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If you could have only one fund, what would it be?

 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:06 pm    Post subject: If you could have only one fund, what would it be? Reply with quote

Curious. If you could only have one fund, what would it be? I know it's somewhat unrealistic, but with so many people asking for suggestions about portfolios with numerous funds, I wondered what they would choose if they could only have one? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wellington
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vanguard's Target Retirement Income Fund would be my choice.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming fund of funds is not allowed, go with Wellesley or Wellington depending on whether you're more conservative or more aggressive. If fund of funds is allowed, then could go with one of the Target Retirement funds or maybe STAR.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If just one equity fund - Vanguard Mid Cap Value.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would need to be a Vanguard Target retirement fund. No other could be diversified enough, adapt as I age, and have low fees (unless I had access to some great collective trust fund that was also a target retirement fund).

That said, given I have access to many funds, why let someone else have all the fun? I brew my own.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vanguard Target Retirement fund would also be my choice. However I really am a fan of Wellington. Wellington would be a close second
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Target Fund because it changes its bond allocation as you age.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oakmark Equity & Income.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vanguard Total Stock Market Index
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was in a tax advantaged account and had to be held forever,Life Strategy Moderate even with the "notorious" AA fund component. A TR fund if allowed to change after the accumulation stage.TSM if in a taxable account.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd go again with the first one I invested in as I intended it to be a core holding and it has served me well: T. Rowe Price Capital Appreciation.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A global balanced fund -- a global version of the domestically-centered VBINX. Vanguard does not have such a fund, so I would be faced with the problem of finding one that has a low ER and is not a "world allocation" fund disguised as global balanced (I don't like world allocation funds for the same reason I don't like asset allocation funds -- the fund manager gets to decide the percentages allocated to the various asset classes, and I prefer the fixed target percentages of a balanced fund). I would be sad to have my only fund not be a Vanguard one, but the benefit of global diversification is, IMO, worth paying a somewhat higher ER for.

Does anyone know of a good global balanced fund ? I looked at Fidelity's FGBLX but its ER is 1.13% and it looks too actively managed for my taste. I currently construct my own globally balanced portfolio using mostly Vanguard index funds (but Vanguard's dogmatic opposition to some asset classes means I have to go elsewhere for global bonds, global real estate, and global commodity stocks).

Edit added after reading other posts: The funds that target a retirement date are too domestically centered for me, and retirement is far enough that I do not yet have to worry about shifting my allocation over time.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emerging Markets. Since I enjoy the thrill of a roller coaster Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only one fund? I could pick one for different investor ages; however, without that criteria, it would be the appropriate Target Retirement fund for my present risk tolerance.
I still like Wellesley, though, plus at my age, mix that with Target Income for additional diversification.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wellington
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wellington
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mel Lindauer wrote:
Vanguard's Target Retirement Income Fund would be my choice.


Mel,
Isn't the issue with these types of funds that if you are investing it in a taxable account, it is somewhat tax inefficient? After all, with 45% of the fund in TBM it is somewhat wasteful to have that in a fully taxable account. The converse concept is also true about wasting tax advantaged space on growth funds. As has been often mentioned on this forum, it probably makes more sense to buy these funds seperately and place them into the appropriate accounts. Of course, the poster asked for "the one fund"...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only one equity fund? Total World Index.
Only one bond fund? Total Bond Index.
Having really ONLY one fund? I'd probably go with one of Vanguard's TR funds...maybe even Wellington or Wellesley as I got older.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be Vanguard's Target Retirement Income for me based on my ability, willingness and need to take risk.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking the same thing. I stray a bit but ideally 50% Wellselley/ 50% Wellington/ 100% would be a TR fund.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't beat Wellesley.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Vanguard global balanced fund (or fund–of–funds) composed of

•40% Vanguard Global Equity (which is actively managed and somewhat value–tilted) or Total World Stock Index

•60% bonds, restricted to TIPS/GNMA/nominal Treasury (i.e., only "full faith and credit" government bonds). And, if Vanguard should ever offer an international bond fund composed mainly of foreign government obligations, a dash of that, too.

