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Do you watch "The Donald" in action on The Apprentice?

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I saw a commercial that The Apprentice is returning this fall.

How many Bogleheads watch "The Donald" in action?
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Maybe you can add an option to the poll "I prefer 'The Apprentice" viewing of another country".

My favorite is Lord Alan Sugar on BBC (UK).
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Where is the box for "we watched it a bit at first, but no longer"? :wink:

As with most TV <junk>, even those that have some interesting and/or novel approach initially... it rapidly deteriorated into forced extra "touches" to [we guess] keep it from getting stale.

That seems to happen a lot even to once-good TV dramas, etc. The story line eventually gets more and more intricate and absurd, because they've run out of other "regular" things to portray.

And there is the general "race to the bottom" to get viewers, in our minds, especially on commercial TV in the US. Haven't watched overseas in quite a few years.

So the bottom line is, no, we haven't watched it in years, and didn't realize it was still on.

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If they brought back Richard Branson's version (Rebel Billionaire), I'd watch that.
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i don't make plans to be at home when it is on, on dvr it, but if i'm home and its on i watch it. it was better before the celebritys got involved.
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Used to watch it. When it was real people it was interesting, but then when the celebrity shows came on, it came down to keeping 'colorful' people on to keep ratings. Trump himself has begun to pontificate too much. http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainmen ... -1.1207536
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A waste of time.
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I don't have a television. If I did, however, this would be the last thing I would watch. Newton Minow must have meant this when he termed television as a "vast wasteland."
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miles monroe wrote:i don't make plans to be at home when it is on, on dvr it, but if i'm home and its on i watch it. it was better before the celebritys got involved.

I agree. I think it was better before celebrities as well. Probably a strategy to increase (or try too) the ratings!
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chaz wrote:A waste of time.
I am sorry to hear it is a waste of time for you. "The Donald" is often in rare form!
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gkaplan wrote:I don't have a television. If I did, however, this would be the last thing I would watch. Newton Minow must have meant this when he termed television as a "vast wasteland."
Are you serious Gordon? You don't have a television? I thought you had mentioned you had a huge widescreen in another thread? Are you watching programs on another device such as smart phones or tablets?
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More interested in his current bidding to become the new owner of the Buffalo Bills.
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chaz wrote:A waste of time.
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joe8d wrote:More interested in his current bidding to become the new owner of the Buffalo Bills.
I watched an interview he just did on Fox where he discussed that. Interesting considering his history with the USFL.
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Oh no! 95% of Bogleheads on this thread do not watch "The Donald's" show!
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How about one where John Bogle fires active managers if they can't beat the market after expenses? :twisted:
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baw703916 wrote:How about one where John Bogle fires active managers if they can't beat the market after expenses? :twisted:
That would be a great reality TV show. Vanguard should consider for their YouTube channel.
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johnubc wrote:Used to watch it. When it was real people it was interesting, but then when the celebrity shows came on, it came down to keeping 'colorful' people on to keep ratings. Trump himself has begun to pontificate too much. http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainmen ... -1.1207536
+1 loved the first couple seasons when it was an "everyman" competing to win, like the fella from Montana that won or came in second. The young hungry sales and real estate guys. Once they went to celebrities, it became fake. I really didn't understand the point, why would a rich celebrity want to be an apprentice? And who wants to watch Gene Simmons vs. Joan Rivers? It killed all the value of the show. Bring back the Bill Rancic type contestant and I would watch again...
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tommy_gunn wrote:
johnubc wrote:Used to watch it. When it was real people it was interesting, but then when the celebrity shows came on, it came down to keeping 'colorful' people on to keep ratings. Trump himself has begun to pontificate too much. http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainmen ... -1.1207536
+1 loved the first couple seasons when it was an "everyman" competing to win, like the fella from Montana that won or came in second. The young hungry sales and real estate guys. Once they went to celebrities, it became fake. I really didn't understand the point, why would a rich celebrity want to be an apprentice? And who wants to watch Gene Simmons vs. Joan Rivers? It killed all the value of the show. Bring back the Bill Rancic type contestant and I would watch again...
+2 it was an interesting competition when it was more of a real "job interview" with real people, many of whom had executive level talent. When they degraded it to a C-list celebrity spectacle feature Omarossa and Piers Morgan catfighting, I quickly lost interest. Trump also dumbed himself down to often keeping/firing people for reasons clearly unrelated to performance and frankly began making numerous unprofessional remarks in the boardroom (any time a model was featured you could expect some loutish comment). But I guess that's what sells to the public.

