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InvestoGuy
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Getting Canadian $

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Hello:
I may have to travel to Canada for a few days. Where will I get the best rate to convert USD to Canadian Dollars?
Should I do it at a local bank in the US or a bank in Canada or just go to the ATM in Canada and withdraw money there?
Thanks.
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I wouldn't go to a Canadian atm in order to get money. I would simply call a few local U.S. banks and see who has the best exchange rates.

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I think you'd get the best rate just pulling it out of an ATM. However, you need to watch for fees.
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Best rate will be at an ATM in Canada. Banks will fleece you, kiosks will just take all your dollars.

I haven't brought local currency to a country in over ten years. Always stop at the ATM when I arrive.
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Many Canadian hotels, bars, stores will take USD.

I can't tell you whether you will get a good exchange rate, but particularly in border cities and tourist places, USD is recognized.
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I am only talking a small amount here for food and entertainment, maybe $500-600 bucks.
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You will get the best exchange rate at a bank in Canada, especially for that small amount.
The rate is usually a couple cents less than the financial rate from
Bloomberg or what you see on yahoo finance. The casino is another cent less.
The only place Ive found that is better is the duty free shop in Ft Erie which has been par
for quite a while now - this is on purchases when coming back into the US.
Have fun up there !
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It has been a few years, but when I did travel to Canada more often, I found that almost all merchants in Canada gave very good exchange rates for US currency. You got the change back in Canadian currency/coin. Except, perhaps, for a few areas in the US with a lot of Canadian customers, Canadian merchants gave a more fair exchange rate that, I suspect, most American merchants would give Canadian customers with Canadian currency.
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If it's just for food/entertainment, I'd use a credit card (one that does not charge transaction fees). They give good rates and you don't run the risk of changing more than you need.
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dm200 wrote:It has been a few years, but when I did travel to Canada more often, I found that almost all merchants in Canada gave very good exchange rates for US currency. You got the change back in Canadian currency/coin. Except, perhaps, for a few areas in the US with a lot of Canadian customers, Canadian merchants gave a more fair exchange rate that, I suspect, most American merchants would give Canadian customers with Canadian currency.
Being of Scottish origin, most Canadians know good money whatever its funny monochrome printing ;-).
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Years ago, I was working downtown where all the banks were in walking distance. On my lunch hour, I just called all of them and asked what their exchange rate was. They were not all the same. I bought my Canadian dollars at the one with the best rate. When I came home, I did the same to sell the leftover Canadian dollars. The bank with the best rate for selling was not the same bank for buying.
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I have been to Canada many times (usually once or twice a year) and I have never been successful exchanging US Dollars into Canadian Dollars at a local Canadian bank. I have yet to find a bank that would do this for me without an account at the bank. I always have a local friend exchange the money for me. Do keep in mind that I have only tried this at the "Big 5" banks (Royal Bank, TD, CIBC, Bank of Montreal and Scotia Bank). You may have better luck at a smaller bank but I wouldn't count on it.

If you need cash, get it before you go even though you are not likely to get the best exchange rate this way. In my experience, the most convenient and cheapest method is to just use your credit card, assuming you have one with no foreign transaction fees (I use Capital One). Your US credit card will be accepted everywhere. I have had a few problems while paying for gas at the pump, but I have always been able to complete the transaction by visiting the cashier.
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I have not traveled to Canada recently but in traveling around the world I have found that bringing cash and exchanging it typically gives you the best exchange rate. Many credit cards charge 5% conversion fees, the better ones charge 1%. ATMs I have found charge 2 to 3 % which is a crummy deal. Most airports are set up so that one encounters two layers of exchange facilities. The first one you run into gives you a really bad rate. If you keep going toward the exit a better rate can be had. Most airports have maps of their facilities with exchanges noted online.
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I have travelled all over the world and determined it is best to withdraw the local currency from an ATM with a DEBIT CARD linked to your checking or MMA account in that specific country. Just check the exchange rate before and do the math ($USD to xxx) to make sure you have the money available in your accounts.

