesky
Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:48 am
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: U.S. stocks in free fall
Replies: 18835
Views: 2632361

Re: U.S. stocks in free fall

Boris Johnson tests positive.

Methinks the markets may not take kindly to that.
by peskypesky
Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:34 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: So bottom is probably behind us....right?
Replies: 709
Views: 63134

Re: So bottom is probably behind us....right?

yeah or if the Fed and US Government catches the dead cat, quickly puts it into an oversized T-shirt cannon and then shoots it straight up in the air again Flubber Cat bottom was in 100 years ago. If you invested 10K in a diversified folio 100 years ago and never sell during market correction. Go f...
by peskypesky
Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:32 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: So bottom is probably behind us....right?
Replies: 709
Views: 63134

Re: So bottom is probably behind us....right?

ThereAreNoGurus wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:54 pm
palanzo wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:40 pm
ThereAreNoGurus wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:56 pm
k1982 wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:46 pm
dead cat bounce
Never seen a dead animal bounce that high. Looks like it has some lively legs. :D
All depends on how high you drop it :D
And it happens to land on a trampoline... sheesh... :o
and you're on the moon, where gravity is a lot less than Earth?
by peskypesky
Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:41 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: U.S. stocks continue to soar!
Replies: 5725
Views: 489262

Re: Something Can't Be Right

[This topic has been merged into the existing thread "U.S. stocks continue to soar!" Moderator Misenplace] I'm not sure I understand this.. unemployment figures just released show the biggest sudden filing for unemployment in the US in a single week, almost in the entire history of the country. 3.3...
by peskypesky
Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:34 am
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: So bottom is probably behind us....right?
Replies: 709
Views: 63134

Re: So bottom is probably behind us....right?

As I've written before, more than once, there's no way we can be at the bottom with the amount of denial and delusion that you find even here, on a forum where most people are literate and fairly well-informed. Just today, the US surged with 10,000 new cases and took third place in the world...and ...
by peskypesky
Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:41 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: So bottom is probably behind us....right?
Replies: 709
Views: 63134

Re: So bottom is probably behind us....right?

As I've written before, more than once, there's no way we can be at the bottom with the amount of denial and delusion that you find even here, on a forum where most people are literate and fairly well-informed. Just today, the US surged with 10,000 new cases and took third place in the world...and s...
by peskypesky
Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:31 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: So bottom is probably behind us....right?
Replies: 709
Views: 63134

Re: So bottom is probably behind us....right?

Definitely bearish on the near term prospects. Anyone who wants to talk about the "wisdom of the markets" needs to explain how "the market" was completely oblivious to the oncoming threat of the coronavirus to the US and world economy. All the warning lights were flashing red and yet stocks continu...
by peskypesky
Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:55 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: So bottom is probably behind us....right?
Replies: 709
Views: 63134

Re: So bottom is probably behind us....right?

I'm not sure how we could have already hit the bottom when the pandemic is just really getting started in several of the biggest economies on the planet. We easily could have. The market is forward looking. It doesn't always react to what happened. It reacts to what it thinks will happen. It rose r...
by peskypesky
Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:43 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Coronavirus and the market
Replies: 3949
Views: 296879

Re: Coronavirus and the market

With regard to energy production. I am sitting in my living room watching windmills spinning in the hills near my home. It occured to me those windmills are going to spin without much babysitting. Understand there is some level of routine ops. and maint. but I wonder what that level is vs a typical...
by peskypesky
Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:39 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: So bottom is probably behind us....right?
Replies: 709
Views: 63134

Re: So bottom is probably behind us....right?

I'm not sure how we could have already hit the bottom when the pandemic is just really getting started in several of the biggest economies on the planet. We easily could have. The market is forward looking. It doesn't always react to what happened. It reacts to what it thinks will happen. It rose r...
by peskypesky
Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:36 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: U.S. stocks in free fall
Replies: 18835
Views: 2632361

Re: U.S. stocks in free fall

Nobody’s mentioned that futures are UP about 4%. I think that today’s close was the bottom. 2237 on the S&P. You heard it here first. Yer a brave man, ol' Stinky! :beer I took a screen shot of your post and saved it. It may come in handy later. On a completely unrelated note, do you happen to like ...
by peskypesky
Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:42 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: U.S. stocks continue to soar!
Replies: 5725
Views: 489262

Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

LiterallyIronic wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:30 pm
peskypesky wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:36 pm
MotoTrojan wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:09 pm
Futures up!
Not anymore!

