POLL: what's the deal with Tuna Fish?
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POLL: what's the deal with Tuna Fish?
In the past, I preferred buying tuna in a can with oil. I always just figured it was fish oil and full of good stuff -- didn't even check. But then someone told me that the oil isn't even fish-based, it's just a vegetable oil! They said tuna packed in water is healthier. So I switched.
Were they right? For you tuna-lovers out there, how do you buy it? Think it makes a difference?
Now, after opening the can, I hold it under cold running water and press the metal lid down into the tuna a few times to squeeze out whatever liquid is in there and replace it with the fresh running water. I suspect I'm probably doing this wrong, too. Need advice! I'm eating a tuna fish sandwich right now and can't even finish it; I'm so distraught.
Were they right? For you tuna-lovers out there, how do you buy it? Think it makes a difference?
Now, after opening the can, I hold it under cold running water and press the metal lid down into the tuna a few times to squeeze out whatever liquid is in there and replace it with the fresh running water. I suspect I'm probably doing this wrong, too. Need advice! I'm eating a tuna fish sandwich right now and can't even finish it; I'm so distraught.
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Sushi fresh, sandwiches water. You won't let me vote twice, so I won't vote at all.
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My preference is for Starkist solid white in water vs. chunk light. It costs more but it is very good.
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Olive oil. I open the can, press out the oil with the lid (but not too hard, I still like a little oil mixed in with the tuna), put it in a bowl with some feta cheese and cherry tomatoes, drizzle with balsamic vinegar, and enjoy! Great flavor. Try it and you'll never want to eat Starkist or Chicken of the Sea again.
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Oh, sscritic, now... votecritic.sscritic wrote:Sushi fresh, sandwiches water. You won't let me vote twice, so I won't vote at all.
Good point -- I guess I wasn't considering multiple votes. I don't like this forum's voting mechanism when you open it up to more than 1 vote because it screws up the result %s on the right giving a false idea of which one is really the most popular. For example, in the thread on what Bogleheads drink, it shows "Water" as winning with 21%, but clearly more than just 1-in-5 people would have selected "Water" as one of their [likely multiple] choices.
Or maybe I just don't understand how to correctly read the results, in which case I should edit the poll to allow multiple votes.
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If you want to try some really good tuna, buy some Kirkland Signature brand at Costco. It is a high quality tuna, packed in water without any vegetable broth or other additives. It is also a full 7 ounce can, like it used to be everywhere. It is expensive and you have to buy an 8 pack, but it is much better than the national brands. Actually, Costco sells the national brands cheaper than this private label product.
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Agree on the Kirkland brand. That's all we use.
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My vote
Starkist, chunk light, in water, plus at Subway my only sandwich is the 12-inch tuna in wheat bread.
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Starkist, chunk light, in water, plus at Subway my only sandwich is the 12-inch tuna in wheat bread.
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My vote:
and sake.Toro (とろ): fatty Bluefin tuna belly
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I prefer canned salmon or sardines over tuna. At bit more fat (and way more Omega 3s) and tastier. I get the salmon with bones (tons of calcium) and skin...crunch, crunch.
You're right about the crap oil they usually use. Look for olive oil or just packed in water and add your own oil later.
You're right about the crap oil they usually use. Look for olive oil or just packed in water and add your own oil later.
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Costco's Kirkland tuna is probably some of the best and in fact made by bumble bee but better quality tuna
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag ... 01/350564/ (old article)
If you live in the south and have access to an HEB supermarket, they sell "Central Market" solid white tuna for about $1.75 a can. This is by far the best tuna. Look at the ingredients: Tuna, water
There are no preservatives or additives like the other brands including Kirkland which adds salt and phosphate.
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag ... 01/350564/ (old article)
If you live in the south and have access to an HEB supermarket, they sell "Central Market" solid white tuna for about $1.75 a can. This is by far the best tuna. Look at the ingredients: Tuna, water
There are no preservatives or additives like the other brands including Kirkland which adds salt and phosphate.
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That's right! I forgot to ask about "solid white" versus "chunk light". I always felt this was akin to the difference between white chicken versus the dark meat -- the latter being less popular but supposedly healthier. But that's just a guess.cfs wrote:Starkist, chunk light, in water.
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I avoid fish.
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I like the mercury-free tuna.
Unfortunately, it doesn't exist.
Unfortunately, it doesn't exist.
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While in the Peace Corps in the central Pacific many,many years ago, my island father caught a yellow fin tuna. He brought over a pound. I was very surprised to discover that tuna was two colors: a dark purple/brown and a beautiful red. No white at all. What is this, I thought. He gave me three old brown coconuts and told me to scrape out the insides. This was usually given to the pigs and chickens. He put the coconut flakes in some cheesecloth (where he got it was beyond me) and squeezed out the syrup. A boy came over with a lemon. I cut up the tuna into bight sized pieces. My father mixed the fish, the coconut syrup and the lemon together. Hmmm. Uncooked tuna is red. The whole family came over to watch the white demon eat raw fish. Ohhhh...I can still taste it. It was so delicious. It was the most delicious meal I have ever had. Everybody was smiling. It was one of my first lessons that those beautiful islanders were going to give me. I gave so little in two years.
I still like boiled tuna in water mixed with mayo. However, sushi or sashimi is my favorite now.
I still like boiled tuna in water mixed with mayo. However, sushi or sashimi is my favorite now.