Get and Ally Debit ATM card linked to an Ally MMA or Checking account and they have always reimbursed me for fees charged (except the 1% conversion fee) abroad at other banks.
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investomajic wrote:I have been to Canada many times (usually once or twice a year) and I have never been successful exchanging US Dollars into Canadian Dollars at a local Canadian bank. I have yet to find a bank that would do this for me without an account at the bank. I always have a local friend exchange the money for me. Do keep in mind that I have only tried this at the "Big 5" banks (Royal Bank, TD, CIBC, Bank of Montreal and Scotia Bank). You may have better luck at a smaller bank but I wouldn't count on it.
This is hard to believe. I've exchanged USD for CAD at Canadian banks without any issues and not at bad rates. Perhaps if you were far from the border or in a smaller town there might be an issue. I would think that a Canadian ATM on the same system as your US Bank (C-Plus, Cirrus, etc) would give the best rate. This has been my experience in pretty much whatever country I have traveled to. Credit card exchange rates have been worse in my experience but that depends on your credit card according to previous discussions here. If it isn't that large an amount and you aren't far from the border, you could just ask a Canadian acquaintance to exchange it for you. They'd probably give you the spot rate. :happy
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crowd79 wrote:I have travelled all over the world and determined it is best to withdraw the local currency from an ATM with a DEBIT CARD linked to your checking or MMA account in that specific country. Just check the exchange rate before and do the math ($USD to xxx) to make sure you have the money available in your accounts.

Get and Ally Debit ATM card linked to an Ally MMA or Checking account and they have always reimbursed me for fees charged (except the 1% conversion fee) abroad at other banks.

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InvestoGuy wrote:I am only talking a small amount here for food and entertainment, maybe $500-600 bucks.
You're going to pay 1%-3% no matter how you do the exchange.

(Unless you change your money at the nudie bar -- in which case it might be 10%.)

I wouldn't spend a lot of time shopping around for a rate to save $10 or something.
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6miths wrote:
investomajic wrote:I have been to Canada many times (usually once or twice a year) and I have never been successful exchanging US Dollars into Canadian Dollars at a local Canadian bank. I have yet to find a bank that would do this for me without an account at the bank. I always have a local friend exchange the money for me. Do keep in mind that I have only tried this at the "Big 5" banks (Royal Bank, TD, CIBC, Bank of Montreal and Scotia Bank). You may have better luck at a smaller bank but I wouldn't count on it.
This is hard to believe. I've exchanged USD for CAD at Canadian banks without any issues and not at bad rates. Perhaps if you were far from the border or in a smaller town there might be an issue. I would think that a Canadian ATM on the same system as your US Bank (C-Plus, Cirrus, etc) would give the best rate. This has been my experience in pretty much whatever country I have traveled to. Credit card exchange rates have been worse in my experience but that depends on your credit card according to previous discussions here. If it isn't that large an amount and you aren't far from the border, you could just ask a Canadian acquaintance to exchange it for you. They'd probably give you the spot rate. :happy
But you are a resident of Canada no? So you probably have an account at one of these banks? I might not have been as clear as I could have been but keep in mind when I said I have not been successful converting US$ to CDN$ at local Canadian banks, it has been while using a bank teller, not an ATM. They have always required that the person exchanging the money have a bank account at the bank (again, this has been my experience). I was not in small towns either, these were in major cities between Toronto and Hamilton.

