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Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby Xanadu » Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:41 pm

Similar to Facebook, why not add a "like" button feature to posters comments? I often see posts that I want to express my "likeness" for, but don't want to quote the whole post just to say "great post!". Just a thought. :D
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby gkaplan » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:13 pm

Similar to Facebook, why not add a "like" button feature to posters comments? I often see posts that I want to express my "likeness" for, but don't want to quote the whole post just to say "great post!". Just a thought.


Just use part of the quote and use ellipses for the missing test.

(Count me as one not wanting a "like" button. This is an investing forum, not a social forum.)
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby pennstater2005 » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:23 pm

Please no like button. I'm not 12.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby EmergDoc » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:24 pm

They should be orange. :)
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby Raybo » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:28 pm

One forum I frequent (crazyguyonabike.com) has an agree tag that can be clicked to replace separate posts with only the smily face/thumbs up graphics in them.

Like that idea.

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby NAVigator » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:51 pm

gkaplan wrote:This is an investing forum, not a social forum.)

agree

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby Xanadu » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:57 pm

pennstater2005 wrote:Please no like button. I'm not 12.


I'm not 12 either.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby ryuns » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:57 pm

pennstater2005 wrote:Please no like button. I'm not 12.


Just because Facebook does it doesn't mean it's somehow reserved for social networking or 12 year olds. It could conceivably be a way to allow readers to focus on the posts that other people found the most useful. Given the amount of time I spend her relative to some others, I'd personally find this useful, especially for threads that I've missed and have expanded to several pages.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby ryuns » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:58 pm

Xanadu wrote:
pennstater2005 wrote:Please no like button. I'm not 12.


I'm not 12 either.


So no one's 12 then. Good to see so much agreement here. This would be a good use for a like button--everyone could agree that they're not 12.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby LadyGeek » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:01 pm

It's been discussed before, check this thread: I Wish There Was. "Like" Button. The short answer is that there will not be any "like" button in this forum.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby Munir » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:13 pm

LadyGeek wrote:It's been discussed before, check this thread: I Wish There Was. "Like" Button. The short answer is that there will not be any "like" button in this forum.


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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby Fallible » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:15 pm

gkaplan wrote:[...(Count me as one not wanting a "like" button. This is an investing forum, not a social forum.)

+1
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby 1530jesup » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:25 pm

pennstater2005 wrote:Please no like button. I'm not 12.


I like this post :thumbsup
There, that felt good...

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby Ryan_in_Chi » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:35 pm

I understand not wanting a "Like" button.

But, one of the forums I visit has a "Thanks" button. I like that. It would be nice to be able to thank people for a post where you learn something, but have nothing to add to merit responding. Something to consider.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby EmergDoc » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:38 pm

Has it really been that long since Morningstar's botched forum adjustments? Am I the only one who remembers the little orange flags and how much fun we had with them?
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby Sheepdog » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:47 pm

LadyGeek wrote:It's been discussed before, check this thread: I Wish There Was. "Like" Button. The short answer is that there will not be any "like" button in this forum.

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby LadyGeek » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:48 pm

EmergDoc wrote:Has it really been that long since Morningstar's botched forum adjustments? Am I the only one who remembers the little orange flags and how much fun we had with them?

No, see this post. Your response followed. :)
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby bottlecap » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:50 pm

Xanadu wrote:Similar to Facebook, why not add a "like" button feature to posters comments? I often see posts that I want to express my "likeness" for, but don't want to quote the whole post just to say "great post!". Just a thought. :D


There are a lot of problems with a like button, but the primary problem is it adds no value. Who cares if you or I agree with a post? If it is that important to show your affirmation, surely you have something constructive to add, no?

It's also not precise. Do you completely agree with everything in the post, or mostly agree? Or agree with the primary notion put forward?

Finally, if we don't know who you are, what good is your "like" recommendation? Why should we have anonymous voting on a forum where people are searching for the right answers, not the most popular ones?

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby LadyGeek » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:51 pm

Sheepdog wrote:"Like"

:thumbsup BTW, there's also: :thumbsdown Click on "View more smilies" under the main list.

I have a feeling I shouldn't have mentioned that. :oops:
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby hicabob » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:59 pm

On-line approval indicators makes some people become "karma whores".
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby Xanadu » Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:12 pm

bottlecap wrote:There are a lot of problems with a like button, but the primary problem is it adds no value. Who cares if you or I agree with a post? If it is that important to show your affirmation, surely you have something constructive to add, no?


I disagree. So far in this thread alone, ive seen 4 posts with one-liners such as "+1" or "agree". To me this pollutes the thread and requires extra mouse-scrolling on my part. A simple button would resolve this, and to me that's where the value is. Also, I bet for those 4 people, there were probably 100 others that also agreed, but just didn't want to add to add the extra post. A button would add lots of value from this perspective as well.

It's also not precise. Do you completely agree with everything in the post, or mostly agree? Or agree with the primary notion put forward?

yes.

