Please Try Out Test Posts Here

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[The moderator has "stickied" this thread to put at the top every time the forum is displayed. If you want to try out some forum feature, use this thread for your test posts.]

Note: Test posts may be deleted after the poster has a chance to see that everything is working. So make sure you have a copy of anything you post here that you want to save.

The is a test post for the purpose of demonstrating the features of the new board.

1. Including a link is easy. No more entering html code. Just paste the link url. That's it! For example, here's a link to Vanguard home page:

http://www.vanguard.com

2. Formatting text is easy. Just highlight a block of text, hit the 'B' button for bold, 'i' for italics, 'u' for underline. For example:

Vanguard Diehards Forum

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The is a test post for the purpose of demonstrating the features of the new board.

Quoting the post you are responding to is also easy. Just hit the quote button before you reply.

Edit: corrected typo

Editing a post is also easy. If you made typo or want to make clarification, no problem! Just hit the Edit button. Common usage requires that you put a note at the end saying what you edited, but it's totally up to you!

[tfb]

Testing creating a table. Hit the Code button, paste the table, then hit the Code button again.

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Returns as of 01/31/2007
                           1 Year    5 Year    10 Year
                           ---------------------------
Admiral Trsy Money Mkt     4.80%     2.34%     3.67%
Federal Money Mkt Fund     4.90%     2.32%     3.72%
Prime Money Mkt Fund       4.98%     2.35%     3.77%
Treasury Money Mkt Fund    4.64%     2.17%     3.50%

Not bad!

[tfb]

I found a much easier way to format text. Maybe others already knew. Just select the part of the text you want to format ("highlight" it), then hit the 'B' button for bold, 'i' for italics, 'u' for underline.

Updated first post.

[Bylo Selhi]

is there a spell checker?

Not built into the forum software, however, there are add-ons.

In any case, if you want spell checking, why not get a free web browser that has spell checking built-in so that you can benefit from it all the time?

[tfb]

If you use IE, there is ieSpell:

http://www.iespell.com/

[Bylo Selhi]

Hi TFB: How do I quote just a part of somebody's posting? I have tried using the Quote feature, but it captures the entire post (then, I simply cut out the part I don't want).

That's probably the easiest way to do it.

Alternatively, I can use the M* method of cutting and pasting from the other conversation and highlighting the text, but that leaves the author's name off.

You can also highlight the text you want to quote then click on the Quote button. That won't insert the author's name but you can add it by appending ="username." In fact, you can append almost anything you like as I did here using this:

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[quote="The esteemed poster Wagnerjb"]Alternatively...off.[/quote]

[simba]

Andy - There are may roads to Dublin

One option is what you are doing
Second option is copy the content you want to quote (could be from the earlier post or from another website) and in your reply hit the "Quote" button, paste the content you want to quote and then hit the Quote button.

Same goes for bold/italics/underline etc.

[tfb]

1. To change font color, highlight a block of text, select a color in the "Font colour" dropdown (phpBB is written by Brits?).

red text

green text

2. To change font size, highlight a block of text, select a size in the "Font size" dropdown.

large size

small size

3. Preview to see how it looks like and then Submit.

[simba]

Also, I would like to know how to display tables (something with aligned rows and columns).

http://www.diehards.org/forum/faq.php?mode=bbcode

gives an intro to bbcode on how to create lists/tables / including images etc

[hansp]

How do you include a graph from a spreadsheet?

TIA

Lynn

From the bbCodeGuide

...the image you display must already be available on the Internet (it cannot exist only on your computer, for example, unless you run a webserver!). There is currently no way of storing images locally with phpBB (all these issues are expected to be addressed in the next release of phpBB). To display an image, you must surround the URL pointing to the image with tags.

Looks like for now:

1. you'd have to save the graph as an image file
2. put it up on the web somewhere
3. link to that url with the img tags

[hansp]

Lists (like the one in my previous post) are easy!

For a bulleted list:

• Click "List"
• Type * inside [] followed by the text for each item in your list
• Click "List" again to end the list

For an ordered list:

1. Do the same as above, except click "List="
2. Put a "1" after the =
3. You still use a * in [] for each item
4. the software knows to increment each item

Doing the same as above except with an "a" instead of a "1" will give:

1. An alphabetical list

Check out http://www.diehards.org/forum/faq.php?mode=bbcode#6 for more details.

Hans

[CyberBob]

How do you include a graph from a spreadsheet?