The dead cat bounced today....but tomorrow?
Up 5% more.
Stimulus package goosing the market up. We'll see if how long the market remains optimistic. I don't see how it can, with the onlslaught of c19, but we shall see.
by peskypesky
Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:22 am
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: U.S. stocks in free fall
Replies: 18835
Views: 2632361

Re: U.S. stocks in free fall

Yesterday's rally seems played out already. Futures are down and the bad news keeps increasing...so I'm expecting we keep on dropping.
by peskypesky
Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:21 am
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: U.S. stocks continue to soar!
Replies: 5725
Views: 489262

Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

mrspock wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:55 am
Get ready to make some moolah tomorrow morning everyone! Futures are up 2% for the DOW, 1% for the S&P.
You were saying?
by peskypesky
Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:20 am
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: So bottom is probably behind us....right?
Replies: 709
Views: 63134

Re: So bottom is probably behind us....right?

I'm not sure how we could have already hit the bottom when the pandemic is just really getting started in several of the biggest economies on the planet.
by peskypesky
Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:18 am
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Coronavirus and the market
Replies: 3949
Views: 296879

Re: Coronavirus and the market

nps wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:57 am
APX32 wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:28 pm
To be honest, it’s not that hard to make money in this kind of environment if you have a play account.
That's an interesting concept. If it's not that hard to make money, why limit it to a play account?
He didn't say "a lot of money". Maybe he's just talking about a couple of dollars.
by peskypesky
Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:55 am
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Coronavirus and the market
Replies: 3949
Views: 296879

Re: Coronavirus and the market

Now Prince Charles has it.
And Jackson Browne.

Louisiana is being overwhelmed already. And so is New York.

Germany's health minister said they're just at the "beginning".

And people think the market had this all priced in? :oops:

Yesterday's rally will be short-lived IMO.
by peskypesky
Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:38 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Inflation
Replies: 63
Views: 4693

Re: Inflation

Ramjet wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:57 pm
Closer2323 wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:23 pm
With this massive bailout in the works what are your thoughts on the likely impact on inflation?
That's the million dollar question
I think you mean "trillion dollar question."
by peskypesky
Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:20 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: U.S. stocks in free fall
Replies: 18835
Views: 2632361

Re: U.S. stocks in free fall

Very interesting but what should Goldilocks do? She enjoyed today's soup, it made the VOO soup she bought for 220.22 on December 27, 2018 profitable +1.63%. Not as profitable as the VOO soup she bought for 201 on March 23, 2020 +11.32%. * Should she buy sell or hold? All the VOO soup in between is ...
by peskypesky
Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:42 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Coronavirus and the market
Replies: 3949
Views: 296879

Re: Coronavirus and the market

watchnerd wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:03 pm
willthrill81 wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:00 pm


It's actually surprising to me to hear how many seasoned posters have been quick to decry today's spike as illogical and obviously a dead cat bounce.
I'm not following...what's surprising about people saying it's a dead cat bounce?
Nothing.
by peskypesky
Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:36 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: U.S. stocks continue to soar!
Replies: 5725
Views: 489262

Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

MotoTrojan wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:09 pm
Futures up!
Not anymore!

The dead cat bounced today....but tomorrow?
by peskypesky
Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:44 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Coronavirus and the market
Replies: 3949
Views: 296879

Re: Coronavirus and the market

The amount of denial on this thread is proof we are not at the bottom. What some non-scientific sampling of retail investors thinks is never 'proof' of anything, on this issue or any other. It's always been extremely difficult to relate anecdotal impressions of 'people's' opinions to market prices....
by peskypesky
Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:42 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: U.S. stocks in free fall
Replies: 18835
Views: 2632361

Re: U.S. stocks in free fall

Looks like the bears are getting a little scared around 2200, because that looming 2100 where there is much more support. It will be interesting to see if the bears are brave enough to take it to 2100. They know there's going to be a massive pop to the upside where the bear algo boxes go nuts and s...
by peskypesky
Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:27 pm
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Todays +10 percent gain from QE?
Replies: 52
Views: 3885

Re: Todays +10 percent gain from QE?

dead cat bounce