Except for the international bonds, this can, of course, be assembled by any investor from existing Vanguard funds––but not with a single $3000 opening minimum investment, and not with the same degree of continuously rebalancing/all–in–one convenience.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wellington for now and Wellesley for later.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Target Retirement Income.

(But no argument at all with those who prefer Wellington and Wellesley).

It's actually pretty weird: my homebrew portfolio is really within striking distance of the composition of Target Retirement Income. But I have the illusion of a meaningful difference, notably a much higher commitment to TIPS, and if I did a "total makeover" to Target Retirement Income-plus-outriggers I'd have almost as many mutual funds as I do now.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wellington.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snodog wrote:
You can't beat Wellesley.
Isn't that why its ticker symbol is vWINx? Very Happy

I'm going to be a mischievous troublemaker here. Gold is not for me. Not by itself, not in a Harry Browne Permanent Portfolio, not in the Permanent Portfolio fund (PRPFX, 0.84% ER). But listening to craigr and others on the form has certainly encouraged me to poke my nose around. And you know what? Just sayin'... past performance, yadda-yadda-yadda, but doesn't this chart start the old oxygen flowing to the parts of the brain that govern irrational behavior?

VBINX = Vanguard Balanced Index = what I have.
VWINX = Wellesley = aw, gee, what I coulda had. Crying or Very sad
VWELX = Wellington. Or is it the other way around? These "Wel-" funds, I never can get 'em straight in my mind. Oh well, doesn't matter, the two curves are close enough anyway. Very Happy
PRPFX = Permanent Portfolio Funds, Inc. "Permanent Portfolio" fund, $3.4 billion assets under management, OMG, look at THAT, I coulda been rich, RICH I tell you, noooooooooo!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fletch wrote:
It would be Vanguard's Target Retirement Income for me based on my ability, willingness and need to take risk.



Ditto.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ilan1h wrote:
Mel Lindauer wrote:
Vanguard's Target Retirement Income Fund would be my choice.


Mel,
Isn't the issue with these types of funds that if you are investing it in a taxable account, it is somewhat tax inefficient? After all, with 45% of the fund in TBM it is somewhat wasteful to have that in a fully taxable account. The converse concept is also true about wasting tax advantaged space on growth funds. As has been often mentioned on this forum, it probably makes more sense to buy these funds seperately and place them into the appropriate accounts. Of course, the poster asked for "the one fund"...


Obviously we always preach tax-efficiency (bonds in your tax-deferred and tax-efficient equity funds in your taxable account). You're certainly correct that the TR Income fund doesn't fit that pattern.

However, this is a hypothetical (only can own one fund). And, if the retiree who owned TR Income fund was living off the distributions, then tax-efficiency isn't a factor.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:41 pm    Post subject: single fund Reply with quote

I have struggled with the choice between Wellsley and Target Retirement Income. It is extremely difficult to chose against Wellsley given its remarkable long term performance. Negatives would be active management (although its been great so far!) and relatively small number of equities. Given the current economic situation, the unbelievable amt of money the government is throwing around, and the high liklihood of inflation in the future, TRI would get the nod with its 20% TIPS allocation. The way things are playing out in my portfolio its looking like it will be split between the two, with Wellsley getting about 40% and TRI 60%. Plan on sleeping great with these two funds. Simple and keeps me from tinkering with a slice and dice approach. Regards, Peter
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wasatch microcap value Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given my age, Wellesley.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nisiprius Optimum Blended Universal Index Fund

No second choice.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An ETF that holds Peruvian bonds.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:19 pm    Post subject: I have been watching these 2 for years.... Reply with quote

And i finally bought into them VTSMX and VFINX
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vanguard Dividend Appreciation (VIG or VDAIX) if passive....VIG is 40% of my allocation.

Longleaf Partners (LLPFX) if active.
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Permanent Portfolio Fund (PRPFX)
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For several years I used the target retirement type fund in my Federal TSP retirement account, my wife needed one fund and I steered her to....Wellesley. Easy to explain ad easy to live with.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wellington or D&C Balanced
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