Microsoft Operating Systems
Microsoft Operating Systems
For those of you using Microsoft Operating Systems on your computer which of the following are you using
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No option for Windows 2000 or ME?Toons wrote:For those of you using Microsoft Operating Systems on your computer which of the following are you using
7 has an awesome media center, especially for tv tuners. It's just like my old directv "ultimate tv" box. I just wish it kept track of what videos have been watched already.
On my laptop I still use xp and will continue to until I would have less application compatibility problems using 7 than I would with xp.
On my laptop I still use xp and will continue to until I would have less application compatibility problems using 7 than I would with xp.
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my last windows computer came with xp, and i had upgraded my last computer before that to xp, so i have used it for possibly 6 years now? i haven't seen any reason to upgrade so far.. i will probably toss my current desktop and continue my mac buying plans when xp dies, having recently bought a macbook and being amazed by how much friendlier and reliable it is.
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Well yeah, if you compare a 7-year old OS with a brand new OS of course the new OS will compare favorably. But Windows 7 blows snow leopard out of the water, IMO.arthurdawg wrote:my last windows computer came with xp, and i had upgraded my last computer before that to xp, so i have used it for possibly 6 years now? i haven't seen any reason to upgrade so far.. i will probably toss my current desktop and continue my mac buying plans when xp dies, having recently bought a macbook and being amazed by how much friendlier and reliable it is.
I am in a similar situation, currently running Vista and as soon as I have enough saved, going to move to Mac. Vista's garbage performance has finally ended my relationship with Bill Gates.arthurdawg wrote:my last windows computer came with xp, and i had upgraded my last computer before that to xp, so i have used it for possibly 6 years now? i haven't seen any reason to upgrade so far.. i will probably toss my current desktop and continue my mac buying plans when xp dies, having recently bought a macbook and being amazed by how much friendlier and reliable it is.
Microsoft XP here and I love it..! Thank god I dodged the Vista nightmare, wouldn't wish that on anyone from what I’ve seen others experience.
I’ve been advised by my computer expert friends to stay with XP as long as they MS supports it. The dilemma …..I’m about to upgrade to a new machine and not sure which OS to go with. I am very comfortable with XP, does everything I need but, a Microsoft employee relative just graced me with a full compliment of boxed original Win 7 Ultimate OS and the new MS Office Professional 2010. Hummmm…do I make the change or wait and load Win 7 at a later date...?
Thanks for the timely subject..
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I’ve been advised by my computer expert friends to stay with XP as long as they MS supports it. The dilemma …..I’m about to upgrade to a new machine and not sure which OS to go with. I am very comfortable with XP, does everything I need but, a Microsoft employee relative just graced me with a full compliment of boxed original Win 7 Ultimate OS and the new MS Office Professional 2010. Hummmm…do I make the change or wait and load Win 7 at a later date...?
Thanks for the timely subject..
Jack
So far interesting to see XP slight lead over Win7,,for some reason I thought that might be the case,,keep the comments coming , very interesting,,,,I have xp and win7 and find myself using xp more often than win 7
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Windows 7 all the way. Work desktop & personal laptop/desktop runs 7 Pro 64-bit. Upgraded my girlfriend's PC from Vista to 7 and she loves it. Got her parents a new PC with 7 Home Premium 64-bit. It's much easier for them to use than XP.
Telling people to stick with XP is just stupid. Support for SP3 runs out in 2014. 64-bit Windows 7 is rock solid and very fast.
Telling people to stick with XP is just stupid. Support for SP3 runs out in 2014. 64-bit Windows 7 is rock solid and very fast.
I have 2 computers. An older laptop which runs Win XP. My newer laptop and primary machine runs Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium. Win 7 is a solid and easy to use operating system. I highly recommend it.
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Win7 let's you run XP programs after you download their virtualization and XP mode software (available for free.). The only requirement is that you have higher SKUs installed ex. Ulitmate/Professional. The Home editions do not support this.jameson71 wrote: On my laptop I still use xp and will continue to until I would have less application compatibility problems using 7 than I would with xp.
