VictoriaF wrote:I took a Coursera Model Thinking course and successfully completed it. It was an excellent course, and I started using some models almost immediately. To be clear, I am using models conceptually; a practical application of these models could take a separate course on each of them. Model Thinking will be offered again starting on 28 January 2013.
Victoria
HouseStark wrote:VictoriaF wrote:I took a Coursera Model Thinking course and successfully completed it. It was an excellent course, and I started using some models almost immediately. To be clear, I am using models conceptually; a practical application of these models could take a separate course on each of them. Model Thinking will be offered again starting on 28 January 2013.
Victoria
Is Model Thinking a prerequisite to Supermodel Thinking? I heard that one's really in demand.
Several people here have signed for A Beginner's Guide to Irrational Behavior taught by Dan Ariely based on his three Behavioral Economics books.
Calm Man wrote:Followup of the first day's lesson and test. Remember that I haven't taken a class in about 35 years and was a little cocky and probably didn't take it slowly enough. I did not do that well on the first test and don't think that Nash Equilibrium and Pareto dominance is so easy !!!!
Calm Man wrote:Followup of the first day's lesson and test. Remember that I haven't taken a class in about 35 years and was a little cocky and probably didn't take it slowly enough. I did not do that well on the first test and don't think that Nash Equilibrium and Pareto dominance is so easy !!!!
ryuns wrote:Unfortunately, I hadn't come to terms with the fact that their recommended 6-8 hours per week of work would truly mean that and possibly more...
VictoriaF wrote:ryuns wrote:Unfortunately, I hadn't come to terms with the fact that their recommended 6-8 hours per week of work would truly mean that and possibly more...
My edX course was taking me 10-16 hours a week, many more than nominally listed. I was spending most of my time working out examples and home-works using a statistical package Stata. In addition to learning and using Stata, the course featured two parallel sets of lectures (in Biostatistics and Epidemiology), guest speakers describing various trials, and papers to review. This was probably the first course I have ever dropped. It was embarrassing, but the course was preventing me from doing many other important things. I would retire just to be able to take it again.
Victoria
ryuns wrote:Calm Man wrote:Followup of the first day's lesson and test. Remember that I haven't taken a class in about 35 years and was a little cocky and probably didn't take it slowly enough. I did not do that well on the first test and don't think that Nash Equilibrium and Pareto dominance is so easy !!!!
I'm sad to admit that I dropped out of the fascinating coursera Astronomy course after two short weeks. The professor was quite good and I was blown away by how well they were able to use web learning for something like that (complete with high-quality and free wikibooks, links to free and reduced price price software and apps). Unfortunately, I hadn't come to terms with the fact that their recommended 6-8 hours per week of work would truly mean that and possibly more, even for those who were students within the last decade, and I wasn't committed enough to a "hobby" to be able to commit MORE time to staring at a computer after coming after a job that requires largely that. My life is not particularly stressful and my time post-work time is filled largely with other hobbies and passions; it was difficult to commit so firmly to one, and to one that used a part of my brain I had been using all day (as opposed to, say, gardening, exercise, music, movies, beer, or anything else I'm passionate about).
Anyway, it's a really great opportunity for people who are interested in the topics at hand and who can commit to the time required.
VictoriaF wrote:...
Several people here have signed for A Beginner's Guide to Irrational Behavior taught by Dan Ariely based on his three Behavioral Economics books. ...
Victoria
Fallible wrote: I also signed up for two more courses (one of which may conflict with Ariely) and am surprised I was able to stop at that. You can probably tell I'm a first-timer for online courses so I've got lots to learn about it and what I reasonably can (and want to) handle, thus this thread has been helpful. Lucky for me I am retired.
VictoriaF wrote:Fallible wrote: I also signed up for two more courses (one of which may conflict with Ariely) and am surprised I was able to stop at that. You can probably tell I'm a first-timer for online courses so I've got lots to learn about it and what I reasonably can (and want to) handle, thus this thread has been helpful. Lucky for me I am retired.
You also need time and energy for the Think-off.
Victoria
Fallible wrote:VictoriaF wrote:Fallible wrote: I also signed up for two more courses (one of which may conflict with Ariely) and am surprised I was able to stop at that. You can probably tell I'm a first-timer for online courses so I've got lots to learn about it and what I reasonably can (and want to) handle, thus this thread has been helpful. Lucky for me I am retired.
You also need time and energy for the Think-off.
Victoria
Remember, I’m retired, plus the Think-Off essay will be fun. But how will you find the time?
PaddyMac wrote:Fundaments for Personal Financial Planning
VictoriaF wrote:Several people here have signed for A Beginner's Guide to Irrational Behavior taught by Dan Ariely based on his three Behavioral Economics books.
Victoria
Calm Man wrote:Hi, I am not sure this fits into any of the forum categories but hopefully it is of sufficient interest to be maintained
Questions on how we spend our money and our time - consumer goods and services, home and vehicle, leisure and recreational activities
LadyGeek wrote:Take a look at the forum description under the Board index:Questions on how we spend our money and our time - consumer goods and services, home and vehicle, leisure and recreational activities
This is an investing and personal finance forum. We also maintain a subforum that allow our members to discuss consumer goods and services and recreational activities. Anything else is considered "Off Topic" and is not acceptable on this forum.
Calm Man wrote:Hi, I am not sure this fits into any of the forum categories but hopefully it is of sufficient interest to be maintained. I am in decision-making time for retirement. One of the ways I thought might be useful to pass time and sharpen the mind was to take courses. Well, there are a few online offerings, all free (for now). One is Coursera and I just began a course on game theory, which I love.