1. you'd have to save the graph as an image file
2. put it up on the web somewhere
3. link to that url with the img tags

Step 1) For a really simple way, try pressing the Print Screen button on your keyboard, which will take a snapshot of your screen, and then pasting into a graphics program. Save as PNG or JPG for best quality, or if it's a simple graph without a lot of color, GIF will work.

Step 2) Host the image at ImageShack. It's simple and free. (Unless its a really detailed graph, you'll probably want to check the resize option to make the graphic a manageable size. An example 640x480 sized image is shown below and may be about the maximum size you need).

Step 3) Once you push the Host It! button at ImageShack, it will show you a whole bunch of URL addresses. Use the bottom URL to paste into your message here.

[Bylo Selhi]

Host the image at ImageShack.

I prefer http://tinypic.com/ because it's even simpler to use and it produces IMG links without referbacks.

Also, there's a companion site that's worth mentioning, http://tinyurl.com/ A lot of forum software, including phpBB, doesn't handle long URLs very well. In phpBB's case, it stretches the width of thread displays making them very hard to read. (There's a MOD to phpBB that addresses this problem that I imagine is on Phoenix's and Alex's to-do list (hint, hint ))

Another reason for using tinyURL.com is that phpBB sometimes has trouble with URLs that contain special characters. If you see that when you Preview a post, just use tinyURL.com to make the URL compatible with phpBB.

[Bylo Selhi]

Check out this thread: Making Avatars from Photos

[AzRunner]

My question is how do you access these bbcode details or other such faq details without knowing the specific link In other words, how do I click to see it?

When you are posting, look down in the lower left-hand corner, under Options
It only shows up while you are posting (i.e. when needed), not when you are just reading.
Bob

Bob, Thanks. That's pretty subtle .

Norm

[bob90245]

I am going to test the font size.

This is regular text and normal (12 point) font size.

This is quoted text and normal (12 point) font size.

This is quoted text and (13 point) font size.

This is quoted text and (14 point) font size.

This is quoted text and large (18 point) font size.

Is it just me? Or does the quoted text appear smaller than regular (unquoted) text? It looks like if I wanted to match sizes, I should use 13 point in the quoted text (and not use normal size for quoted text) in order to be the same size (in appearance) as normal (non-quoted) text.

Edit 1:

OK, let's try this.

This is regular text and normal (12 point) font size.

This is quoted text and (13 point) font size.

[bob90245]

Let's compare sizes again.

Is it just me? Or does the quoted text appear smaller than regular (unquoted) text?

I never noticed before because I'm an unnoticing kind of person, but do believe you are right.

Kathy

Here's something else I notice. The first (nested) quote from me appears to be a smaller size. But the outer quote (arrete's) looks normal size.

I know what you you're thinking. Does size really matter?

Maybe not. But when I quote a long passage like I did HERE, I at least want to make sure it is not too small to read.

[CyberBob]

Now if I only can figure out those other features...

Check out the page on BBCode.

Bob

[CyberBob]

Step 3) Once you push the Host It! button at ImageShack, it will show you a whole bunch of URL addresses. Use the bottom URL to paste into your message here.

TinyPic works really well too, and will even give you the URL with the [IMG] tags already in it.

Bob

[Mel Lindauer]

Test

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Date   Fed Funds   91 day T   10 yr T   30 yr T
1/2/2008   4.10%   3.25%   3.91%   4.35%
1/3/2008   4.25%   3.23%   3.89%   4.37%
1/4/2008   4.20%   3.20%   3.86%   4.36%
1/7/2008   4.26%   3.25%   3.83%   4.34%
1/8/2008   4.28%   3.22%   3.78%   4.31%


Hi HueyLD:

That's the best aligned chart I've seen on the forum. Perhaps you might explain exactly how you did it. (It appears you used tabs?)

Regards,

Mel

[HueyLD]

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Date   Fed Funds   91 Day   10 Yr   30 Yr
01/02/08   4.10%   3.25%   3.91%   4.35%
01/03/08   4.25%   3.23%   3.89%   4.37%
01/04/08   4.20%   3.20%   3.86%   4.36%
01/07/08   4.26%   3.25%   3.83%   4.34%
01/08/08   4.28%   3.22%   3.78%   4.31%


Mel,
I copied a highlighted range in an Excel spreadsheet and pasted it onto this forum. Pretty straightforward. Thanks for your kind remarks.

