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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:51 pm    Post subject: Do you have a 'bucket list'? Reply with quote

The weekend is upon us and some day dreaming may be in order. Does anyone on the board have a bucket list that they'd like to share. If not the whole list, then perhaps the top two choices. ( For the younger Bogleheads, a 'bucket list' is a list of things you really want to do before you kick the bucket.)

My two choices, (1. Having never been to Yankee Stadium or Fenway, I'd like to see a game at each, and take the train from NYC to Boston. (2. See at least ten West End plays in London on ten consecutive days.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just live each day to its fullest. Then you dont need a list.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1)Go backcountry hiking in the mountains with hubby.
2)European vacation with hubby
3)Hawaiian vacation with hubby
4)Alaskan vacation with hubby
5)Anywhere with hubby...

I'm a little like a broken record, but truly I'm looking forward to travel and more quality time together when life isn't so busy and we feel financially set. We're getting some travel in now but the big ticket trips not yet. Need to stay healthy and save so we can get there some day. Amanda
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I used to lurk here IIRC there was a thread like this..........I've found the older people get the more ingrained their lifestyle becomes=(My parents) Everyones diffrent, I like to do everything I can whilst im still on this planet. I have little "responsiability" to anyone other than them, im sure contributes to this mindset. I've always pushed the envelope,............unfortunately..I hear its in ones DNA/Genes so I cannot help it, except to recognize it and reign it in. Embarassed Back OT ......NO I believe I've done all I want except break the go "below 100ft depth diving pleateau" I cannot do these days anyway. O' well. I'll live!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No formal bucket list, but I do keep telling my DH that we aren't getting any younger and we probably won't feel any better than we do now. So if there are things we want to do, we shouldn't keep putting them off until "someday".
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Do you have a 'bucket list'? Reply with quote

four7s wrote:
The weekend is upon us and some day dreaming may be in order. Does anyone on the board have a bucket list that they'd like to share. If not the whole list, then perhaps the top two choices. ( For the younger Bogleheads, a 'bucket list' is a list of things you really want to do before you kick the bucket.)

My two choices, (1. Having never been to Yankee Stadium or Fenway, I'd like to see a game at each, and take the train from NYC to Boston. (2. See at least ten West End plays in London on ten consecutive days.


I just started a bucket list recently (I am 52). Since I am a baseball fan, my bucket list includes going to a major league game at every single baseball park in North America. This may take a few years, and we would combine the trips with other sightseeing, visiting friends, etc. I have purchased a big coffee table book with the history of each stadium, and I think that will help add more interest to the visits.

Best wishes.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MWCA wrote:
Just live each day to its fullest. Then you dont need a list.


Serious question, how do you accomplish this on day to day basis? I think one need a personality or very high level of motivation to seek the adventure, challenge, excitement, fun to live life to fullest everyday.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MWCA wrote:
Just live each day to its fullest. Then you dont need a list.


I'm with you. I want for nothing and everything I have ever dreamed of has showered upon me in spades. The big surprise is when today, becomes the dream, I didn't even know that I had. It's fun to invent each day, as the sun rises, and I get to choose.

Sorry - no bucket list. I think I out grew this, for once I had a bucket list. I even recall when I thought I should create a new one, once the old one had become obsolete (new goals, new dreams, that sort of thing). Now it doesn't seem to matter anymore. I am content, just to watch each day unfold with curiosity.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Early sixties. Not much of a bucket list. Oh, yeah, I'd like to see some of that parched sculptured Western desert stuff, Monument Valley and so forth, but it's a nice-to-have, not a must-have.

When I saw the movie, what struck me sharply was that the central theme was fulfillment through tourism. Most of the things they were doing were passive activities, requiring no real investment of themselves other than being there.

Life is finite. What do you do with the silly bucket list, try to make one that's exactly the right length? Make one that's too long and feel lousy because you didn't get them all checked off? Make one that's too short and feel at loose ends (if not suicidal) because you've got them checked off and there's nothing left to do?