Finally, if we don't know who you are, what good is your "like" recommendation? Why should we have anonymous voting on a forum where people are searching for the right answers, not the most popular ones?


who said is has to be anonymous? on facebook you can see everyone who likes your posts.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby Ed 2 » Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:14 pm

Because we diversifying,we like everyone who posting here. 8-)
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby bottlecap » Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:56 pm

Xanadu wrote:I disagree. So far in this thread alone, ive seen 4 posts with one-liners such as "+1" or "agree". To me this pollutes the thread and requires extra mouse-scrolling on my part. A simple button would resolve this, and to me that's where the value is.


I meant that it adds no content value. I don't know about your mouse, but mine scrolls easily up and down the page with little effort. You could put a new mouse on your Christmas wish list!

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby chaz » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:16 pm

Fallible wrote:
gkaplan wrote:[...(Count me as one not wanting a "like" button. This is an investing forum, not a social forum.)

+1

+2.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby jonesy » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:29 pm

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LadyGeek wrote:It's been discussed before, check this thread: I Wish There Was. "Like" Button. The short answer is that there will not be any "like" button in this forum.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby chaz » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:44 pm

LadyGeek wrote:
Sheepdog wrote:"Like"

:thumbsup BTW, there's also: :thumbsdown Click on "View more smilies" under the main list.

I have a feeling I shouldn't have mentioned that. :oops:

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby Xanadu » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:20 pm

bottlecap wrote:
Xanadu wrote:I disagree. So far in this thread alone, ive seen 4 posts with one-liners such as "+1" or "agree". To me this pollutes the thread and requires extra mouse-scrolling on my part. A simple button would resolve this, and to me that's where the value is.


I meant that it adds no content value. I don't know about your mouse, but mine scrolls easily up and down the page with little effort. You could put a new mouse on your Christmas wish list!

JT


I would agree with you that it adds minimal content value at best. I probably wouldn't value a post much more if it had a "like"/"agree"/(insert clever verb here), just as much as I don't really value the posts that just say "+1" after a long quote. It's not that it adds content value so much as people just want a way to say "heck yea, i hear what your saying!". Maybe its just me, but I'd rather have some kind of "+1" counter on the original post rather scrolling through these extra posts that have "no content value". I looked for a mouse on Amazon that will automatically scroll through these for me, but haven't found one yet. :wink:
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby englishgirl » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:05 am

I'd like a like button. Just sayin'.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby ndchamp » Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:36 am

I don't want a "Like" button.
Now, a "Dislike" button might be worth considering. :annoyed
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby gotherelate » Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:51 am

Ryan_in_Chi wrote:I understand not wanting a "Like" button.

But, one of the forums I visit has a "Thanks" button. I like that. It would be nice to be able to thank people for a post where you learn something, but have nothing to add to merit responding. Something to consider.

We already have a "Thanks" button. His name is chaz. :wink:
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby sscritic » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:06 am

The posts that stand out for me are the posts I don't like. They state as fact things that aren't true; they are responses to posts that the poster clearly did not bother to read; etc. There are so many ways a post can be bad. At a minimum, I would like a FF button (false facts) and a TR (try reading) button for those posts. These buttons would save me a lot of typing time (and might help keep me out of trouble).

Just as a like button might lead others to read a good post, we should give as much effort to steering people away from bad posts.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby VictoriaF » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:15 am

chaz wrote:
Fallible wrote:
gkaplan wrote:[...(Count me as one not wanting a "like" button. This is an investing forum, not a social forum.)

+1

+2.


As this a financial forum you should reply with +$, +$$, etc., rather than +1, +2 ...

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby sscritic » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:32 am

VictoriaF wrote:
chaz wrote:
Fallible wrote:
gkaplan wrote:[...(Count me as one not wanting a "like" button. This is an investing forum, not a social forum.)

+1

+2.


As this a financial forum you should reply with +$, +$$, etc., rather than +1, +2 ...

Victoria

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby KyleAAA » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:47 am

The value of a "like" button isn't to add to the forum experience, it's to draw in more readers.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby sscritic » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:50 am

KyleAAA wrote:The value of a "like" button isn't to add to the forum experience, it's to draw in more readers.

How are people outside the forum going to see the like buttons? I am having trouble reconciling the "forum experience" that you are not adding to and "draw in."
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby Xanadu » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:48 am

sscritic wrote:The posts that stand out for me are the posts I don't like. They state as fact things that aren't true; they are responses to posts that the poster clearly did not bother to read; etc. There are so many ways a post can be bad. At a minimum, I would like a FF button (false facts) and a TR (try reading) button for those posts. These buttons would save me a lot of typing time (and might help keep me out of trouble).

Just as a like button might lead others to read a good post, we should give as much effort to steering people away from bad posts.