[sschullo]

Hi,
I am also just trying this out.

This table contains the basic financial concepts we discuss frequently on this site (scroll way down). I wanted to experiment using the compare/contrast strategy for better understanding and comprehension (I am a retired teacher). I labeled them as the old 20th century way of investing versus the new 21st century thinking.

Many of the 21st century concepts and ideas originated in the 20th century, however, these ideas have survived, developed and replaced some of the old, discredited ideas because they don't work on the behalf of 21 century informed and self taught investor.

Thanks to Taylor's investment gems and my readings, I have simply borrowed the ideas from the authors listed on this forum and a few are from my experiences.

One last thing, I have used HTML code to create this table but the lines do not show even though the table looks perfect on my browser. The other annoying result is that the display is the blank space between my message here and the table down below. I am told there is no work around.
Thanks,
Steve

[Note from Admin Alex. I figured out a workaround. You have to take all the line breaks out of the HTML code. It makes for messy code, but it displays OK. I've done this with the following table]

<table> <tr> <th BGCOLOR="#99CCFF"> 20th Century Thinking About Investing, Finances and Money</th> <th BGCOLOR="#99CCFF"> 21st Century Thinking About Investing, Finances and Money</th> </tr> <tr> <td>1. Being sold a product</td> <td>1. Purchasing an investment</td> </tr> <tr> <td>2. Active Strategy</td> <td>2. Passive Strategy</td> </tr> <tr> <td>3. Individual stocks</td> <td>3. Low cost mutual funds</td> </tr> <tr> <td>4. Managed funds</td> <td>4. Index funds</td> </tr> <tr> <td>5. Adviser/Investment guru/Famous manager's responsibility</td> <td>5. Individual responsibility</td> </tr> <tr> <td>6. Complicated, exclusive, sophisticated plan</td> <td>6. Simple Plan</td> </tr> <tr> <td>7. One way communication from adviser to client</td> <td>7. Two way communication between adviser and client</td> </tr> <tr> <td>8. Inefficient Market</td> <td>8. Efficient Market Hypothesis/Modern Portfolio Theory</td> </tr> <tr> <td>9. Biased information from an insurance agent/broker/adviser</td> <td>9. Objective information and discussion from "self help" non professional Internet forums</td> </tr> <tr> <td>10. Invest strictly in US domestic equities</td> <td>10. World Wide investing in economies</td> </tr> <tr> <td>11. Invest in hot sectors</td> <td>11. Invest in different asset classes</td> </tr> <tr> <td>12. Predicting and timing the market</td> <td>12. Sticking with a plan</td> </tr> <tr> <td>13. Highly aggressive exciting actively managed portfolio</td> <td>13. Diversified "boring" passive portfolio</td> </tr> <tr> <td>14. Owning a few company stocks</td> <td>14. Asset allocation, diversifying and rebalancing when needed</td> </tr> <tr> <td>15. Investing experience is fun, active, dynamic (bull market), "I am confident in my abilities!"</td> <td>15. Investing is routine, ordinary and balanced with overall life activities</td> </tr> <tr> <td>16. Investing experience is consuming and terrible (bear market), "I was ripped off by the system!"</td> <td>16. Investing is routine, ordinary and balanced with overall life activities</td> </tr> <tr> <td>17. Vulnerable by depending on a professional 100%</td> <td>17. Protected by self education</td> </tr> <tr> <td>18. Rarely/never looking at your investments OR tracking every stock or portfolio several times a day</td> <td>18. Have a plan and rebalance when needed</td> </tr> <tr> <td>19. Investing in 100% equities</td> <td>19. Including bonds, REITS, ETFs</td> </tr> <tr> <td>20. Selecting investments primarily based on the hype of past performance and future prediction</td> <td>20. Past and future performance are unimportant and categorically ignored</td> </tr> <tr> <td>21. Strive for that perfect portfolio that beats the benchmarks</td> <td>21. Strive for a diversified low cost portfolio</td> </tr> <tr> <td>22. Employee bargaining units endorsing specific and expensive vendors and financial planners</td> <td>22. Bargain units offering objective financial information to members</td> </tr> <tr> <td>23. Investing in individual stocks, sectors or managed funds</td> <td>23. Investing in indexes that track the broad economies</td> </tr> <tr> <td>24. Professional led and biased</td> <td>24. Non professional, self help led and objective</td> </tr> <tr> <td>25. Naive investor</td> <td>25. Informed and common sense investor</td> </tr> <tr> <td>26. Misled</td> <td>26. Candor with full transparency</td> </tr> <tr> <td>27. Relies on Wall Street mania and talking head business news</td> <td>27. Relies on self education and common sense</td> </tr> <tr> <td>28. Takes Wall Street noise as great tips</td> <td>28. Ignores Wall Street NOISE totally</td> </tr> <tr> <td>29. Thinks short term</td> <td>29. Thinks long term</td> </tr> <tr> <td>30. Hoping to beat the benchmarks/constantly searching for THE gimmick</td> <td>30. Opting for benchmark returns with an intrinsically boring portfolio</td> </tr> <tr> <td>31. Omission of important information almost always related to costs</td> <td>31. Transparency of information including revenue sharing costs, 12b(1) fees, loads, commissions, etc.