Have any of you done any of these courses and after awhile does this type of thing "get old" or does it continue to incite interest? Those who have done a few semesters might have a lot to offer.
VictoriaF wrote:VictoriaF wrote:Several people here have signed for A Beginner's Guide to Irrational Behavior taught by Dan Ariely based on his three Behavioral Economics books.
Victoria
Dan Ariely has just sent a welcome message for A Beginner's Guide to Irrational Behavior course. Perhaps, we can have a Bogleheads study group?
Victoria
VictoriaF wrote:Hi Fallible,
The real question is, "Did you click on the Don't Click Here button?"
Victoria
Fallible wrote:VictoriaF wrote:Hi Fallible,
The real question is, "Did you click on the Don't Click Here button?"
Victoria
What is that?
VictoriaF wrote:Fallible wrote:VictoriaF wrote:Hi Fallible,
The real question is, "Did you click on the Don't Click Here button?"
Victoria
What is that?
Have you visited the course site? There is a lot of information there! The above-mentioned button is just one of the things you must contemplate before the 25th.
Victoria
VictoriaF wrote:Hi Fallible,
The real question is, "Did you click on the Don't Click Here button?"
Victoria
LadyGeek wrote:MIT has a project that can assist with your question: don't press the red button
Fallible wrote:LadyGeek wrote:MIT has a project that can assist with your question: don't press the red button
This looks more "dangerous" than the don't-click button. I'll let VictoriaF handle this.
VictoriaF wrote:Fallible wrote:LadyGeek wrote:MIT has a project that can assist with your question: don't press the red button
This looks more "dangerous" than the don't-click button. I'll let VictoriaF handle this.
Ah, but don't you think that the color of the MIT's button makes all the difference? What if the button were soothingly green or baby blue? What if the text DO NOT PRESS were written in girlish handwriting? Would you feel more at ease clicking on it? ....
downshiftme wrote:There is usually some context surrounding the "do not do this" admonishion. That context matters a great deal. If I have reason to believe that I know better than the person giving the order, then I am almost certain to ignore the order (and might or might not do the thing, based on my own decision). If the order comes with some explanation, even if brief, then I am MUCH MORE likely to take that into consideration, even if I have no idea who made the order or the explanation. (DO NOT PRESS. Shuts off power to shop floor)...
speedbump101 wrote:I'm also taking Ariely's course starting tomorrow, Mar 25th, and no I didn't push the button.
Cheers,
SB...
VictoriaF wrote:
Great! Have you started reading the papers? (I have not, but I had several excuses.)
Victoria
P.S. The other thing we discussed is in works.
speedbump101 wrote:VictoriaF wrote:
Great! Have you started reading the papers? (I have not, but I had several excuses.)
Victoria
P.S. The other thing we discussed is in works.
Of course not, I'm retired, and my motto is 'Why do today what can be done tomorrow.'
This philosophy along with the fact that I haven't done a non work related course in over 40 years
should produce some rather interesting results.
I have read two of the three books covered though.... I think!
SB...
VictoriaF wrote:
I see. So clicking on the Do Not Click button would be an effort exceeding your retirement allocation of clicks? {Eureka smile}
Victoria
speedbump101 wrote:VictoriaF wrote:
I see. So clicking on the Do Not Click button would be an effort exceeding your retirement allocation of clicks? {Eureka smile}
Victoria
Actually if you have read Prof. Ariely or watched his very entertaining TED talks you know this is a lemming trap and probably around 70% or more of us pondering the button will succumb (he's messing with our brains before the course has even started).
What's your percentage prediction?
SB...
LadyGeek wrote:Has anyone taken a look at the browser's source code for that page? In Firefox, right-click, View page source. Perhaps the answer is already there and you may not need to click on the button.
Kobayashi Maru.
VictoriaF wrote:LadyGeek wrote:Take a look at the forum description under the Board index:Questions on how we spend our money and our time - consumer goods and services, home and vehicle, leisure and recreational activities
Hi LadyGeek,
I am asking this question in an open forum rather than sending you a PM, because I am interested in the opinion of Your Honor Moderator as well as the opinions of ordinary mortals. The Boglehead boat is entering some uncharted waters here.
On Monday, 25 March 2013, the Coursera course A Beginner's Guide to Irrational Behavior starts. Behavioral Economics is within the Forum's policy as evidenced by several accepted, informative and uncontroversial threads. (Those unfamiliar with Behavioral Economics should be assured that it is very different from the prohibited Economics.)
I know several people who will be taking this course, and there must be many more I don't know about. Some good information has been exchanged in PMs, but it's not visible and not scalable. It would be quite useful to dedicate a special thread to the course discussions. Such thread, if Your Honor allows it, would have to follow several rules including:
1. Not violating any Bogleheads Forum policies.
2. Not violating Coursera's Honor Code.
3. Discouraging people from making irrelevant remarks such as "I have better things to do than doing Coursera" or "My Coursera course is better than your Coursera course" or ... you get my point.
And so my question are:
To LadyGeek:
- Would you allow such thread?
- If yes, should we hold it in Personal Consumer Issues or you have better ideas?
- Are you going to take this course? {a trick question}
To aspiring Behavioral Economists:
- Are you interested in such a thread?
- If yes, would you agree with the rules I noted above?
- Should we have any other rules?
Victoria
{irrationally hoping that it will work}
Teetlebaum wrote:In any case, wouldn't it make more sense to set up such a group on the Coursera site?
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