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rrosenkoetter wrote:I've always looked at cars as tranportation only... I want reliable, but don't care about anything else...
My first (and only) new car was Hyundai Excel, which I bought with manual drive, no air conditioning (I lived in New Hampshire at the time), basic radio, and no dashboard cloak...
Cost my $7000, which I paid off very quickly...
All my other cars have been used Hondas or Toyotas... usually 2-3 years old with less than 40k miles. I pay cash for them... drive them for years...
It gives me a smug satisfaction to drive my 2003 Honda Civic to work each morning as I see my neighbors with their giant brand-new SUVs.
HOWEVER...
I'm turning 40 this year... my wife and I are doing well... my daughter could use a car for college... Normally I'd drive this Civic another 4 years... but maybe just maybe... I might look at something more fun....
The Wizard wrote:Some of these frugality replies seem to go over the edge, even with a healthy dose of YMMV.
Maybe I'll start a thread focusing on what being frugal in some areas allows one to partake more extravagantly of in other areas.
If foregoing having internet and television at home, among other things, allows me to accumulate a net worth of $10M by age 90 instead of merely $7M, then I'd have to think about it for a while...
FF-Medic wrote:Wiz, I agree. the TV is religion and we are rarely home anyway......As far as just sitting around being frugal, hardly we spend a lot on things that we enjoy, such as Scuba diving which is terribly unfrugal, as well as taking 5-7 trips/yr as we love to travel. We have our own personal libary as we enjoy reading and we just built a new home....As well as owning ATV's, and Boats.
Wonk wrote:I'm curious if many other folks place a market value or ROI on their frugality.
Wonk wrote:I'm curious if many other folks place a market value or ROI on their frugality. For instance, another consultant I know who is very well known in one industry bills at $500/hr and is booked solid. He wouldn't even think about painting his house or even so much as driving to the post office. His thinking is that after tax, he's earning $300/hr so it pays him to earn more and hire a painter at $25/hr. Same with his assistant at $20/hr who runs his errands for him.
I'm inclined to agree. That's why my frugality only goes so far. For instance, I absolutely hate cleaning the house. It may be considered a luxury to hire a cleaning lady for $150/mo, but I'd rather work another hour each month than spend a Saturday cleaning my house. Conversely, I refuse to buy new cars because of the depreciation. I'd rather buy after 2 years and 24k miles to have "like new" at a lower cost. I suppose it's just picking and choosing one's level of happiness.
At what point do you see a diminishing return on your frugality?
Atilla wrote:1. Cheap mortgage on a cheap house.
2. Keep investing expenses low.
3. No interest payments other than the 4.375% fixed mortgage.
4. Don't buy too much useless crap.
5. Krups espresso machine in the kitchen keeps me away from the coffee bar.
6. Wife and I brown bag lunch almost every day. I work from home, so I skip the bag.
7. Sneak booze into the topless pool at Mandalay Bay and just order diet Pepsi all afternoon.
wjwhitney wrote:Wonk wrote:I'm curious if many other folks place a market value or ROI on their frugality.
I get paid by the month, not by the hour. If I did bill for my services at $300/hour, a lot of things would be different!
bearcub wrote:1 When someone has their clothes drying in the laundry mat and leaves Illl throw my clothes in with theirs
2 Use teabags over 3 times
3Never buy shampoo or soap,take it from hotel rooms
4Let barrel get filled with rain water so I can water plants without putting the hose on.
5 Pickup dead deer on highway and make venison stew.
6Take sugar packets from coffeeshoppe
7Let suit air outside instead of bringing it to cleaners
8 Use hand signals when turning in car,so I dont burnout bulblight
new2bogle wrote:wjwhitney wrote:Wonk wrote:I'm curious if many other folks place a market value or ROI on their frugality.
I get paid by the month, not by the hour. If I did bill for my services at $300/hour, a lot of things would be different!
Exactly.
Breaking down the per hour cost of something to compare do it yourself vs. hiring really only makes sense if you can work that extra time and make money. Salaried people can't usually do that.
steadyeddy wrote:As a server, I had a man come into my restaurant the other day and spend twenty minutes trying to talk me into letting his wife and him split an all-you-can-eat ribs entree. He finally agreed to order two entrees, per the rules. He did, however, order only one pepsi which he proceeded to share with his wife. Early in the evening, he asked how late we were open. He said he wanted to be sure to stay for some time, so he could consume a greater quantity of ribs. He ended up electing to sit for over three hours to accomplish this task. During this period of time, he complained repeatedly about having to pay for two entrees. He said there had been a marked decline of civility in the restaurant industry. Apparently he had formerly been a regular diner at Old Country Buffet, but they had offended him by making him empty his wife's purse of the several dozen cookies he had stashed away. He said there were no signs indicating that taking extra cookies was prohibited, and he was astonished that the manager could have been so rude.
He repeated several times that he was a "very frugal man," so I guess would be considered "that frugal thing he does"!
dm200 wrote:On principle (with a secondary frugality motive), I refuse to use bottled water. In the US, 99.99% of municipal water (at considerable expense) is perfectly safe. Bottled water is a scam. [I have to hand it to the marketeers].
In addition, all those plastic bottles clog landfills are an environmental nightmare.
mptfan wrote:wjwhitney wrote:I get paid by the month, not by the hour. If I did bill for my services at $300/hour, a lot of things would be different!
You could bill your services at $300 an hour if you want, it's collecting that would be an issue. :wink:
libraries are one of the best bargains go
bearcub wrote:1 When someone has their clothes drying in the laundry mat and leaves Illl throw my clothes in with theirs
2 Use teabags over 3 times
3Never buy shampoo or soap,take it from hotel rooms
4Let barrel get filled with rain water so I can water plants without putting the hose on.
5 Pickup dead deer on highway and make venison stew.
6Take sugar packets from coffeeshoppe
7Let suit air outside instead of bringing it to cleaners
8 Use hand signals when turning in car,so I dont burnout bulblight
imagardener wrote:Using the library is my most frugal act, provides hours of entertainment and advances my knowledge and it's free.
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