What my wife and I like to do when we visit a place is hunker down for a couple of weeks and do dumb local stuff. See the little local museums that are open 2-4 p.m. Thursdays and by appointment. When we were in Oregon, we went to see Crater Lake, and the brochure they handed out was "what to do after the the 'wow,'" and we both that the same reaction: the "wow" was basically it. The problem is that we'd seen pictures of Crater Lake all our lives. On the other hand, we were thrilled and delighted by the Rogue Gorge, because we stumbled on it almost by accident and didn't know what to expect. We've seen Niagara Falls, and we've seen Chittenango Falls, and Niagara Falls was great and Chittenango Falls isn't remotely comparable--but Chittenango Falls is lovely and it's ours.

You've just gotta work on appreciating what's around you. You get a nice sunset from time to time right in your backyard. Enjoy watching the blue jays and the robins and don't let anyone spoil it by saying "it's just a robin." Enjoy the spectacular color of a local river filled from bank to bank with purple loosestrife, and so what if it's an invasive species and so what if it's doing terrible things to the ecology, it is darn it beautiful. (No, not "showy," beautiful).

I don't know if I'm going to keep it up, but I've been substitute teaching in the local high school. Oh, boy, it's hard work, and it's aggravating, but I think probably it is more nourishing to the soul than climbing Mt. Monadnock (which, OK, yes, is on my to-do list).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have only one essential "bucket item:" I want to live in Venice, Italy for a full year. Since I work in academe and will-- economy and state budget permitting-- qualify for one more Sabbatical year before I retire, the chances of fulfilling this dream are quite good. Past that, there are lots of "want to" items, but I think the defining element of a bucket item is that it is something you would seriously regret not doing (when you are doing the final tallying).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a few things on my retirement bucket list, some more probable than others.
1. Spend 2-3 months in a language school in France (probable).
2. Participate as a member of a volunteer organization in South America, maybe teach English as a Second Language (probable)
3. Hike the Grand Canyon rim to rim with my daughter and her husband (probable)
4. Visit Antarctica with my wife (less probable, but Argentina and Chile and the Tierra del Fuego are highly likely).
5. Shoot a par round for 18 holes of golf. (This is getting less probable as the years pass.)
6. Get a hole in one. (Improbable - but maybe more probable than a par round!)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nisiprius wrote:
You get a nice sunset from time to time right in your backyard.


"Red sky at night, sailors delight".

We had a nice sunset tonight. It was decades ago, I figured out there was no where "to go" because I was already here. I can't explain that for anything ... but that presence in the now, in the moment -- seems to become clearer and clearer. It is a very nice way of being.

But I don't think it is something explainable to my 20 year old self. That 20 year old self only thought of the next adventure or challenge - as was described earlier in this thread.

I guess in my bucket is an excitement for tomorrow. The sunset tonight told me it will be a beautiful day. I intend on enjoying it.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a list of people I want to hit over the head with a bucket before I die. Does that count?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never been to the Spam Museum...



I'd like to see the National Air Races at Reno sometime...

Take a train through the mountains somewhere in Colorado or New Mexico...

A full week to go through the Smithsonian...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter Foley wrote:
There are a few things on my retirement bucket list, some more probable than others.
1. Spend 2-3 months in a language school in France (probable).
2. Participate as a member of a volunteer organization in South America, maybe teach English as a Second Language (probable)
3. Hike the Grand Canyon rim to rim with my daughter and her husband (probable)
4. Visit Antarctica with my wife (less probable, but Argentina and Chile and the Tierra del Fuego are highly likely).
5. Shoot a par round for 18 holes of golf. (This is getting less probable as the years pass.)
6. Get a hole in one. (Improbable - but maybe more probable than a par round!)


For the "average Joe", easier and more common than bowling a perfect 300 game...
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I've knocked off a bunch of travel buckets from Pitcairn Island to the Antarctic. Yet to be done:

1. Ride the "Silk Road" train from St. Petersburg to Beijing
2. Ride the train from Beijing to Lhasa, Tibet
3. Spend a week at Angkor Wat

After I do these I will add more buckets, but I am running out of time and my wife is running out of health. Do this stuff when you are young.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Space.

