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Technical Analysis Beats Buy and Hold

 
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wab



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:47 pm    Post subject: Technical Analysis Beats Buy and Hold Reply with quote

Catchy title, eh?

I was checking out a wood-working site when I discovered the author's very clever Technical Analysis validation site:

http://www.chartgame.com/

I tried it a couple of times, and I managed to beat the market (with no TA skills even -- I relied only on momentum).

More interestingly, as of today, the total annual return for all players is 11.51% vs 10.98% for buy and hold.

http://chartgame.com/playedlist.cgi?latest

The basic idea is that you're presented with a historical stock chart and some T/A metrics, and your job is to buy or sell based on the chart as the virtual date ticks by. Then the stock is revealed and your performance is compared to buy-and-hold for that stock.

It would be even more interesting if you could go short....
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grabiner



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Technical Analysis Beats Buy and Hold Reply with quote

wab wrote:
Catchy title, eh?

I was checking out a wood-working site when I discovered the author's very clever Technical Analysis validation site:

http://www.chartgame.com/

I tried it a couple of times, and I managed to beat the market (with no TA skills even -- I relied only on momentum).

More interestingly, as of today, the total annual return for all players is 11.51% vs 10.98% for buy and hold.


I suspect there is some survivorship bias involved; players are more likely to quit if their first few scores are bad, and only players who have played enough to qualify make the total list.

I played four times, also going by momentum, beating the stock three of those four, and missing the fourth because of failed execution (I either misclicked or double-clicked and didn't buy a stock the day before it jumped).

The score is based on the average per day invested, with no trading costs, therefore, a player who traded at random would tie the market average.
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Unormal



Joined: 20 Nov 2007
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Location: the middle

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:10 am    Post subject: Re: Technical Analysis Beats Buy and Hold Reply with quote

wab wrote:
Catchy title, eh?

I was checking out a wood-working site when I discovered the author's very clever Technical Analysis validation site:

http://www.chartgame.com/

I tried it a couple of times, and I managed to beat the market (with no TA skills even -- I relied only on momentum).

More interestingly, as of today, the total annual return for all players is 11.51% vs 10.98% for buy and hold.

http://chartgame.com/playedlist.cgi?latest

The basic idea is that you're presented with a historical stock chart and some T/A metrics, and your job is to buy or sell based on the chart as the virtual date ticks by. Then the stock is revealed and your performance is compared to buy-and-hold for that stock.

It would be even more interesting if you could go short....


Also, I doubt this game takes transaction costs and taxes into account.
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