I shouldn't chastise too much for people enjoying low rent entertainment, I remember many years ago being amused by the Fox spoof of the Apprentice (My Big Fat Obnoxious Boss I think was the title) where they hired a real jerk to be a fake CEO who forced them to be appraised on things like how much hot coffee they sold on a 100 degree day and who won the paintball competition.
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NHRATA01 wrote:Trump also dumbed himself down
I never bothered with the celebrity version, but I watched a few seasons of the regular version and, well, wasn't generally impressed with the level of business acumen Trump typically displayed. Many of his decisions seemed arbitrary and capricious, if not vindictive or outright stupid, which I tended to write off as Trump fulfilling producers' instructions to surprise the audience. I mean, Trump built a business empire; he can't be as lousy a boss as he plays on TV, right?
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FedGuy wrote: I mean, Trump built a business empire; he can't be as lousy a boss as he plays on TV, right?
I've heard different numbers on the amount of money Trump started with, ranging from $80Million to $300Million. He is far from a self-made man, as I'm pretty sure that the 301st million must be easier to make than the first. Richard Branson, now that's a self-made man, and his short-lived show was interesting.

I worked at a bank that in the same year extended loans to Pan Am and Trump. I asked at the time why we wanted to throw money down the toilet, but I was in software development and nobody listened to me. I'm pretty sure that Trump has never paid back 100 cents on the dollar.
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TomatoTomahto wrote: I worked at a bank that in the same year extended loans to Pan Am and Trump. I asked at the time why we wanted to throw money down the toilet, but I was in software development and nobody listened to me. I'm pretty sure that Trump has never paid back 100 cents on the dollar.
Wow! You worked for the bank that loaned money to Trump for his airline business?
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TomatoTomahto wrote: I worked at a bank that in the same year extended loans to Pan Am and Trump. I asked at the time why we wanted to throw money down the toilet, but I was in software development and nobody listened to me. I'm pretty sure that Trump has never paid back 100 cents on the dollar.
Wow! You worked for the bank that loaned money to Trump for his airline business?
No, two separate loans. Reflecting back further, I'm not sure that the two loans were in the same year. It's been a long time, but I think the Trump loan was for a casino. As I said, I was in software, not in loan originations.
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TomatoTomahto wrote:
abuss368 wrote:
TomatoTomahto wrote: I worked at a bank that in the same year extended loans to Pan Am and Trump. I asked at the time why we wanted to throw money down the toilet, but I was in software development and nobody listened to me. I'm pretty sure that Trump has never paid back 100 cents on the dollar.
Wow! You worked for the bank that loaned money to Trump for his airline business?
No, two separate loans. Reflecting back further, I'm not sure that the two loans were in the same year. It's been a long time, but I think the Trump loan was for a casino. As I said, I was in software, not in loan originations.
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I started watching it but eventually grew irritated with the way the show was set up. One, I get tired of all the fawning over "The Donald" and the Trump Organization. Sure, it's a fine company but there are literally hundreds or thousands of other better companies to work for. It's just a company, people.

I also don't like the idea that someone has to be fired and all the backstabbing that is therefore involved. My experience in corporate America is that this is a toxic environment where nothing gets done. In the "real world" it's all about building relationships and teams in my opinion. Lead with relationship power, not position power. This show is totally counter to that and I honestly hate that.
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I wonder if "The Donald" will ever turn The Trump Organization into a REIT.
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abuss368 wrote:I wonder if "The Donald" will ever turn The Trump Organization into a REIT.
I kind of hope not, because VNQ would have to buy it, and it's inclusion might lower the performance.
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