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Robert T

Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 1281 Location: 1, 0.2, 0.4, 0.5
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:20 am Post subject: Tax-efficiency of value funds - update |
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Here’s a quick update on the five-year tax-efficiency of various value funds to end December 2007 (See table below).
A few observations over the last five years:
1. Tax-efficiency of the value funds (particularly the iShares S&P 400 and S&P 600 Value, and DFA TM Mktwide Value) have not been wildly different from the tax-efficiency of Vanguard TSM.
2. Tax-efficiency of the value ETFs have been better than the DFA TM Targeted Value fund, and similar to the DFA TM Market-wide Value fund. The DFA TM Targeted Value fund had the highest after-tax return (consistent with its highest combined small and value loadings - although I would expect the load-adjusted after-tax returns to be much closer to the other ETFs).
3. I also compared the difference between the 5-yr index return and the 5-yr after-tax return for the iShares S&P 600 value, iShares S&P 400 value and Vangard TSM. The percentage differences were 0.52, 0.58, 0.58 respectively. So implementation has cost between 0.5 to 0.6% of returns for these three funds.
4. Will this relative tax-efficiency of value funds continue – time will tell.
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Five year returns to end Dec 2007
Before Tax After Tax Tax Cost
(BT) Return (AT) Return BT-AT Ratio
SMALL VALUE
iShares S&P 600 value 15.41 15.14 0.27 0.23
iShares Russell 2000 Value 15.55 15.11 0.44 0.38
Vanguard Small Value 14.78 14.34 0.44 0.38
DFA TM Targeted Value 17.54 16.51 1.03 0.88
MID/LARGE VALUE
DFA TM Mktwide Value 16.45 16.14 0.31 0.27
iShares S&P 400 Value 16.70 16.36 0.34 0.29
iShares Russell Mid-Value 17.69 17.28 0.41 0.35
TSM COMPARISON
Vanguard TSM 13.80 13.53 0.27 0.24
Source: iShares, DFA and Vanguard website.
“After-tax returns are calculated using the historical highest individual federal marginal income tax rates and do not reflect the impact of state and local taxes.”
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RaleighStClaire

Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 416 Location: Tilting
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Robert.
For the after-tax numbers what marginal tax rate is assumed here? |
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Kenster1

Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 2521
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info.
I would like to throw in one more comparison...
10-YR Returns as of 12/31/07:
Midcap (S&P400) SPDR ETF -- (data per AMEX)
Before-tax: 10.96%
After-tax: 10.40%
Vanguard Total Stock Market -- (data per Vanguard)
Before-tax: 6.25%
After-tax: 5.81%
Vanguard S&P 500 -- (data per Vanguard)
Before-tax: 5.83%
After-tax: 5.41%
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Robert T

Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 1281 Location: 1, 0.2, 0.4, 0.5
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:20 am Post subject: |
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RaleighStClaire,
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The “After-tax returns are calculated using the historical highest individual federal marginal income tax rates and do not reflect the impact of state and local taxes.” I have added this to the table. As the iShares site indicates: " Actual after-tax returns depend on the investor's tax situation and may differ from those shown. The after-tax returns shown are not relevant to investors who hold their fund shares through tax-deferred arrangements such as 401(k) plans or individual retirement accounts"
Kenster,
Thanks for the 10-yr numbers.
Robert
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alec
Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 1265
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Here are the 5 yr after tax returns for Vanguard Mid-Cap Index Fund Investor Shares
Before - 17.24%
After - 17.02%
A quick check of M* for VIMSX, MDY, and IJH, indicates that over last 3 + 5 years, VIMSX has been more tax efficient than the ETFs. VIMSX + IJH haven't been around for 10 years.
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stratton

Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 6747 Location: Puget Sound
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| alec wrote: | | A quick check of M* for VIMSX, MDY, and IJH, indicates that over last 3 + 5 years, VIMSX has been more tax efficient than the ETFs. VIMSX + IJH haven't been around for 10 years. |
How much of that was loss carry over from the 2001 - 2002 bear market? Quite a bit of mutual funds managed to store this up through the 2006 tax year. For the 2007 tax year Janus started spewing capital gains again.
Paul |
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Random Walker
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 235
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:13 pm Post subject: Value tilt in taxable? |
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Do the benefits of value tilt outweigh the potential costs in a taxable account? I am very interested in value tilt, but after TIPs and REITs I have no additional room in tax deferred accounts. I would really like to have a small value tilt. Instead I am using tax managed small cap in taxable account. Thanks.
Dave |
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stratton

Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 6747 Location: Puget Sound
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: Value tilt in taxable? |
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| Random Walker wrote: | | Do the benefits of value tilt outweigh the potential costs in a taxable account? I am very interested in value tilt, but after TIPs and REITs I have no additional room in tax deferred accounts. I would really like to have a small value tilt. Instead I am using tax managed small cap in taxable account. Thanks. |
IJS is probably your best bet for SV in taxable.
Paul |
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daniel

Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 86
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: Value tilt in taxable? |
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| stratton wrote: | | Random Walker wrote: | | Do the benefits of value tilt outweigh the potential costs in a taxable account? I am very interested in value tilt, but after TIPs and REITs I have no additional room in tax deferred accounts. I would really like to have a small value tilt. Instead I am using tax managed small cap in taxable account. Thanks. |
IJS is probably your best bet for SV in taxable.
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I know that IJS is the most tax efficient one of the small value ETF's, but I sometimes wonder whether it makes much of a difference though, i.e. according to Robert's numbers:
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Fund Tax ratio
IJS 0.23 (S&P 600 value)
VBR 0.38 (Vanguard MSCI 1750 value)
IWN 0.38 (russell 2000 value)
VTI 0.24 (total stock market)
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The differences seems rather small -- or am I underestimating the impact of the taxes? (I have just recently started investing in taxable)
Personally, I now hold VBR in my taxable account since it contains about 2.5 times as many holdings as IJS.
Best,
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SmallHi
Joined: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 1711
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Nice work Robert! Very helpful to update these studies from time to time.
By the way, I think in general the use of Mid Cap Value ETFs (in leu of the Marketwide Value or Large Value DFA funds) gives you the necessary size tilt to equalize Russell/S&P/MSCI/DFA allocations.
sh |
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