See here for more details. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... ws-xp-mode
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I answered Windows 7, which is technically correct (my office PC runs on that), but I do most of my tasks in Windows Server 2008 via a Software as a Service (SaaS) arrangement. Since I session-in, the actual OS installed on my PC is of little consequence.
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Have both XP and Windows 7.
Microsoft won't support XP after 4/8/14.
To paraphrase Microsoft's website for Windows 7, they have taken all the complaints about Vista to heart when designing 7.
It's a fairly easy transition from XP to 7. All those nagging pop-ups each time a new program starts, can be completely turned off in 7. There is a convenient box in the Start menu for a search or to do a run. Backup includes a system image so a separate purchase of Norton Ghost is unnecessary. Foreign language scripts will appear naturally instead of a stack of numbers. 7 permits an on-going login to this forum while XP requires a fresh login each time. Only problem thus far was the initial difficulty of setting up the wireless internet connection. Microsoft has redeemed itself.
Microsoft won't support XP after 4/8/14.
To paraphrase Microsoft's website for Windows 7, they have taken all the complaints about Vista to heart when designing 7.
It's a fairly easy transition from XP to 7. All those nagging pop-ups each time a new program starts, can be completely turned off in 7. There is a convenient box in the Start menu for a search or to do a run. Backup includes a system image so a separate purchase of Norton Ghost is unnecessary. Foreign language scripts will appear naturally instead of a stack of numbers. 7 permits an on-going login to this forum while XP requires a fresh login each time. Only problem thus far was the initial difficulty of setting up the wireless internet connection. Microsoft has redeemed itself.
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can't reliably compare windows 7, since i haven't used it, although i've heard good reports on it. i've debated updating my desktop dell to win 7, it is only 3.5 years old, and after hard drive and dvd player upgrades should have several more years of life. after it dies i am considering just running a wireless and not having a desktop anymore.KyleAAA wrote:Well yeah, if you compare a 7-year old OS with a brand new OS of course the new OS will compare favorably. But Windows 7 blows snow leopard out of the water, IMO.arthurdawg wrote:my last windows computer came with xp, and i had upgraded my last computer before that to xp, so i have used it for possibly 6 years now? i haven't seen any reason to upgrade so far.. i will probably toss my current desktop and continue my mac buying plans when xp dies, having recently bought a macbook and being amazed by how much friendlier and reliable it is.
still, i've been impressed with the mac so far in terms of the integrated performance between the hardware and software. essentially no glitches with getting it all set up, everything works well, and i've never had this experience with microsoft on dell computers. previously i loved to tinker with things, but time is shorter than ever these days!
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OMG, that's only four year away! I must instantly spend money on a new computer!Nummerkins wrote:Windows 7 all the way. Work desktop & personal laptop/desktop runs 7 Pro 64-bit. Upgraded my girlfriend's PC from Vista to 7 and she loves it. Got her parents a new PC with 7 Home Premium 64-bit. It's much easier for them to use than XP.
Telling people to stick with XP is just stupid. Support for SP3 runs out in 2014. 64-bit Windows 7 is rock solid and very fast.
Seriously, though, when my 2005 XP laptop's second hinge brake breaks, I'll be looking at Windows 7. Can anyone give me a reason why I shouldn't get the 64-bit version?
