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Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby Calm Man » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:30 pm

I figure I may as well ask this after several months. I am on the east coast and have the settings as such. It is now 5:29 PM (17:29). A post now is listed as if it was an hour later. Am I doing something wrong.
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby sscritic » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:30 pm

Yes, you don't live in Chicago. You should see the times we get on the West Coast.
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby Calm Man » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:31 pm

Yup, I sent it at 5:30 PM and it shows up as posted at 6:30 PM.
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby sscritic » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:32 pm

Calm Man wrote:Yup, I sent it at 5:30 PM and it shows up as posted at 6:30 PM.

It is now 2:30 out west, and my post and yours both show 3:30.
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby sscritic » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:33 pm

I have the answer: bogleheads is on perpetual daylight saving time.
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby retiredjg » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:40 pm

That's funny because all of these messages are showing up timed at 4:30 ish on my computer. Which is Chicago time. But calm man is saying it shows up 2 hours in the wrong direction, right?
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby Calm Man » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:42 pm

Guess what? Our computers are in the twilight zone. Yours says 3:30 when it is 2:30 and mine says 6P30 when it is 5:30. So at least the system recognizes time zones and your conclusion that bogleheads.org is on perpetual DST is probably the one. I will edit the title so maybe a moderator can see it and if they didn't know about this see if they are interested in correcting it. The world goes on regardless.
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby Alex Frakt » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:44 pm

It works perfectly for me :-)
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby sscritic » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:45 pm

Board preferences. Remove the check from the "use daylight saving time" radio button.

Wait a minute, or sixty! I just lost an hour (or did I gain one). :)

It's actually
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby Mel Lindauer » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:46 pm

Alex Frakt wrote:It works perfectly for me :-)


For those who don't know, Alex is in Chicago, and that's what time it's set for.
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby Alex Frakt » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:49 pm

Actually, displayed times are based on the "My timezone:" setting on this page: ucp.php?i=prefs&mode=personal
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby retiredjg » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:50 pm

I think it is working right for me - I'm in Utah and it is shortly after 3:30 here. But my posts show up as posted just after 4:30 which would be Chicago time. But how calm man is getting things posted 2 hours wrong is a mystery to me.
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby LadyGeek » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:50 pm

This thread is now in the Forum Issues and Administration forum.

Check your daylight savings time settings: User Control Panel --> Board Preferences --> Edit global settings --> Summer Time/DST is in effect: (No for me).

You need to change this manually.

For those not logged in, the timezone is set to US Eastern Timezone, Daylight Savings TIme is in effect. Why? Because that's where I set it. (This forum is worldwide, the East coast US +1/ 0 hours is good enough.)

To see how your time is displayed, you don't need to create a post. Just look in the upper left corner of the Board index
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby sscritic » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:50 pm

Alex Frakt wrote:Actually displayed times are based on the "My timezone:" setting on this page: ucp.php?i=prefs&mode=personal

You still have to answer the DST question correctly. That is very difficult for many of us.
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby damjam » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:54 pm

Alex Frakt wrote:Actually, displayed times are based on the "My timezone:" setting on this page: ucp.php?i=prefs&mode=personal

So we have to update this manually twice a year?
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby retiredjg » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:54 pm

sscritic wrote:
Alex Frakt wrote:Actually displayed times are based on the "My timezone:" setting on this page: ucp.php?i=prefs&mode=personal

You still have to answer the DST question correctly. That is very difficult for many of us.

Yes. I just changed mine and it took 3 tries to get it right....

So now things are posting at a time that is consistent with my time zone.
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby jayars35 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:01 pm

retiredjg wrote:
sscritic wrote:
Alex Frakt wrote:Actually displayed times are based on the "My timezone:" setting on this page: ucp.php?i=prefs&mode=personal

You still have to answer the DST question correctly. That is very difficult for many of us.

Yes. I just changed mine and it took 3 tries to get it right....

So now things are posting at a time that is consistent with my time zone.


On my computer, your message time states Monday, Jan 28 3:24 a.m. I am posting this on Sunday, Jan 27 at 6:01p.m.
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby damjam » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:03 pm

jayars35 wrote:
retiredjg wrote:
sscritic wrote:
Alex Frakt wrote:Actually displayed times are based on the "My timezone:" setting on this page: ucp.php?i=prefs&mode=personal

You still have to answer the DST question correctly. That is very difficult for many of us.

Yes. I just changed mine and it took 3 tries to get it right....