I can't wait to take my first commercial space flight and look back on the amazing view of the world from above it all.

Flights on Virgin Galactic are only $200k now and should come down immensely in the next 10-20 years...with deflation and all Wink.

Of course all the "seven wonders" of the world are on the list, but space is a must-have experience before I give it all up...
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Dale_G wrote:
I've knocked off a bunch of travel buckets from Pitcairn Island to the Antarctic. Yet to be done:

1. Ride the "Silk Road" train from St. Petersburg to Beijing
2. Ride the train from Beijing to Lhasa, Tibet
3. Spend a week at Angkor Wat

After I do these I will add more buckets, but I am running out of time and my wife is running out of health. Do this stuff when you are young.

Dale



Dale,

I recently went to Siem Reap and it was one of the most memorable trips I've ever had. Angkor Wat and the rest of Cambodia is amazing. I'd recommend a guide to get the full experience out of the temple visits. Also, take a break from temple-seeing to visit one of the floating villages. These next few months are the best time of year to go.

As far as my bucket list goes...

1. Start a business.
2. Live abroad for as long as I can. There are so many places left to see.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nisiprius: "...I've been substitute teaching in the local high school...snip..but I think probably it is more nourishing to the soul than climbing Mt. Monadnock (which, OK, yes, is on my to-do list)."

I've worked in a high school and have climbed Mt. Monadnock several times. When my daughter and I got to the top the last time, there was a gentleman sitting on a rock sipping a Budweiser. He told us that he ran up every day before work....drank a beer and ran down. I want to go to NH, climb Monadnock, then do some kind of Presidential Range hike that includes Washington. (I really liked working in a high school...never a dull moment...rewarding...exciting...stressful...you know you're alive.)

My list isn't a bucket list, just a vague unwritten list of things that I would do if I got a chance and the cost was reasonable.

Mt. Leconte, TN...1 night in the paid shelter, one night in the free shelter.

Bright Angel Trail, Grand Canyon...down to the lodge...spend a day and come back out.

Monument Valley

Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bharat wrote:
MWCA wrote:
Just live each day to its fullest. Then you dont need a list.


Serious question, how do you accomplish this on day to day basis? I think one need a personality or very high level of motivation to seek the adventure, challenge, excitement, fun to live life to fullest everyday.


Ditto. I think lists and such are good for raising ones awareness, there is no such thing per se as living each day to its fullest, only options of what to do that day. Its easy to get caught up in job, or whatever, and then years have gone by.
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There was a time in my life when, wherever I was, I needed to be at least one other place. My job needed 55 hours a week, my father another 50, including overnights. My grandchildren were coming along during this time, too.

I used to daydream about being at home in the afternoon, the way the light would come in that time of day. I daydreamed about naps, the blanket and pillow... My bucket list was all about the sofa.

Now that I have the time, it turns out that I can't nap, unless I have a fever. But I can be at home in the middle of the day, in the middle of the week, and nobody is expecting me to show up anywhere. I wouldn't trade that for a round-the-world cruise.
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nisiprius wrote:
When I saw the movie, what struck me sharply was that the central theme was fulfillment through tourism. Most of the things they were doing were passive activities, requiring no real investment of themselves other than being there.

When we were in Oregon, we went to see Crater Lake, and the brochure they handed out was "what to do after the the 'wow,'" and we both that the same reaction: the "wow" was basically it. The problem is that we'd seen pictures of Crater Lake all our lives. On the other hand, we were thrilled and delighted by the Rogue Gorge, because we stumbled on it almost by accident and didn't know what to expect.


What movie are you referring to? While traveling is okay, I do always wonder about the idea that somehow ultimate fulfillment will come from carting my body to one place or another.

