Carlyle Group Lowers Investment Minimum to 50K

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Wasatcher
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Carlyle Group Lowers Investment Minimum to 50K

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The Carlyle Group, along with KKR and Blackstone, are making their private fund investment prowess available to the little guy. Carlyle's new funds will allow investors with as little as $50K to join the moneyed elites. Per the WSJ, Carlyle will impose its standard "money management" fees of 1.5%/year and 20% of profits. PLUS, Central Park Group will charge an additional fee of 1.8% to "manage the fund" and pay brokers to sell it to investors. Combined that's an annual fee of 3.3%, plus 20% of any profits. Excuse me if I don't sign up.
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Yeah no kidding. These guys are unbelievable. $50k? No thanks. Wouldn't do it for $500.
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Wonder if these are "new" funds or their random seed funds that "have" a good track record (while quietly disposing of the never-to-be-heard-of failures).

In Wall Street, they believe in the adage that a sucker is born every other second.....

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RIP Mr. Bogle.
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What were their annual returns like in the last 10 years?
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I read somewhere that they are doing this because they haven't done well recently, so they are getting desperate for victms--I mean customers.

I wonder how big a commission they are offering brokers and/or advisors to push this glorious opportunity wealthier victims have learned to avoid.
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NYBoglehead wrote:Yeah no kidding. These guys are unbelievable. $50k? No thanks. Wouldn't do it for $500.
might be fun to give them $50 and make them send you statements.
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Scooter57 wrote:I read somewhere that they are doing this because they haven't done well recently, so they are getting desperate for victms--I mean customers.

I wonder how big a commission they are offering brokers and/or advisors to push this glorious opportunity wealthier victims have learned to avoid.
if you flip over to the other thread you will see both issues discussed.
they are getting desperate for customers because their best customers, defined benefit pension plans, are disappearing...

the commission is 1.8% i think-
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My local craps table has lowered the minimum from 5 dollars to 1 dollar.
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They must need a large pool of suckers.
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