If you've got a 64-bit CPU, you should definitely use the 64-bit version; the only exception would be if you're wanting to keep old hardware that doesn't have 64-bit drivers available. Not an issue if you're buying a new system with 64-bit Windows 7 pre-installed, but if you're doing an upgrade or incorporating old hardware you should check for the availability of drivers first.Eureka wrote:Seriously, though, when my 2005 XP laptop's second hinge brake breaks, I'll be looking at Windows 7. Can anyone give me a reason why I shouldn't get the 64-bit version?
agree I am typing this on a dell inspiron 1501 laptop running vista home premium. I have to chroncially boot in safe mode as it refuses to boot in normal mode (I get the spinning blue circle of death that spins forever)Indices wrote:I am in a similar situation, currently running Vista and as soon as I have enough saved, going to move to Mac. Vista's garbage performance has finally ended my relationship with Bill Gates.arthurdawg wrote:my last windows computer came with xp, and i had upgraded my last computer before that to xp, so i have used it for possibly 6 years now? i haven't seen any reason to upgrade so far.. i will probably toss my current desktop and continue my mac buying plans when xp dies, having recently bought a macbook and being amazed by how much friendlier and reliable it is.
Just ordered an Ipad and will get a mac laptop soon.
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I voted Windows 7 because that's the newest OS that I'm using on my two laptops which shipped with Vista. I also continue to use XP on my older desktop. I like both 7 and XP. I did not like Vista.
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I use XP and Win7. XP gets the job done and is very comfortable, although I see why Win7 has many fans.
For business style Windows Server 2008...Active Directory systems, I like the way Win7 displays and lets you use network resources. You can easily search across many servers quicky...it starts displaying results before you finish typing.
I like Sticky Notes where you can scribble all over an existing screen and quickly email it. That helps a far-away-user understand your point.
Win7's XP mode where you can use XP software doesn't work all of the time. Getting XP software to work on Win7 takes trial and error. I've found that you can get 75% of the XP software to work. Some of the old software will work...but not exactly like it did before. I plan to download and install Win XP Mode ... http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtua ... nload.aspx. I'm hoping that this virtual XP mode will take care of the old software that I have to keep alive.
I use XP and Win7. XP gets the job done and is very comfortable, although I see why Win7 has many fans.
For business style Windows Server 2008...Active Directory systems, I like the way Win7 displays and lets you use network resources. You can easily search across many servers quicky...it starts displaying results before you finish typing.
I like Sticky Notes where you can scribble all over an existing screen and quickly email it. That helps a far-away-user understand your point.
Win7's XP mode where you can use XP software doesn't work all of the time. Getting XP software to work on Win7 takes trial and error. I've found that you can get 75% of the XP software to work. Some of the old software will work...but not exactly like it did before. I plan to download and install Win XP Mode ... http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtua ... nload.aspx. I'm hoping that this virtual XP mode will take care of the old software that I have to keep alive.
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Workstation: Ubuntu Linux 9.10 64 bit.
Thinkpad X61: Ubuntu linux 9.10 64 bit.
Wife's web browsing machine: Ubuntu linux 9.10 32 bit.
Thinkpad T500 (work): Windows XP Pro 32 bit. I try not to use it as much as possible. I've even gone so far as to carry my Thinkpad X61 in the same bag for weeks at a time and boot them both in the office. It's not so much XP that is the issue, it's the fact that the Windows XP Pro machine has aggressive virus scanning turned on, spy sweeper, encrypted hard disk (not just user partition but the whole drive), etc. Really turns the machine into a dog.
Thinkpad X61: Ubuntu linux 9.10 64 bit.
Wife's web browsing machine: Ubuntu linux 9.10 32 bit.
Thinkpad T500 (work): Windows XP Pro 32 bit. I try not to use it as much as possible. I've even gone so far as to carry my Thinkpad X61 in the same bag for weeks at a time and boot them both in the office. It's not so much XP that is the issue, it's the fact that the Windows XP Pro machine has aggressive virus scanning turned on, spy sweeper, encrypted hard disk (not just user partition but the whole drive), etc. Really turns the machine into a dog.
I think it's a bigger difference that a huge part of Windows 7 installs are 64-bit.
Nearly half of Windows 7 installations are 64-bit
Nearly half of Windows 7 installations are 64-bit
PaulThe transition to 64-bit computing has accelerated with the release of Windows 7. Figures published by Microsoft today claim that nearly half of Windows 7 installations—46 percent—are using 64-bit versions of the operating system. This represents a huge upswing in 64-bit adoption; Windows Vista, in comparison, had only 11 percent of its users running the 64-bit version.