We saw Crater Lake last summer, despite having seen pictures it still was impressive. However, it really was a park where there was no need to spend more than a day. The Redwoods on the same trip were capable of occupying a bit more time.

Did not see the Rogue gorge that you mentioned, but similarly the Lava Beds, which we knew very little about and were only a "maybe if we have extra time" thing, were a very enjoyable surprise. We also enjoyed a glass of wine at some obscure Oregon winery with a very nice, very large deck to sit out on and enjoy the day...the local tourist office suggested this when we had stopped to basically use the bathroom and mentioned that we might have some extra time.
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I have kept a bucket list since 1976. It's a dynamic list where I record the milestones in my life and the things I'd like to do/accomplish with the rest of my life. There are 68 items on my list, now that I'm older most have been accomplished, but I am adding to the list all the time (and will continue to). It's a good exercise for a goal oriented individual like myself - YMMV. It also prompts me to make sure I do something significant every year at a minimum. You only live once...
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Patchy Groundfog wrote:
There was a time in my life when, wherever I was, I needed to be at least one other place. My job needed 55 hours a week, my father another 50, including overnights. My grandchildren were coming along during this time, too.

I used to daydream about being at home in the afternoon, the way the light would come in that time of day. I daydreamed about naps, the blanket and pillow... My bucket list was all about the sofa.

Now that I have the time, it turns out that I can't nap, unless I have a fever. But I can be at home in the middle of the day, in the middle of the week, and nobody is expecting me to show up anywhere. I wouldn't trade that for a round-the-world cruise.


This is similar to I think what drives my decision making today. My husband calls it procrastination, but I think I am reacting to the work world I once knew. For decades, it was always "what do I have to do?" and if for some reason, there wasn't anything I had to do, the next question was "what should I do?". I, today - balk at anything scheduled.

My happiness is not the afternoon sunlight, or the sofa ... but rather the endless pleasure I find in being able to ask the question "what do I want to do?" and that is what I do. Any "have to's or should do's" I simply don't want in my life, including basics like needing to go to the grocery store - so I procrastinate.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

- so I procrastinate. neverknow...

I think that your on to something! I used to work hard when I got a minute of spare time...now I procrasinate. My wife and I have the same disease.
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jeffyscott wrote:
What movie are you [nisiprius] referring to?


I assume nisiprius was referring to The Bucket List, starring Morgan Freeman and Jack Nicholson.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bucket_List

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Dear Ann Landers: In July of 1985 my wife was diagnosed as having terminal cancer. Shortly afterward, your column on the Station by R. J. Hastings appeared in Newsday.

For years, we had talked of "someday" going to Paris, a city I fell in love with as a GI. The day after I read the poem, I realized that it was time to pull into the "station".

As soon as the doctor OK'd the trip, we went to Paris and had the most beautiful vacation of our 43 years. My lovely wife passed away a year and half after the diagnosis.

I have since taken the liberty of passing copies of that column to friends. One purchased his "someday" car, another went on a long-delayed trip. But it can also mean visiting a sick friend - and that "someday" should be now.

There is so much hurt in looking back and remembering those things we intended to do and didn't.

Thank you, Ann Landers, for Paris - Irv Gaiptman, Plainview, N.Y.

Dear Irv: You were dear to let me know what "The Station" meant to your life. Here it is for all the others who haven't as yet learned that lesson:

The Station
by Robert J. Hastings

Tucked away in our subconscious is an idyllic vision. We see ourselves on a long trip that spans the continent. We are traveling by train. Out the windows we drink in the passing scene of cars on nearby highways, of children waving at a crossing, of cattle grazing on a distant hillside, of smoke pouring from a power plant, of row upon row of corn and wheat, of flatlands and valleys, of mountains and rolling hillsides, of city skylines and village halls.

But uppermost in our minds is the final destination. On a certain day at a certain hour we will pull into the station. Bands will be playing and flags waving. Once we get there, so many wonderful dreams will come true and the pieces of our lives will fit together like a completed jigsaw puzzle. How restlessly we pace the aisles, damning the minutes for loitering - waiting, waiting, waiting for the station.

