oleblue wrote:My yearly salary before taxes is $55,000.
oleblue wrote:I also see that the TSP has a roth option now. Would that be something I should look into?
oleblue wrote:I currently have around $105,000 invested as follows and invest $28000 annually also as follows
oleblue wrote:Thrift Savings Plan L2040 Fund $63,000 Adding $17,900 annually
Vanguard S&P 500 VFINX $6800 Adding $3600 annually
Vanguard TR 2045 Roth IRA $30000 Adding $5000 annually
Individual stocks that I bought cheap in 2008. $5000 no automatic monthly investment
oleblue wrote:I also have $10,000 coming from a bonus this year and would like to invest it wisely somewhere.
oleblue wrote:Could someone would look over my investments and make sure I am making the right choices in investing for my age?
Thrift Savings Plan L2040 Fund Adding $17,900 annually
Vanguard TR 2045 Roth IRA Adding $5000 annually
nirvines88 wrote:oleblue wrote:My yearly salary before taxes is $55,000.oleblue wrote:I also see that the TSP has a roth option now. Would that be something I should look into?
It looks like you're pretty solidly in the 25% tax bracket range, yes? If that's the case, it's hard to say. At the 25% level, it is difficult to tell whether a Roth option or a Traditional option is better. Typically under 25% means that a Roth option may be better, whereas over 25% a Traditional option is better. For you, Traditional may be better, or maybe a mixture of Traditional and Roth. I would lean towards solely Traditional or a mix of Traditional and Roth. Check out this link: http://thefinancebuff.com/case-against-roth-401k.html
I just thought about this though: You're a member of the military, which means you get a pension after x years of service, correct? If you have a pension, your tax bracket may never be lower than it is now (or possibly just barely lower). In that case, a Roth may be a better choice. Hopefully others can weigh in on the pension factor (before I thought about this, I was definitely thinking a Traditional option was the better choice).oleblue wrote:I currently have around $105,000 invested as follows and invest $28000 annually also as follows
Impressive! Great savings rate.oleblue wrote:Thrift Savings Plan L2040 Fund $63,000 Adding $17,900 annually
Vanguard S&P 500 VFINX $6800 Adding $3600 annually
Vanguard TR 2045 Roth IRA $30000 Adding $5000 annually
Individual stocks that I bought cheap in 2008. $5000 no automatic monthly investment
I don't know much about the TSP, but you have some good Vanguard funds there. Bogleheads typically do not condone buying individual stocks, and most people will probably recommend that you sell them. I would suggest holding on to them if they have significant capital gains, and stop buying individual stocks in the future and redirect that money towards index funds, preferably one of the big 3 index funds: Total Stock Market, Total International, or Total Bond (T.B. is best placed in a tax deferred account).oleblue wrote:I also have $10,000 coming from a bonus this year and would like to invest it wisely somewhere.
Once again, I think one of the big 3 index funds would serve you well. See this link for more info: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=88005oleblue wrote:Could someone would look over my investments and make sure I am making the right choices in investing for my age?
I personally think that you are doing great. You're saving a lot of your salary at a young age and investing it wisely. A few minor tweaks may be beneficial (such as redirecting contributions away from individual stocks towards mutual funds, using the big 3 portfolio instead of the target retirement fund as it would allow for easier rebalancing, etc.).
It sounds cliche, but thanks for serving! Let us know if you have any further questions. Hopefully others will weigh in on the Roth v. Traditional option.
cubaboymatt1316 wrote:As a former NCO in the Army, I have to say... I'm impressed! Your savings rate is excellent. We're the same age, and while I have a wife and kids, I'm still not sure I'd be saving as much as you if I didn't! I know how hard it is to not drive the fancy cars other E6's drive around (and spend their entire paychecks on) or eat out every night. You are going to be extremely comfortable in 10 years. I'm jealous!
joe8d wrote:Thrift Savings Plan L2040 Fund Adding $17,900 annually
Vanguard TR 2045 Roth IRA Adding $5000 annually
On a 55K salary, the TSP Tradition contribution is probably dropping your income down to the 15 % bracket and so the Roth is being done in the 15% bracket.That's the way to go normally. I did similar with maxing my 401K to drop my bracket down and then did the Roth in the lower bracket.
