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madsinger
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 354
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:29 pm Post subject: madsinger monthly report |
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Here is a big fat collection of portfolios, with their July 2008 returns, 2008 YTD return, and annualized returns since 1999, 2001, 2003 and 2005 (9 years 7 months, 7 years 7 months, 5 years 7 months, 3 years 7 months). I broke them into four categories, roughly corresponding to 100/0, 80/20, 60/40, 40/60 stock/bond portfolios, sorted by Total Return since 2001. The 3 fund is 50/30/20 Total Stock/Total Int'l/Total Bond. The s&d is 10 each of VFINX, VIVAX, NAESX, VISVX, VGSIX, 25 VGTSX, 5 VINEX, 20 VBMFX. The coffeehouse is a 60/40 described at The Coffeehouse Investor. The Newsletter portfolios are from a newsletter following Vanguard funds. William Bernstein's "Sheltered Sam" is an all stock portfolio which is 20% VFINX, 25% VIVAX, 5% NAESX, 15% VISVX, 10% VGSIX, 3% VGPMX, 5% each VEURX, VPACX, VEIEX, and 7% VTRIX.
New for 2008, I've added the "Hot Hands" fund, and the Newsletter "Growth Index" portfolio. I've also rearranged the columns so the far right is the "longest" time period, and the far left is the shortest.
The madsinger portfolio, my real-money portfolio (slice-n-dice, approximately 66/5/3/26 stock/REIT/PM/bond) is included at the end.
-Brad.
| Code: | CAGR CAGR CAGR CAGR
July YTD since since since since
2008 2008 2005 2003 2001 1999
Hot Hands -4.88% -17.96% 8.84% 18.50% 13.69% 15.63%
Sheltered Sam -0.73% -10.56% 6.57% 13.56% 6.94% 7.45%
VFINX -0.84% -12.70% 3.08% 8.61% 1.10% 1.89%
s&d -0.39% -8.29% 6.30% 12.48% 6.95% 7.52%
Newsletter G-IND -2.95% -11.30% 7.33% 12.19% 5.88% 4.89%
Newsletter G -1.56% -11.50% 7.23% 12.82% 5.57% 9.92%
3 fund -1.45% -9.84% 6.11% 11.13% 4.62% 4.81%
LS G -1.17% -10.98% 4.91% 10.18% 3.71% 4.04%
Wellington -1.32% -6.77% 6.20% 9.56% 6.53% 6.70%
coffeehouse 0.42% -5.15% 4.96% 9.72% 6.52% 6.78%
STAR -0.94% -7.66% 4.74% 8.98% 5.16% 5.95%
newsletter CG -1.10% -9.80% 6.05% 11.08% 5.02% 7.38%
LS MG -0.82% -8.32% 4.70% 8.72% 4.20% 4.45%
Wellesley 0.15% -4.37% 4.30% 5.83% 5.87% 5.80%
newsletter Inc -0.74% -5.90% 3.91% 7.29% 4.53% 4.20%
LS CG -0.57% -5.72% 4.37% 7.11% 4.41% 4.63%
madsinger -0.59% -6.69% 6.43%
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madsinger
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 354
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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A few more minus signs this month. A little more "spray" in the asset classes this month. Depending on which way you lean, you may have done well, or, let's see...a buying opportunity!
Small Caps (+1.67%) , especially Small Cap Value (+4.03%) were strong this month. REITs were up over 3%, but Precious Metals got thwacked, down over -18% for the month! International was much weaker than domestic for July (-3.67% for Total Int'l vs. -0.77% for Total Stock).
Coffeehouse was the big winner with healthy doses of small caps and REITs, and not too much Int'l.
Hot Hands got hit again this month.
My madsinger portfolio held up pretty well for the month, thanks to an extra helping of small caps...and NO THANKS to precious metals. I should review again for rebalancing opportunities!
Wishing you all well!
-Brad. |
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Puakinekine
Joined: 14 Apr 2007 Posts: 460
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for posting this every month Brad. Lately, there has not been a lot of response to the monthly Madsinger, but really what can you say? I suppose it is like the silence at a funeral. |
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burt

Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 61
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Thank-you for the monthly madsinger report. I always look forward to reviewing performance of the different portfolios.
Burt |
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investor
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 131
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Brad.
Always appreciate the posting, on both forums....
keep up the good work.... |
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bhmlurker
Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 224
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| As always I and many others appreciate this invaluable public service. Thank you!! |
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DiehardDoc
Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Posts: 36
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:55 am Post subject: Thanks Brad |
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Always appreciate your posts.
I had allocated 5% to VGPMX which had appreciated to 6-7% of my portfolio at one time, now down almost 25% from the top.
S: B:C 82:12:6
1 year return -8% 3 year return 3%
DiehardDoc. |
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aaronchall
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Posts: 26
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:26 am Post subject: Newsletters |
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It's always been my impression that newsletters don't do very well. I imagine it's because they over-allocate to T-bills.
But then I'm personally biased against bonds in the first place.
Owners cruise, loaners lose.
Aaron _________________ I blog! See my thoughts on the market and investing, click my website below! |
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Chip
Joined: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 918
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:12 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | But then I'm personally biased against bonds in the first place.
Owners cruise, loaners lose. |
IMO, not a good position for a financial advisor to take. Will you advise a 70 year old not to own any bonds? |
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IlliniSigEp

Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 174 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:28 am Post subject: Re: Newsletters |
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| aaronchall wrote: |
But then I'm personally biased against bonds in the first place.
Owners cruise, loaners lose.
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That has to be about the silliest thing I have ever read. You do realize the bond/cash market is larger than the stock market? I guess the world has this one wrong...
-Dave |
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EmergDoc

Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 6068 Location: Greatest Snow On Earth
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Brad. That makes me feel a little better about my losses YTD. _________________ 1) Invest you must 2) Time is your friend 3) Impulse is your enemy
4) Basic arithmetic works 5) Stick to simplicity 6) Stay the course |
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Vig Oren

Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 818 Location: NC (near Raleigh)
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:07 pm Post subject: Coaker/Vig Lower Correlated Portfolio w/40% in fixed income |
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Brad is gone till next month
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InvestingMom
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 497
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks. I always find this information useful and somewhat calming...I wish the long term columns were better, but hey, at least they are not negative. (I did not look at the short term results since it is too short of a period for comparisons...but I really like looking at the longer term figures.) |
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tdhg566

Joined: 08 Mar 2007 Posts: 576 Location: Spring, TX - Age: 58
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks very much for compiling and posting this information. I do look forward to reading this posting each month, regardless of what it says  _________________ My work must be retiree friendly, geographically portable, mentally stimulating and personally profitable |
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swaption
Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 267
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: Newsletters |
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| IlliniSigEp wrote: | | aaronchall wrote: |
But then I'm personally biased against bonds in the first place.
Owners cruise, loaners lose.
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That has to be about the silliest thing I have ever read. You do realize the bond/cash market is larger than the stock market? I guess the world has this one wrong...
-Dave |
Like it or not, it's true. It's the price of safety. Unfortunately, often times even that safety is an illusion. As a lender, you are providing the means for the owners to make money. There is a much smaller volume of money that can take equity risks. |
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