</td> </tr> <tr> <td>32. Believe that the financial future is predictable</td> <td>32. Financial future is totally unpredictable</td> </tr> <tr> <td>33. Have a terrible time admitting not knowing</td> <td>33. Can honestly and courageously assess when we do not know</td> </tr> <tr> <td>34. Can never admit that you are your worst enemy</td> <td>34. Can honestly and courageously handle the truth about yourself</td> </tr> <tr> <td>35. Getting rich</td> <td>35. Building wealth</td> </tr> <tr> <td>36. Save every penny (miser) OR borrow and spend recklessly</td> <td>36. Living a meaningful and full, but frugal life</td> </tr> <tr> <td>37. Investment fees are immaterial</td> <td>37. Investment fees matter significantly</td> </tr> <tr> <td>38. Embracing, believing and living the consumer culture</td> <td>38. Ignoring consumerism and opting for the goal of being financially independent</td> </tr> <tr> <td>39. Expense ratios are for marketing, serving and managing and worth every penny</td> <td>39. Expense ratios are the best predictors of performance (2002 study by F.R. Corp</td> </tr> <tr> <td>40. Investments and speculations are synonymous</td> <td>40. Investments and speculations are antonyms</td> </tr> <tr> <td>41. Trader</td> <td>41. Buy and hold</td> </tr> <tr> <td>42. Mixing investments with insurance products</td> <td>42. Keep investments and insurance needs separate</td> </tr> <tr> <td>43. Stock market information has preordained and predictable patterns</td> <td>43. Stock market information is completely and totally random</td> </tr> <tr> <td>44. Market is inefficient with predictable anomalies which are easily exposed for your benefit</td> <td>44. Market is efficient and smarter than the wisest professionals on Wall Street</td> </tr> <tr> <td>45. Professional management's number 1 priority is to sell</td> <td>45. Fee only advisers must put the interests of clients first or are in violation of their fiduciary responsibilities</td> </tr> <tr> <td>46. Hire a commissioned based adviser/broker</td> <td>46. Hire a fee only adviser and pay "out of pocket" as with all other professionals</td> </tr> <tr> <td>47. Mutual fund companies are owned by management</td> <td>47. Vanguard is owned by share holders</td> </tr> <tr> <td>48. Beat the market averages is the priority</td> <td>48. Reducing risk and costs are the priority</td> </tr> <tr> <td>49. Endless portfolio quantitative analyses: Beta, Alpha, R-Squared, Monte Carlo, Sharp Ratio</td> <td>49. No mathematical analysis know today can accurately predict future returns over long periods of time</td> </tr> <tr> <td>50. Denying, avoiding and forever negatively reacting to mistakes</td> <td>50. Learn from all mistakes, adjust portfolio accordingly and move on</td> </tr> <tr> <td>51. Don't make mistakes</td> <td>51. Doing something new almost always involves some mistakes: learn from them</td> </tr> <tr> <td>52. Sales pitch from people in dark silk suits as gospel truisms</td> <td>52. Knowing the crucial difference between sales pitches and objective information</td> </tr> <tr> <td>53. Using reams of past performance calculations, fund managers bios and star ratings to decide</td> <td>53. Forge ahead NEVER knowing future returns: That's a fact, now deal with it</td> </tr> <tr> <td>54. Source of financial information is bias towards the professional's self interests</td> <td>54. Source of financial information is objective towards the individual investor's self interest</td> </tr> <tr> <td>55. Never settle for market averages: averages is always a bad thing</td> <td>55. Average market returns are an absolutely valid goal: Averages are a great thing</td> </tr> <tr> <td>56. Never challenge authority</td> <td>56. Always ask questions about fees, services, philosophy, passive vs. active management</td> </tr> <tr> <td>57. Impulse buying or selling securities</td> <td>57. Creating a plan and sticking with it</td> </tr> <tr> <td>58. The financial management profession is the most lucrative profession in the world (KPMG consultant quote)</td> <td>58. Unfortunately, the financial management profession is STILL the most lucrative profession in the world</td> </tr> </table>

[ruralavalon]

I am trying to learn how to post links without having to type them all out.