Having a Military pension in the future though, may require some additional considerations.
oleblue wrote:Any other recommendations? My tsp is maxed and my roth is maxed out. Should I take the bonus and put it in my s&p 500 fund or should I open another fund ( total stock market) or such and put the money in there?
retiredjg wrote:oleblue wrote:Any other recommendations? My tsp is maxed and my roth is maxed out. Should I take the bonus and put it in my s&p 500 fund or should I open another fund ( total stock market) or such and put the money in there?
oleblue, since your taxable account is now a significant portion of your portfolio, it's time to stop using the target type funds (because target funds should not be in your taxable account because they contain bonds). What you need to do now is use the building blocks for the target funds (instead of the target funds) and distribute the building blocks according to where they best fit.
Here is what you have now (total = $114,800) :Taxable
$10k to be invested
$6.8k Vanguard S&P 500 VFINX
$5k Individual Stocks
TSP
$63k L2040 Fund
Roth IRA
$30k Vanguard TR 2045 Roth IRA
Here is one idea to consider. You would change your current holdings to this below and then maintain it with contributions.Taxable
$10k Total International Index VGTSX
$6.8k Vanguard S&P 500 VFINX
$5k Individual Stocks
TSP $63
$28.3k C Fund (500 Index)
$11.7k S Fund (Completion Index)
$23k F Fund or G Fund or combination
Roth IRA $30k
$13k Total Stock Market (could add a tilt here - like some REIT - if you want)
$17K Total International Index
This idea is 80% stocks, 20% bonds, with 30% of stocks (24% of portfolio) in International stocks. This is "better" than your current approach in two ways. First, it maintains your stock to bond ratio even when you are adding money to the taxable account (where bonds should not be, if possible). Second, it replaces the I Fund with Vanguard's International fund. The I Fund is incomplete in that it does not contain the emerging markets portion of the international market. And the I fund also does not contain small cap stocks. So replacing the I Fund with the Vanguard fund makes your portfolio more complete and more diversified.
How to figure C Fund and S Fund ratio. The C fund is the same as the 500 index you are holding in your taxable account.75% of the 500 Index and C Fund together plus 25% of the S fund = total stock market
Or if you want to overweight mid and small caps, just do half C fund/500 index and half S fund
Contributions = $26,500 total
Taxable Account $3600 <--to Total International
Thrift Savings Plan $17,900 <--$5300 to bonds, split the rest about 75% C fund and 25% S Fund
Roth IRA $ $5000 <--$2,800 to International, rest to total stock (or a tilt if you want)
Let me know if you have any questions.
I'll take your advice and move my money around, you know way more than I ever will about any of this and that's exactly why I love this forum. I do have a few questions though.oleblue wrote: I am still learning about all this stuff so I am trusting you with my future.I'll take your advice and move my money around...
For my Roth you suggested total stock market and total international index. Is this the (VTSMX) and the (VGTSX) funds?
As far as contributing to each of the funds, are you saying for my taxable accounts to contribute 3600 annually to the total international and not add any more contributions to the other two ( VFINX and individual stocks) ?
For the TSP contributions 5300 to F fund or F/G fund combo?
retiredjg wrote:oleblue wrote: I am still learning about all this stuff so I am trusting you with my future.I'll take your advice and move my money around...
You should not do this unless you understand it and decide for yourself that it is a good idea and what you want to do.For my Roth you suggested total stock market and total international index. Is this the (VTSMX) and the (VGTSX) funds?