"When we reach the station, that will be it!" we cry. "When I'm 18." "When I buy a new 450SL Mercedes Benz!" "When I put the last kid through college." "When I have paid off the mortgage!" "When I get a promotion." "When I reach the age of retirement, I shall live happily ever after!"

Sooner or later we must realize there is no station, no one place to arrive at once and for all. The true joy of life is the trip. The station is only a dream. It constantly outdistances us.

"Relish the moment" is a good motto, especially when coupled with Palm 118:24: "This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it." It isn't the burdens of today that drive men mad. It is the regrets over yesterday and the fear of tomorrow. Regret and fear are twin thieves who rob us of today.

So, stop pacing the aisles and counting the miles. Instead, climb more mountains, eat more ice cream, go barefoot more often, swim more rivers, watch more sunsets, laugh more, cry less. Life must be lived as we go along. The station will come soon enough.
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1) Get my wife interested in riding a tandem bike so we can do some touring.

2) Get her interested in riding a single bike.

3) Teach her to appreciate football.
As an aside, I mentioned this to her and she replied that she already understood football.
I asked her to explain a 1st down and her answer was priceless.

"It's the 1st time someone gets knocked down"
I think I am going to give up on this.
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MarcMyWord wrote:
jeffyscott wrote:
What movie are you [nisiprius] referring to?
I assume nisiprius was referring to The Bucket List, starring Morgan Freeman and Jack Nicholson.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bucket_List
Yes. It had its moments but it was annoying. There is no possible way the Jack Nicholson character could not have known what Kopi Luwak coffee was. (It's made from beans that have gotten fermented by passing through the digestive tract of a civet cat; in the movie the conceit is that the Nicholson character knows only that they are fabulously expensive, and either genuinely or snobbishly believes they are uniquely delicious--but has no idea of their nature).
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schnoodlemom wrote:
1)Go backcountry hiking in the mountains with hubby.
2)European vacation with hubby
3)Hawaiian vacation with hubby
4)Alaskan vacation with hubby
5)Anywhere with hubby...

I'm a little like a broken record, but truly I'm looking forward to travel and more quality time together when life isn't so busy and we feel financially set. We're getting some travel in now but the big ticket trips not yet. Need to stay healthy and save so we can get there some day. Amanda


You know I've learned something in my life. Yes, probably just this one thing Wink Its this:

If something is important to you, do it. Obviously you want to spend more time with your hubby. So get to it. Don't wait til someday or tomorrow or just until we have $x or whatever. Because tomorrow may not be here or the money may not come. You have a gift of a hubby you want to spend time with. Find ways to do that now.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, sperry8, for the gentle push! Smile You're right on. We're trying real hard to carve out time (date nights, lunch dates) while smack dab in the middle of hectic child-raising, elder-caring, career-building, home-maintaining years. While I feel really grateful for our present day blessings, I just thought that if I had a bucket list these other more exotic locales would be on top. It's been truly inspirational reading all the other responses. Amanda
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Here's my list:

1. Live Forever
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reading this thread made me think of this little story. Hope you enjoy it.

THE STATION

By Robert J. Hastings
TUCKED AWAY in our subconscious minds is an idyllic vision in which we see ourselves on a long journey that spans an entire continent. We're traveling by train and, from the windows, we drink in the passing scenes of cars on nearby highways, of children waving at crossings, of cattle grazing in distant pastures, of smoke pouring from power plants, of row upon row upon row of cotton and corn and wheat, of flatlands and valleys, of city skylines and village halls.

But uppermost in our conscious minds is our final destination--for at a certain hour and on a given day, our train will finally pull into the Station with bells ringing, flags waving, and bands playing. And once that day comes, so many wonderful dreams will come true. So restlessly, we pace the aisles and count the miles, peering ahead, waiting, waiting, waiting for the Station.