Here is one attempt to link to Books of Interest. http://www.bogleheads.org/readbooks.htm.

Here is an attempt to link to a Vanguard article. https://institutional.vanguard.com/VGAp ... teeProgram

[HueyLD]

How do I make a word a link. For example if I want do display:Please check either yahoo or google.

I want to the word yahoo and google clickable and directs to the page quote.yahoo.com and finance.google.com respectively. But I don't want to use the URL directly. I want to use the word yahoo or google as the item to click.

The instructions are HERE

[Mel Lindauer]

trying to corect a post i previously submitted. used edit button but did not change text.

When you hit "edit", you get a box similar to the one you originally typed your message in, except it now contains your message, as posted.

Simply make your changes in that box and then hit "Submit" again, so the new changes can take effect.

[lostcowboy]

testing a image.

[LadyGeek]

New ETF investing FAQ link test.

Please see the ETF Investing FAQ on the Bogleheads Wiki.

[slowmoney]

Slowmoney wrote:

[Just one more. Then I'll have something potentially interesting to post.quote]

This is a test. [/quote]

[slowmoney]

slowmoney

Does this work.

[Majormajor78]

test

[musbane]

Test

[musbane]

Test

[Market345]

testing

[#Cruncher]

In this post, RobG reported he couldn't see the two images I referenced with the HTML "img" tag. When I created it I thought I closed the tag (with the "/>" shortcut) but when I look at the source I see only ">". So I'm going to try again:

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<img src="http://web.me.com/rlhinkley/bheads/TIPSAuctions_2011_0429.gif" width="800" height="450">

Wow! even inside the "code" the "/>" gets changed to ">"

<img src="http://web.me.com/rlhinkley/bheads/TIPSAuctions_2011_0429.gif" width="800" height="450">

Now I'm going to explicitly close it.

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<img src="http://web.me.com/rlhinkley/bheads/TIPSAuctions_2011_0429.gif" width="800" height="450"></img>

<img src="http://web.me.com/rlhinkley/bheads/TIPSAuctions_2011_0429.gif" width="800" height="450"></img>

[RobG]

It still don't work

[LadyGeek]

? I see both of #Cruncher's graphs.

[xerty24]

? I see both of #Cruncher's graphs.

What graphs? He has some nice HTML code but no pictures as I see it...

Edit: Can see them in Chrome, not in Firefox 3.6.17.

[Sidney]

? I see both of #Cruncher's graphs.

What graphs? He has some nice HTML code but no pictures as I see it...

Edit: Can see them in Chrome, not in Firefox 3.6.17.

I can't see them in FF either. They are there in IE tho.

[LadyGeek]

I removed the scaling, just the URL and will let phpBB do the scaling.

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[img]http://web.me.com/rlhinkley/bheads/TIPSAuctions_2011_0429.gif[/img]

No problem to see the image above. I'm using Firefox 4.0.1 in Ubuntu Linux. Maybe because it's a .GIF file?

Try this .png:

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[imghttp://www.bogleheads.org/w/images/a/ad/Compasslogocapturedemo.png[/img]

Next, a .jpg:

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[img]http://www.bogleheads.org/w/images/a/a2/ConcordiaResPC.jpg[/img]

(Image used here: Mutual Fund History )

[HiM]

Great info here, thanks.

[elsie]

Don't want to add a new subject

[elsie]

Suppose I did add a subject line.

[RENO]

Great info here, thanks

[Transplant]

Great info here, thanks

I agree. This is a test.

[Parthenon]

See if I can go back and correct spelling errors in the subject line.

Yes, spelling errors can be corrected. Makes me wonder why people let those errors go uncorrected unless they are not aware.

[johnp2]

Test[quote][/quote]

[Knollhouse]

I agree. This is a test.

Testing quoting

[LadyGeek]

Hello, world.

Test test test test test

test test test

[OZAR]

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