Yes, unless you are buying more than $10k worth. Then you should be directed to the ticker for admiral shares of the same funds.As far as contributing to each of the funds, are you saying for my taxable accounts to contribute 3600 annually to the total international and not add any more contributions to the other two ( VFINX and individual stocks) ?
Yes. You will be buying more 500 Index in the TSP in the form of C fund. You said you were not buying more individual stocks, so I didn't put any money there. If you wanted to buy a little, you could.For the TSP contributions 5300 to F fund or F/G fund combo?
Yes.
While you are thinking about this, go take a look at what is in the Target Retirement Fund that you currently hold. I've simply used the same funds. Or in the case of total stock market, I've built a total stock market substitute using C fund/500 Index and the S Fund.
Members of the military get a pension only if they stay in the military for 20 years. For those who will stay long enough to get the pension, the case for the Roth TSP would be the same as the one for civilian employees.
Military members who don’t stay 20 years won’t get a pension. I would still do the Roth TSP because the income in the military isn’t that high. After leaving the military, you will likely get a job in the private sector that pays much more. It makes sense to do the Roth TSP now when your tax rate is low.
With some exceptions, most TSP participants should switch to the Roth TSP.
oleblue wrote:The roth I have through vanguard, would I just change that into a taxable account?
What's your take on converting my tsp account to roth and adding the $17900 annually?
oleblue wrote:Anybody have any input on the final plan?
retiredjg wrote:oleblue wrote:Anybody have any input on the final plan?
The numbers are a little different, but certainly close enough. The numbers may be somewhat different because you are talking about monthly contributions when you actually get paid 26 times a year rather than 24 times a year.
Since this is a pretty big change from using target type funds, you should watch it once a month for awhile just to get used to the ups and downs. You won't necessarily need to do anything, just watch and figure out the percentages for practice.
Once you are accustomed to it, check once or twice a year to see if you need to bring things closer to target. You can do this by changing your contributions a little or by making adjustments in the TSP or in the Roth IRA. Sell stocks and buy bonds (or vice versa) in the TSP to adjust your stock to bond ratio. Sell and buy in the Roth IRA to adjust your US to International stock ratio (this does not need adjusting as often).
oleblue wrote:Are you saying watch the percentage of stocks and bonds? So now it's 80/20, at what point should I start to shift that?
You said earlier to add maybe 5% bonds every year. If I follow that should that keep me pretty much on track?
retiredjg wrote:oleblue wrote:Are you saying watch the percentage of stocks and bonds? So now it's 80/20, at what point should I start to shift that?
Yes, I'm saying watch the percentages of stocks, bonds, and the amount of stocks that are in international. If you set it to 80/20 today, it will be something different tomorrow since the market is always changing. It will probably just be a little different. However, after a few months, it may be more different. What I want you to do is just get a feeling for how the percentages move up and down in a normal market.
There are two ways to keep your portfolio on target. You can watch it fairly closely (say once a week or once a month) and adjust it when the stock to bond ratio gets out of whack. Or you can check it once a year and adjust it if things are out of whack. 81/19 is not out of whack, but you may decide that 86/14 is far enough from your target that you want to adjust it back.You said earlier to add maybe 5% bonds every year. If I follow that should that keep me pretty much on track?
I think I said to add 5% bonds ever 5 years. This is just to make your portfolio more conservative as you grow older.
Chwrit wrote:I am a 73 yr. old working part- time, self- employed professional Ph.D. In Education.
No other savings at all.
All my assets are at Scottrade: about $14,000.
Home unsold, worth about $500,000.
STOCKS:
AAPL= $3500
GOOG=$1280
QCOM=$400
OVTI=$400
GHL=$440
JPM=$450
ETFs
SPY=$450
IPE=$180
FMU=$2530
FTQ=$2559
FGD=$1200
I need to know which ETF BONDS or other Bond Funds or whatever to balance the stocks.
I am open to other suggestions.
Thank you.
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