"Yes, when we reach the Station, that will be it!" we promise ourselves. "When we're eighteen. . . win that promotion. . . put the last kid through college. . . buy that 450SL Mercedes-Benz. . . have a nest egg for retirement!"
From that day on we will all live happily ever after.

Sooner or later, however, we must realize there is no Station in this life, no one earthly place to arrive at once and for all. The journey is the joy. The Station is an illusion--it constantly outdistances us. Yesterday's a memory, tomorrow's a dream. Yesterday belongs to a history, tomorrow belongs to God. Yesterday's a fading sunset, tomorrow's a faint sunrise. Only today is there light enough to love and live.

So, gently close the door on yesterday and throw the key away. It isn't the burdens of today that drive men mad, but rather the regret over yesterday and the fear of tomorrow. Regret and fear are twin thieves who would rob us of today.
"Relish the moment" is a good motto, especially when coupled with Psalm 118:24, "This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it."

So stop pacing the aisles and counting the miles. Instead, swim more rivers, climb more mountains, kiss more babies, count more stars. Laugh more and cry less. Go barefoot oftener. Eat more ice cream. Ride more merry-go-rounds. Watch more sunsets. Life must be lived as we go along. The Station will come soon enough.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imperabo wrote:
Here's my list:

1. Live Forever
Ah, memories of college bull sessions. You wouldn't want to live forever as a discorporated, bodiless brain, in a jar, with a supply of properly oxygenated blood, fully conscious and able to think lucidly--but with no senses, no way to see or hear or touch or communicate? You might figure out how to cure cancer, achieve world peace, or time the stock market and not be able to tell anyone.

You need to debug that list. "Live forever... in good health."

Wait, wait, make that, "live forever, in good physical and mental health."

No, wait, wait, make that "live forever, happily, in good physical and mental health, with an endless supply of satisfying and worthwhile things to do, goals to attain, accomplishments to achieve."

No, wait, wait, make that "live forever, happily, in good physical and mental health, with an endless supply of satisfying and worthwhile things to do, goals to attain, accomplishments to achieve, and similarly immortal friends, companions, and lovers to share it all with."

No, wait, wait, make that "live forever, happily, in good physical and mental health, with an endless supply of satisfying and worthwhile things to do, goals to attain, accomplishments to achieve, and similarly immortal friends, companions, and lovers to share it all with, in a community of immortals who respect me, and children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, great-great-grandchildren, and great-great-great-grandchildren to play with."

And you could have all that and still never get really good at playing the piano.

...after a while it seems like perhaps it's really asking for quite a lot. Immortality might be the easy part.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beggars can't be choosers. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A personal thought for whatever it may be worth. A carryover from my working days is that I do an annual "Plan" with goals (more like thoughts/intentions) for several categories eg house, travel, cars and of course financial. At the beginning of each year, I write a general statement. Not a mission really, more like a guiding statement. The current one reads, "Enjoy the health and time we have left. Be mindful of how little time there is and how quickly it passes."
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nisiprius wrote:
Imperabo wrote:
Here's my list:

1. Live Forever
Ah, memories of college bull sessions. You wouldn't want to live forever as a discorporated, bodiless brain, in a jar, with a supply of properly oxygenated blood, fully conscious and able to think lucidly--...

At first glance I thought you were referencing the Face of Boe from Doctor Who. If I knew how to post images, I would. Thanks for the laugh with the rest of your post. Amanda

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_of_Boe
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nisiprius wrote:
MarcMyWord wrote:
jeffyscott wrote:
What movie are you [nisiprius] referring to?
I assume nisiprius was referring to The Bucket List, starring Morgan Freeman and Jack Nicholson.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bucket_List
Yes. It had its moments but it was annoying. There is no possible way the Jack Nicholson character could not have known what Kopi Luwak coffee was. (It's made from beans that have gotten fermented by passing through the digestive tract of a civet cat; in the movie the conceit is that the Nicholson character knows only that they are fabulously expensive, and either genuinely or snobbishly believes they are uniquely delicious--but has no idea of their nature).


Thanks.