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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby KyleAAA » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:13 pm

sscritic wrote:
KyleAAA wrote:The value of a "like" button isn't to add to the forum experience, it's to draw in more readers.

How are people outside the forum going to see the like buttons? I am having trouble reconciling the "forum experience" that you are not adding to and "draw in."


Well if you use the facebook like buttons, it automatically happens.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby Fallible » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:30 pm

sscritic wrote:
VictoriaF wrote:
chaz wrote:
Fallible wrote:
gkaplan wrote:[...(Count me as one not wanting a "like" button. This is an investing forum, not a social forum.)

+1

+2.


As this a financial forum you should reply with +$, +$$, etc., rather than +1, +2 ...

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby VictoriaF » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:36 pm

Fallible wrote:+$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :sharebeer

:sharebeer

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby CaliJim » Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:05 pm

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby Calm Man » Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:46 pm

I don't like this post. How would I indicate that in the new system? I have never used facebook and will not. Do they have a not like or can you only like something? And sometimes I like something a little and sometimes I love it.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby chaz » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:04 pm

gotherelate wrote:
Ryan_in_Chi wrote:I understand not wanting a "Like" button.

But, one of the forums I visit has a "Thanks" button. I like that. It would be nice to be able to thank people for a post where you learn something, but have nothing to add to merit responding. Something to consider.

We already have a "Thanks" button. His name is chaz. :wink:

You got that right.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby ruralavalon » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:08 pm

pennstater2005 wrote:Please no like button. I'm not 12.

I agree.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby sscritic » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:15 pm

Calm Man wrote:I don't like this post. How would I indicate that in the new system? I have never used facebook and will not. Do they have a not like or can you only like something? And sometimes I like something a little and sometimes I love it.

The liking is outside Facebook. You read an article. You like it. You click on a button with an f on it (I think it is blue). That creates a post inside Facebook. I have never liked anything in my life, although I do have a Facebook account with zero friends. I could be all wrong about how it works. If I am close to correct, then I am not sure if bogleheads is the outside or the inside in this scenario. Ah, facts.

The Like button is one of Facebook's social plug-ins, which are for use on websites outside Facebook, a feature which launched April 21, 2010, as part of Facebook's Open Graph, an interface for integrating websites with Facebook's social graph. Speaking at Facebook's F8 developer conference on the day of the launch CEO Mark Zuckerberg said, "we are building a Web where the default is social."

Since then the feature has aroused scrutiny over privacy concerns because the social plug-ins allow Facebook to track visitors to participating sites across the web, even if those visitors do not click the Like button, are logged out of Facebook, or are not Facebook users at all. The Like button is implemented similarly to an advertising network, and as more sites participate, gives Facebook a vast amount of information about who visits which sites, and when.


Yup, that's just what I want for bogleheads: Mark Zuckerberg knowing everything I do.

Or would it be Alex knowing everything I do when I am not on bogleheads? As I said, I don't know who is in and who is out.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby BBL » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:01 pm

LadyGeek wrote:It's been discussed before, check this thread: I Wish There Was. "Like" Button. The short answer is that there will not be any "like" button in this forum.


How about these buttons:

- Contempt
- Ridicule
- Dismissal
- Not worthy of comment
- Vote poster out of the forum
- You deserve a timeout
- Is that a serious question?
- Do you really believe that?

Those we could use... :wink:
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby Calm Man » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:04 pm

ss critic, I have added something called "ghostery" as what they call a plug in for my Mozilla firefox browser. So the "f" doesn't show up anymore and I am happy I am not in the facebook universe. I actually have an account with 2 friends (daughter and some person who I accepted a frendship from but is not my friend) but removed all information once I learned about privacy issues.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby 22twain » Tue Dec 25, 2012 3:06 am

I'm a moderator on an academically-oriented forum that has a moderately strong social component. (We nerds have to stick together, you know.) A few times a year, we get requests to add a "Like" button or something similar. We don't do it because we think the technical quality or reliability of a post isn't something that should be judged by an open vote. Basically, most people reading a post aren't going to bother to vote, and it's too easy for a small group of people to skew the results in undesirable ways.

To help people identify posts that are likely to be good, the moderators as a group award "medals" to regular posters that we think are reliable and display a good attitude. A poster's medal shows up underneath his/her username on all posts.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Postby xram » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:59 pm

Munir wrote:
LadyGeek wrote:It's been discussed before, check this thread: I Wish There Was. "Like" Button. The short answer is that there will not be any "like" button in this forum.


+1 :)


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Like button for this site?

Postby Bogle1374 » Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:55 pm

[Thread merged into here, see below --admin LadyGeek]

I wish there were a like button on this site, or something akin to Facebook's "Like" button.
A lot of the comments are worth the affirmation, but we can only comment as such. I guess I'm lazy.
And it might be nice to see which comments/posts get likes.
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Re: Like button for this site?

Postby herbie » Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:01 pm

Commenting with +1 just adds clutter. I agree this would be a great feature.
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