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Ex-dividend date?

 
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TenS2XS



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:45 pm    Post subject: Ex-dividend date? Reply with quote

If you own shares of a stock on or past the ex-dividend date, but sell those shares before the dividend pay date, do you still receive the dividend?
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mfen



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is the record date that determines your dividends. Shareholder of record date are paid. Ex date is after record date. Embarassed moment of senior confusion, my mistake
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pshonore



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mfen wrote:
It is the record date that determines your dividends. Shareholder of record date are paid. Ex date is after record date.

Not quite - you must own the stock at the close of business on the day prior to the ex-dividend date in order to get the payment. Ex-dividend literally means without the dividend.

Since it takes two business days to trnasfer ownership, the record date is generally two business days after the ex-div date.

From the SEC website:

"Once the company sets the record date, the stock exchanges or the National Association of Securities Dealers, Inc. fix the ex-dividend date. The ex-dividend date is normally set for stocks two business days before the record date. If you purchase a stock on its ex-dividend date or after, you will not receive the next dividend payment. Instead, the seller gets the dividend. If you purchase before the ex-dividend date, you get the dividend."
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JDCPAEsq



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mfen wrote:
It is the record date that determines your dividends. Shareholder of record date are paid. Ex date is after record date.


You have it reversed. You must own the stock on the ex-dividend date to get the dividend. Record date is not applicable.
John
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DSInvestor



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's something from SEC "Ex-Dividend Dates: When Are You Entitled to Stock and Cash Dividends":
http://www.sec.gov/answers/dividen.htm
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pshonore



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JDCPAEsq wrote:
mfen wrote:
It is the record date that determines your dividends. Shareholder of record date are paid. Ex date is after record date.


You have it reversed. You must own the stock on the ex-dividend date to get the dividend. Record date is not applicable.
John
Incorrect - read the quote from the SEC in my post. If you buy on the ex-date you will an owner on the company books one day AFTER the record date.
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JDCPAEsq



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pshonore wrote:
JDCPAEsq wrote:
mfen wrote:
It is the record date that determines your dividends. Shareholder of record date are paid. Ex date is after record date.


You have it reversed. You must own the stock on the ex-dividend date to get the dividend. Record date is not applicable.
John
Incorrect - read the quote from the SEC in my post. If you buy on the ex-date you will an (sic) owner on the company books one day AFTER the record date.


I'm talking about the seller per the question posed by the OP. Thanks for attempting to quickly correct me, however. After majoring in corporate law, I'm reasonably familiar with the terminology.
John
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