Since I usually like Nicholson, I'm now #2 on the hold list to get this from my library, even though I don't buy into the notion of fulfillment through tourism or impossible concepts like "live every day as it it were your last" or "live for today" or "live each day to its fullest".

Did this movie invent the term bucket list or was that a pre-existing expression? I think I may have heard the term before, but if I did, I was not aware of its meaning until I read this thread. In fact the reason I clicked on it was I was wondering what this "bucket list" was, thinking it had something to do with the buckets of money investing strategy Smile .
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The comedian Benny Hill said:

Live each day as if it was your last.
One day you'll be right.


Quote:
Here's my list:
1. Live Forever


Boy, does that put a lot of pressure on asset allocation.

(of course remember the sun burns out in about 9 billion years)


Thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

schnoodlemom wrote:
nisiprius wrote:
Imperabo wrote:
Here's my list:

1. Live Forever
Ah, memories of college bull sessions. You wouldn't want to live forever as a discorporated, bodiless brain, in a jar, with a supply of properly oxygenated blood, fully conscious and able to think lucidly--...

At first glance I thought you were referencing the Face of Boe from Doctor Who. If I knew how to post images, I would. Thanks for the laugh with the rest of your post. Amanda

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_of_Boe
Truth be told, the direct trigger for the thought was a short story by Raold Dahl I just read this afternoon, entitled "William and Mary." It's about a man with pancreatic cancer who agrees to let a doctor try to keep his brain alive, together with the optic nerve and one eye. He was a bit of a bully to his wife, among other things forbidding her to smoke. In the lab she takes a drag of a cigarette and puffs the smoke at his eye, and is thrilled to see his pupil constrict to a pinpoint in fury. She insists on taking him home, relishing the thought of her husband now being under her complete control.

But I was also thinking of the severed head of Alcasan in C. S. Lewis' That Hideous Strength, which was probably inspired by the discorporated brains in Olaf Stapleton's First and Last Men, all of them in turn probably thinking of some extremely creepy experiments performed by Russian scientists in the 1940s in which they kept a severed dog's head alive. Oh, there's a short story by Piers Anthony about a man who is tortured by the progressive destruction of everything in his body until nothing remains but a discorporated brain. And an article in Whole Earth Review some years ago about the state and prospects of the discorporation art.

Oh good grief, wouldn't you know it? The footage of those Russian experiments is on YouTube. I'm not going to post the link, but a search on "Russian experiments severed dog's head" finds it. I saw that movie decades ago. I'm 90% sure the narrator is J. B. S. Haldane, who I suspect of being the inspiration for some of the scientist characters in That Hideous Strength.

I wonder just how many fantasy stories have been written about bodiless brains?

Oh, and a happy Hallowe'en to all. Twisted Evil
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Quote:
Here's my list:
1. Live Forever


Boy, does that put a lot of pressure on asset allocation.



That's why I'm 100% equity.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeffyscott wrote:
Since I usually like Nicholson, I'm now #2 on the hold list to get this from my library, even though I don't buy into the notion of fulfillment through tourism or impossible concepts like "live every day as it it were your last" or "live for today" or "live each day to its fullest".
All things in moderation, but I've always thought those were useful adages. Balancing 'live for today' with planning for the future has always been a goal of mine. It's easy to over-emphasize one over the other if you don't think about it from time to time. YMMV

I think you'll enjoy the movie. Not on my top 10 list of all time, but certainly entertaining.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Midpack wrote:
Balancing 'live for today' with planning for the future has always been a goal of mine.


The thing is "live every day as it it were your last" or "live for today" or "live each day to its fullest" say nothing about balancing or giving any thought at all to the future.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't, since life has turned out to be much more, much better than I could have ever expected.

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I'm 31 so probably a lot younger than most here. My list is related to creating a "legacy" of sorts, since things like having various experiences will only be memories that will die with me. So I want to do some things that will continue on. So here's my 3-item list:

1. Get married, preferably to a cute asian girl, and have some kids. Currently working on this. I'll probly end up going the foreign-bride route, as I'm a bit of a nerd.