I have not tried using my ATM card in Canada.
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Couldn't you just stop in at a gas station to buy a candy bar with your credit card and ask for cash back?
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brianbooth wrote:Couldn't you just stop in at a gas station to buy a candy bar with your credit card and ask for cash back?
I don't believe merchants will allow cash back on a credit card at a point of sale in a store. Remember, the merchant has to pay a certain percentage (1% or something "merchant fee") of the sales transaction directly to the CC company.
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If where you're going has one in the area, the best place to exchange money in Canada is a casino. They charge no fees, because they want you to gamble and spend money.
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Do you have a Bank of America account? Use your debit card in a Scotiabank ATM. No ATM fees, and great exchange ratio.
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I travel to Canada yearly. I cannot recall a time when a place would not take US Dollars, and it has been 1 for 1 the past 2 years. This is in rural areas on the Canadian prairie. May be different in other parts. Usually not worth the hassle looking for a place to convert.
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investomajic wrote:
6miths wrote:
investomajic wrote:I have been to Canada many times (usually once or twice a year) and I have never been successful exchanging US Dollars into Canadian Dollars at a local Canadian bank. I have yet to find a bank that would do this for me without an account at the bank. I always have a local friend exchange the money for me. Do keep in mind that I have only tried this at the "Big 5" banks (Royal Bank, TD, CIBC, Bank of Montreal and Scotia Bank). You may have better luck at a smaller bank but I wouldn't count on it.
This is hard to believe. I've exchanged USD for CAD at Canadian banks without any issues and not at bad rates. Perhaps if you were far from the border or in a smaller town there might be an issue. I would think that a Canadian ATM on the same system as your US Bank (C-Plus, Cirrus, etc) would give the best rate. This has been my experience in pretty much whatever country I have traveled to. Credit card exchange rates have been worse in my experience but that depends on your credit card according to previous discussions here. If it isn't that large an amount and you aren't far from the border, you could just ask a Canadian acquaintance to exchange it for you. They'd probably give you the spot rate. :happy
But you are a resident of Canada no? So you probably have an account at one of these banks? I might not have been as clear as I could have been but keep in mind when I said I have not been successful converting US$ to CDN$ at local Canadian banks, it has been while using a bank teller, not an ATM. They have always required that the person exchanging the money have a bank account at the bank (again, this has been my experience). I was not in small towns either, these were in major cities between Toronto and Hamilton.

I have not tried using my ATM card in Canada.
Yes I'm a resident but have exchanged USD for CAD in banks where I don't have an account. I would go with the above suggestions and just use a compatible ATM or exchange at a merchant. I think the McDonalds down the street was at 1.04 with the spot rate at 1.017. Or look me up and I'll give you the spot rate. :D
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Valuethinker wrote:
Being of Scottish origin, most Canadians know good money whatever its funny monochrome printing ;-).
Do try to keep up, US currency has not been monochrome for some years.

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Epsilon Delta wrote:
Valuethinker wrote:
Being of Scottish origin, most Canadians know good money whatever its funny monochrome printing ;-).
Do try to keep up, US currency has not been monochrome for some years.

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Actually I think it was you guys who took a while to catch up, eh? :D
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Does Norbert's Gambit work for USA brokerage firms?. Its not obvious that it would just reading the link.
Probably not necessary for me as I have trouble visualizinga need fo ra 10k cash purchase in Canada
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investomajic wrote:I have been to Canada many times (usually once or twice a year) and I have never been successful exchanging US Dollars into Canadian Dollars at a local Canadian bank. I have yet to find a bank that would do this for me without an account at the bank. I always have a local friend exchange the money for me. Do keep in mind that I have only tried this at the "Big 5" banks (Royal Bank, TD, CIBC, Bank of Montreal and Scotia Bank). You may have better luck at a smaller bank but I wouldn't count on it.
There aren't really smaller banks in Canada. I mean there is National and Laurentian, and HSBC etc. have branches in Toronto. But really, that is Canadian banking. The other big place people keep deposits is Credit Unions.

Odd if a local branch does not do USD.
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Epsilon Delta wrote:
Valuethinker wrote:
Being of Scottish origin, most Canadians know good money whatever its funny monochrome printing ;-).
Do try to keep up, US currency has not been monochrome for some years.

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Fascinating.

http://www.newmoney.gov/currency/images.htm

*that* tells me since 2003. I think the last time I was in USA was in 2007, and I don't recall noticing (nor coming back with) color printed money.

Must have been a huge shock? Doesn't that kind of thing usually provoke a huge debate in the USA? Thinking your various struggles with a dollar coin?

Next you are going to tell me everyone uses dollar coins? ;-).
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Just use an ATM, using a bank or other currency exchange business is a rip off. I'm still amazed that currency exchange businesses are still open in international airports. Although for a 5% fee, I guess it is an ok way to launder small amounts of money.
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