So now things are posting at a time that is consistent with my time zone.


On my computer, your message time states Monday, Jan 28 3:24 a.m. I am posting this on Sunday, Jan 27 at 6:01p.m.


Are you set to the correct timezone?
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby sscritic » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:07 pm

jayars35 wrote:On my computer, your message time states Monday, Jan 28 3:24 a.m. I am posting this on Sunday, Jan 27 at 6:01p.m.

You need a new battery for your computer's internal clock.
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby HueyLD » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:19 pm

On the forum page ( http://www.bogleheads.org/forum ), it correctly shows my local time. However, on the main page ( http://www.bogleheads.org/ ), it still shows the Chicago time. Is it the BH way of clocking? -:)
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby SSSS » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:27 pm

Just set it to UTC & learn to convert UTC timestamps to your local time. For example, US Central time is UTC-6 when DST is not active and UTC-5 when DST is active.
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby Calm Man » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:29 pm

retiredjg wrote:That's funny because all of these messages are showing up timed at 4:30 ish on my computer. Which is Chicago time. But calm man is saying it shows up 2 hours in the wrong direction, right?


I am saying it shows up ONE hour later (I don't know if that's the right or wrong direction).
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby sscritic » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:31 pm

HueyLD wrote:On the forum page ( http://www.bogleheads.org/forum ), it correctly shows my local time. However, on the main page ( http://www.bogleheads.org/ ), it still shows the Chicago time. Is it the BH way of clocking? -:)

If it doesn't say forum, it is not a Rolex. Bogleheads.org is a cheap knockoff.
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby Calm Man » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:35 pm

Well I set DST to off. Guess what -- the forum time is now correct at 6:30 PM. The time in the message is correct. But where the time of the last message posted is listed, it is now listed 1 hour BEHIND (meaning 5:30 PM --17:32). So I turned DST off and corrected one or two things but gained (lost - I don't know ) 2 hours flipping 1 hour to the other side. This is fun. I relogged on but will do it a few more times and maybe the server will get happy with me.
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby sscritic » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:50 pm

Are you looking at org or org/forum? They only agree in Chicago. Alex gets one perk for all his work.

For me, the last post on org is 17:48, on forum it is 3:48 pm aka 15:48. You go the other way I expect.
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby Alex Frakt » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:58 pm

damjam wrote:
Alex Frakt wrote:Actually, displayed times are based on the "My timezone:" setting on this page: ucp.php?i=prefs&mode=personal

So we have to update this manually twice a year?

Only if it bothers you enough to do it. I just leave mine set to the default. The order of posts and relative times between posts will always be correct. That's good enough for me.
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby likegarden » Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:06 pm

I am retired and do not care what forum clocks are saying. Only my clocks in my house need to be correct so I can keep any appointments.
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby zaplunken » Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:07 pm

I've had trouble with the time also. I thought I had it set correctly but I think the DST thing was my problem as I was always an hour off so I set my time zone to be 1 hour west of me to get the time correct. I'll see if the time is right now with this post. Hope so! :oops:

BINGO it was the DST thingie. posted at the time it is displaying I posted. :)
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby sscritic » Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:09 pm

Bernd wrote:I am retired and do not care what forum clocks are saying. Only my clocks in my house need to be correct so I can keep any appointments.

Do you run them 5 minutes ahead to account for your own slowing down? The timer on my sprinkler system loses about a minute a day, so I reset it about once a week. Otherwise I will end up violating my city's watering ordinance.
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby jayars35 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:30 pm

damjam wrote:
jayars35 wrote:
retiredjg wrote:
sscritic wrote:
Alex Frakt wrote:Actually displayed times are based on the "My timezone:" setting on this page: ucp.php?i=prefs&mode=personal

You still have to answer the DST question correctly. That is very difficult for many of us.

Yes. I just changed mine and it took 3 tries to get it right....

So now things are posting at a time that is consistent with my time zone.


On my computer, your message time states Monday, Jan 28 3:24 a.m. I am posting this on Sunday, Jan 27 at 6:01p.m.


Are you set to the correct timezone?


That was it. When I first joined, I set the time correctly. After your post, I checked again and I was on Afghanistan time! No idea how that happened as I had to figure out how to even change the time setting. All seems to be ok now. Thanks!
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Re: Is the time of messages incorrect?

Postby NAVigator » Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:58 pm

This is all a subtle reminder that as Bogleheads we should not attempt to time the market!

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