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Self Employment Question

Postby Gettingrich » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:18 am

Quick question:

I did not claim SE for 2012, but I will be for 2013. Is there any paperwork or anything that needs to be done ahead of time to show I'll be SE in 2013, or do I just file as SE come tax time? Been looking all around the net, just can't find anything. I will be SE as a professional gambler. I'm also a independent contractor for a company. Pretty sure there's some paper work for that, and they are currently looking into that for me. Thanks for your help.
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Re: Self Employment Question

Postby Gettingrich » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:43 pm

bueller? bueller ?
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Re: Self Employment Question

Postby Raybo » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:58 pm

There is no paper work the IRS requires you to fill out in advance.

Obviously, you may be required to sign contracts with employers and you will likely get 1099 forms for some/all of the revenue you earn. You won't get 1099s for some/all of your gaming wins and losses and I would suggest that you get a log book where you note date, time, place, and win/loss for each gambling session, so that, if necessary, you can show contemporaneous notes to bolster your tax form entries.
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Re: Self Employment Question

Postby mgcfo » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:18 pm

In the scenario you provide, there is probably nothing else you need to do (additional filings would be required if you were passing the income through a single member LLC taxed as an s-corp, but I doubt that's your situation).

As a professional gambler, you will file those earnings and expenses (if any) on Schedule C. In the contractor situation, those earnings will be listed on a second Schedule C. Make sure you track any out-of-pocket expenses to offset the contractor revenue on that applicable Schedule C.

In both cases, the payers will normally request a W-9 from you, but those are typically sent/mailed to you to complete which enables those entities to submit a 1099-Misc to you and the IRS each January.

I may be reading too much into your question, but on the paperwork question, there's always the possibility you may need a local business license in the contractor situation, but given the nature of the income, this is probably doubtful.
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Re: Self Employment Question

Postby livesoft » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:20 pm

Lots of great info here: http://www.irs.gov/publications/index.html Just read the ones with interesting titles first. They might lead to others to read.
This information has been prepared without taking into account the Sequestration, investment objectives, financial situation and particular needs of any particular person or company.
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Re: Self Employment Question

Postby Gettingrich » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:32 am

Perfect. I already have good record keeping, so that won't be an issue. Thanks for the help everyone.
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