I'm willing to do some grunt work if there is no rush on these things. jg (I'll probably regret saying that....)
pkcrafter wrote:retiredjg,I'm willing to do some grunt work if there is no rush on these things. jg (I'll probably regret saying that....)
Yes, that's what I'm backing.![]()
mikenz wrote:Yes, that list came from old M* board and the new forum (see links at bottom of page). I didn't include every last book I came across, but stuck with the well-known ones and ones that were mentioned multiple times mainly.
As far as writing reviews, what I did is try to do an objective look at the book and what it contains. Not too wordy, mainly a table of contents and brief overview. Then at the bottom put personal opinions about the book - that way a number of people can add their view on the book at the bottom without having to write a separate review. We could instead use the discussion feature for that?
pkcrafter wrote:Mikenz and retiredjg,
I will see if I can learn how to work with the Wiki and then contribute something useful to the book project.
Paul
retiredjg wrote:Unfortunately, I've mostly read the same books as everyone else, so I don't know how helpful I'll be on this. I'll be back in touch. jg
You're absolutely right. Just that some books have been read by so few people, I hope those books will get a review or two rather than none. In fact, for those of you who have read some of the less read books, you should consider it an obligation to review them! (Anyone out there subject to being guilted into action? Nah, I didn't think so...)veryamusing wrote:Hey, retiredjg. When I read the above, I thought to myself just because we Bogleheads have read largely the same books, I bet we each take away something different. That's what I think could be great about the book reviews, if each person who has read the book chimed in on how it helped them (think: Amazon, how each book has many reviews).
PiperWarrior wrote:Shall we "wikify" our reference library?
For example, I don't think it makes sense to have both of
- Treasury Inflation Protected Securities in the wiki and
- TIPS in the reference library.
We can just merge them. (Currently, the former points to the latter.) Barry and others do a great job, but without them, we cannot even fix broken links or typos in the reference library. Also, it's possible that somebody might have a great idea about reorganizing a list of papers (say, categorizing them into "for" TIPS and "against" TIPS or whatever). He/she cannot do that right now.
The forum interface is nice for live exchanges, but they are not really great for library purposes. (Yes, I do understand that the reference library predates the wiki.)
I apologize in advance if this has been suggested before.
I'm willing to do the conversion work, but I'd like some general agreement before I do that.
Barry Barnitz wrote:Wikifying the Reference Library is a good long range project. Tonight, after work, I will try and draft an administrative page on the wiki that will list reference posts and provide a checklist for wiki migration.
UKbloke wrote:Why is it a problem that both TIPS and Treasury Inflation Protected Securities have a Wiki page? Some people search for TIPS, other for Treasury Inflation Protected Securities... let it be!
UKbloke wrote:Why is it a problem that both TIPS and Treasury Inflation Protected Securities have a Wiki page? Some people search for TIPS, other for Treasury Inflation Protected Securities... let it be!
A wiki may seem chaotic, but so is the market. Chaos is order!
PiperWarrior wrote:Barry and others,
After we wikify one Reference Library topic, what shall we do? I am afraid that somebody might add to a Reference Library topic after I finish wikifying the topic.
Shall we lock the topic?
Shall we put a note in the topic, saying that "This topic is now maintained at Such Such Wiki Page"?
Shall we do both?
Shall we continue to accept contributions to wikified Reference Library topics?
One thing that's marginally an issue is that the Reference Library can accept any additional message to the existing topics from any forum member. In contrast, the wiki seems to have an additional hurdle. Specifically, you have to become a forum member first and then apply for a wiki user account. I am hoping that this hurdle is minor. Thoughts?
Barry Barnitz wrote:For the present, I have done the following for Library posts that have been incorporated into the Wiki:
1. On the Reference Library page, I have placed a (-->Wiki) marker in the title of each Topic which has been transferred or incorporated into the wiki.
2. I have placed a prominent announcement and link in the heading of each wikified Reference Library page. Example
linenfort wrote:Are there plans to include initials as searchable terms? For example,
in the future will someone be able to type TLH into the wiki search box
and be re redirected to the Tax Loss Harvesting Page?
linenfort wrote:(Sorry, PiperWarrior, I PM'ed you about this just now b/c I hadn't
found this thread).
Mediawiki has something called "redirect"
SamLJ wrote:With regards to TLH, how about including a list of recommended/similar funds that do not trigger a wash sale for commonly held VG mutual funds? The forum seems to have a heavy load of people asking TLH related questions.
PiperWarrior wrote:I'm hesitating about listing TLH options. There are no definite guidelines about substantially identical securities. I'm happy to mention on the forum what I personally do, but I don't want to make it sound official. Sure, the wiki comes with a disclaimer, but I am a bit uncomfortable taking advantage of it to say not very credible things.