2. Take up a political cause, which may include writing a book, running an internet forum, and/or starting a charity, and possibly other ideas which I haven't thought of yet. I do have a specific topic in mind, but as it's rather controversial, I won't get into it here.

3. Build a long-term time capsule. I have an idea in mind, but it will be fairly expensive. I hope that I'll have enough money after the having-kids thing.

With these 3 items, I'll have secured my legacy genetically, memetically, and physically. (note that a meme is a unit of idea that's passed on)

As an interesting side-note, my dad's plan for retirement, both for profit and for fun, is to start a cemetery.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a poem entitled 'Life and Fame', Abraham Cowley wrote:
And with what rare Inventions do we strive,
Our selves then to survive?
Wise, subtle Arts, and such as well befit
That Nothing Mans no Wit.
Some with vast costly Tombs would purchase it,
And by the proofs of Death pretend to Live.
Here lies the Great -- False Marble, where?
Nothing but small and sordid Dust lies there....

... What Substance, what Subsistence, what Hypostasis
In Six poor Letters is?
In those alone does the Great Cæsar live,
'Tis all the Conquered World could give.
We Poets madder yet then all,
With a refin'ed Phantastick Vanitie,
Think we not onely Have, but Give Eternitie.
Fain would I see that Prodigal,
Who his To-morrow would bestow,
For all old Homers Life ere since he Dy'ed till now.
Yeah, Abraham, you tell 'em, those grapes of fame are probably sour, anyway!

But still, I wouldn't mind having someone quote me in a forum three hundred and fifty-three years from now. And all old Homer's fame? That's really quite a lot. Would I give up tomorrow for a guarantee of being as famous as Homer? Yes.

But I'll settle for knowing that my adult kids actually like getting together with us for Thanksgiving, and having my grandson hold his arms out to me for a hug.

So, scratch that tomorrow-for-Homer's-fame deal. It's only on if I don't have anything important going on tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...two chicks at the same time...

(from the movie, Office Space)

Fill everyday with laughter, and you won't sweat the bucket list.
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the only thing i had on mine was to buy a rolex... screw what people think about me, this is ALL for me.. ive worshiped them since I was about 12... i am just fascinated by mechanical movements, and i love everything about them... its a poor investement, but for about a year now my GMTIIc has brought me NOTHING but daily joy... i usually wear a long sleeve shirt and pretty much no one knows i have it... but it MAKES MY DAY EVERY DAY... having taht on my wrist makes me happy enugh that i dont mind driving lowest level toyotas

#2 on the list was to buy my wife one as well... she wasnt much of a watch person, but she WORSHIPS her no date OP... i cant belieev the joy it brings her./.

we got 35% off retail, and i couldnt care LESS what thay money may have done for us in the long run.. it makes me feel good, and NOTHING else compares too that.. her $12k ring was probably a bad investment too, but she is the love of 100 lifetimes, and i would do it again over and over, even if i did take a loan out to make it happen for her..

my wife and our marriage is what got me in love with the idea of investing, and worrying about my future. i made a full 180 from where i was a couple years ago spending every penny i make and driving cars and motorcycles etc...

bucket list going forward:

- get my wife to CA to visit her family 1 time a year if not 2
- get my wife to Italy, a dream she never thought would happen
- invest wisely, look forward to August 1st 2018 when my house is paid off and try to pay it off faster
- setup a Roth for my child at birth, and pay what i can into it yearly... i dont want them growin up thinking paycheck to paycheck is the only option like i did...

other than that, the writer above hit it on the head, i laugh every day, as often as possioble.. i may not eat $100 dinners, but im proud of what i have and where im going.. any trips or anything that come up between now and death are a bonus, my family is my life
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ziggy75 wrote:
...two chicks at the same time...



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ziggy75 wrote:
...two chicks at the same time...


Done it...

And I want a Rolex too, but that's more of a short-term thing.
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