The benefits of 64-bit Windows vary; for some users they will be substantial, for others, nonexistent. The 64-bit versions of the operating system have reliable access to larger amounts of physical memory than their 32-bit counterparts. 64-bit software similarly has easy access to more system resources. These factors can provide a substantial performance boost to heavy workloads like databases, but for other workloads—including common desktop tasks such as word processing or Web browsing—there is little advantage to be had.
64-bit Windows software is potentially more secure than 32-bit software. 64-bit Windows can make systems such as ASLR stronger, as known ASLR-defeating techniques depend on the relatively small amount of memory that 32-bit programs have available.
I'm throwing another shout out to XP. Don't see why anyone would upgrade from it to Win7 unless there is a specific need. As great as Win7 is, it still runs slower that XP.
I'm equating the changeover from 32-bit to 64-bit akin to when Win95 came out and people started switching from 16-bit win3.1 to 32-bit Win95. Initial adoption was painful as new programs had problems or ran slower in the 32-bit environment. Eventually, things settled down as all programs were programmed for 32-bit.
The only reason 64-bit adoption has accelerated with Win7 is because Microsoft gives incentives to PC installers to use 64 over 32.
Future proofing for 64-bit is important to run the snazziest, jazziest program faster with more security. But I also remember lots of headaches getting that legacy print driver or older software that ran on Win3.1 to work in Win95.
My advice? It doesn't matter, 32-bit or 64-bit. Possible headaches now or possible headaches later? I chose not to upgrade at all on my older XP rig and took whatever bit they gave me on my new laptop which happens to be 64.
I'm equating the changeover from 32-bit to 64-bit akin to when Win95 came out and people started switching from 16-bit win3.1 to 32-bit Win95. Initial adoption was painful as new programs had problems or ran slower in the 32-bit environment. Eventually, things settled down as all programs were programmed for 32-bit.
The only reason 64-bit adoption has accelerated with Win7 is because Microsoft gives incentives to PC installers to use 64 over 32.
Future proofing for 64-bit is important to run the snazziest, jazziest program faster with more security. But I also remember lots of headaches getting that legacy print driver or older software that ran on Win3.1 to work in Win95.
My advice? It doesn't matter, 32-bit or 64-bit. Possible headaches now or possible headaches later? I chose not to upgrade at all on my older XP rig and took whatever bit they gave me on my new laptop which happens to be 64.
The "incentive" is selling more ram in the box. Any PC sold with 4+ GB at retail will have 64-bit Windows 7. 64-bit also provides 2x the number of registers which also can speed up software.mmmodem wrote:The only reason 64-bit adoption has accelerated with Win7 is because Microsoft gives incentives to PC installers to use 64 over 32.
If you want to risk any online investing by running XP that's your problem.
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On comparable hardware, yes. But hardware is so incredibly cheap it hardly matters. I got dual quad core processors and 12GB of RAM for around $1000 including a 22" monitor. Win7 runs lightening fast on it. I'd compare it favorably to Linux running KDE or Snow Leopard in terms of speed. In fact, I've pretty much stopped using linux entirely since I got it.mmmodem wrote:I'm throwing another shout out to XP. Don't see why anyone would upgrade from it to Win7 unless there is a specific need. As great as Win7 is, it still runs slower that XP.
But I also remember lots of headaches getting that legacy print driver or older software that ran on Win3.1 to work in Win95.
True that. Just go ahead and buy a new printer. Developers rightfully don't want to support old technology. It's just too much trouble.mmmodem wrote: My advice? It doesn't matter, 32-bit or 64-bit. Possible headaches now or possible headaches later? I chose not to upgrade at all on my older XP rig and took whatever bit they gave me on my new laptop which happens to be 64.
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