PiperWarrior wrote:SamLJ wrote:With regards to TLH, how about including a list of recommended/similar funds that do not trigger a wash sale for commonly held VG mutual funds? The forum seems to have a heavy load of people asking TLH related questions.
Thank you for a suggestion.
I'm hesitating about listing TLH options. There are no definite guidelines about substantially identical securities. I'm happy to mention on the forum what I personally do, but I don't want to make it sound official. Sure, the wiki comes with a disclaimer, but I am a bit uncomfortable taking advantage of it to say not very credible things.
retiredjg wrote:It would be helpful to many, I believe, if the wiki contained a collection or summary of the "substantially similar" discussions. Especially containing LH2004's input on the Supreme Court and Cottage Savings. I believe LH's opinion is probably most likely to be correct, but it seems to get forgotten and people keep trying to find a common sense definition of "substantially identical" rather than a legal definition. Especially when the Fairmark author expressed the opinion about graphs laying on top of each other! A good example of trying to use common sense rather than legal precedent.
retiredjg wrote:PiperWarrior wrote:Would you like to take a stab and create a wiki page, listing various interpretations from IRS Publications, LH2004, fairmark, etc?
Groan. I don't really think I'm the best person to do this. LH2004, are you around?
JustAsking wrote:I'm new to the forum (within the past few days) and am working my way through the wiki. Although it's great to have the info in one place, the first thing I notice is that the structure is really burdensome--there are category pages and subcategory pages and sub-sub-category pages, each with links to click. It's like a maze, and you spend a comparatively large proportion of time on overhead (clicking and navigating) rather than reading. This discourages users.
It might not be so bad (not good, but not so bad) if it were possible to go from one page to the next sequentially. As is, to get to the next page at any level, you have to go up one level and then back down. This is slow, inconvenient, and a recipe for RSI.
JustAsking wrote:I know you're using a CMS that imposes certain limitations, but would it be possible to do something more like a Windows Explorer setup, with a tree in the left nav bar that makes the organization self-evident and allows us to just click directly on topics we want to see? I understand that you're trying to provide expansion room for the future, but a) it should be convenient to use now too, and b) if it's cumbersome and people abandon it, options for the future will be irrelevant.
JustAsking wrote:I also want to mention some related issues about this site's search function, which doesn't seem to work the way it does on other forums (even those using the same software). First, I'm not clear on the difference between "Search for any terms or use query as entered" and "Search for all terms." Doesn't "query as entered" mean "all terms"? I've tried with and without quotes, but it doesn't seem to return exact phrases. Neither option seems to make a difference. Also, most search engines now search for all terms by default, since this is the most common type of search and eliminates the need to enter Boolean operators (AND, OR). If you just want a single term, you can enter it (or them, sequentially).
Second, on other boards, the search typically highlights the terms in yellow and takes you to the first one. Here, even if you select "Display Posts" and 1000 characters, it doesn't do that--you still have to open each one and scroll to find the term.
Third, I like see 1000 (or more) characters of each post rather than just the titles. This is often the default on other boards, but not here--I have to choose it each time. I also can't set it in my Profile. Is it possible to give us the option to do that?
The IRS wrote:What's New for 2008
Maximum tax rate on qualified dividends and net capital gain reduced. In tax years beginning after 2007, the 5% maximum tax rate on qualified dividends and net capital gain is reduced to 0 (zero)%. Thus, qualified dividends and net capital gain are not taxed if the regular tax rate that would apply to them is lower than 25%.
tetractys wrote:How about pointers to important IRS.gov info?
Just noticed this good news for those in the <25% tax bracket: http://www.irs.gov/publications/p550/ar01.html#d0e67The IRS wrote:What's New for 2008
Maximum tax rate on qualified dividends and net capital gain reduced. In tax years beginning after 2007, the 5% maximum tax rate on qualified dividends and net capital gain is reduced to 0 (zero)%. Thus, qualified dividends and net capital gain are not taxed if the regular tax rate that would apply to them is lower than 25%.
Maximum Tax Rate on Qualified Dividends and Net Capital Gain Reduced
For tax years beginning after 2007, the 5% maximum tax rate on qualified dividends and net capital gain (the excess of net long-term capital gain over net short-term capital loss) is reduced to 0%. This reduction applies for both regular tax and AMT. The 15% maximum tax rate on qualified dividends and net capital gain has not changed.
Ducks wrote:I added the list of podcasts, gleaned from this recent thread:
viewtopic.php?p=314938
I am ridiculously happy that I'm able to help with this wiki. So if anybody has anything else they'd like me to wikify, I'd be glad to.
Ducks wrote:You bet, Mel. I'm in.
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