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The joke about water or oil is, that while I buy water, I only buy canned tuna fish as a vehicle for Best Foods Real Mayonnaise (Hellmann's to folks back East). I buy water so the oil doesn't interfere with the mayonnaise taste.
P.S. I will make hollandaise from scratch for my asparagus or Eggs Benedict, but not mayonnaise.
P.S. I will make hollandaise from scratch for my asparagus or Eggs Benedict, but not mayonnaise.
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Two problems once you shift to water packed tuna. (The oil packed is horrible, vegetable oil.) The sodium level is very high. There is a low sodium brand but only 1/2. Second, tuna are at the top of the food chain. Mercury is a problem. I'd avoid it altogether.
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Can't answer poll since it switches mid stream from what one DOES to what one PREFERS.
I PREFER it fresh but usually BUY it by the can, water packed.
I PREFER it fresh but usually BUY it by the can, water packed.
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FWIW, Tuna is the second most consumed seafood in America. Second only to shrimp.
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Agreed, and here is the best tuna salad recipe I've ever eaten:Old Guy wrote:Agree on the Kirkland brand. That's all we use.
http://www.food.com/recipe/best-tuna-salad-ever-236593
The water chestnuts, scallions, and celery add a lot of crunch and the dill is great.
Albacore tuna is higher in mercury, however, so we eat in moderation.
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In Hawaii they call tuna ahi. And they make a spicy raw dish called POKE (po-kay) out of it. I liked it...
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They call yellowfin (and bigeye) tuna ahi. They call skipjack tuna aku. I much much prefer the yellowfin.The Wizard wrote:In Hawaii they call tuna ahi. And they make a spicy raw dish called POKE (po-kay) out of it. I liked it...
And, I order my mercury on the side.
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There is albacore tuna and then there is just tuna. They are not the same...just open two cans side by side and you will SEE the difference. and yes in water. Also if you are concerned about sodium then look for low sodium or ultra low sodium. Generally in water you will find 180 mg sodium while low sodium will be between 65-100. Just depends if sodium consumption is important to you.
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I think it is probably worth mentioning that as a top predator, most or all species of tuna fish are now endangered by overfishing, globally. Losing a top predator in a food chain has particularly diabolical consequences-- in particular such predators tend to be slow in reproducing, so recovery of stocks becomes difficult or impossible once a point of no return is crossed.
I spent much of my childhood eating tuna fish sandwiches and carried this over into adulthood. Still do from time to time. But I regret my past consumption.
I spent much of my childhood eating tuna fish sandwiches and carried this over into adulthood. Still do from time to time. But I regret my past consumption.
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Trader Joe's has low sodium. It's a low cal lunch with a splash of rice vinegar and a dark vinegar. No crackers or mayo if you're trying to get to race weight.
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I hate tuna fish and selected the option that I don't eat tuna fish.
Although quite a few people selected that option, I believe that the poll results will reflect some sort of "disgusting food clickthrough bias," which is similar to survivorship bias. People who dislike tuna fish may not click on the poll because they are uninterested and may be underrepresented in the poll results.
Although quite a few people selected that option, I believe that the poll results will reflect some sort of "disgusting food clickthrough bias," which is similar to survivorship bias. People who dislike tuna fish may not click on the poll because they are uninterested and may be underrepresented in the poll results.
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Another vote for Kirkland, by far my favorite tuna.
I was exposed to a lot of mercury having my temperature taken as a kid, so I don't worry about a bit of tuna-based mercury now.
But the real question: Why do we call it "Tuna-fish"? Isn't that redundant?
I was exposed to a lot of mercury having my temperature taken as a kid, so I don't worry about a bit of tuna-based mercury now.
But the real question: Why do we call it "Tuna-fish"? Isn't that redundant?
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"The term tuna derives from Thunnus, the Middle Latin form of the Ancient Greek: θύννος (thýnnos) “tunny-fish” – which is in turn derived from θύνω (thynō), "to rush; to dart".[4]"obgraham wrote:Another vote for Kirkland, by far my favorite tuna.
I was exposed to a lot of mercury having my temperature taken as a kid, so I don't worry about a bit of tuna-based mercury now.
But the real question: Why do we call it "Tuna-fish"? Isn't that redundant?
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuna
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Just looked in my kitchen cabinet and found sardine fish, packed in olive oil
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If you look at the cans pictured here and elsewhere, none of them say tuna fish. They all say tuna. The canners know what is inside, even if we don't.
https://www.google.com/search?q=tuna+fi ... n&tbm=isch
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We used to eat only tuna packed in water, generally Kirkland , Chicken of the Sea, or Star Kist. On the recommendation of Cook's Illustrated magazine we shifted over to Wild Planet (available at Costco). It's 100% tuna with a little salt. No water or oil at all. Try it, you'll like it.
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It depends
1. Light tuna in OIL (lowest price) for our cats.
2. White tuna in WATER (Bumblebee) for our sandwiches.
3. Sushi grade (Whole Foods - $35/lb) for appetizers.
2. White tuna in WATER (Bumblebee) for our sandwiches.
3. Sushi grade (Whole Foods - $35/lb) for appetizers.
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"Olive oil." Maybe.stan1 wrote:Olive oil. I open the can, press out the oil with the lid (but not too hard, I still like a little oil mixed in with the tuna), put it in a bowl with some feta cheese and cherry tomatoes, drizzle with balsamic vinegar, and enjoy! Great flavor. Try it and you'll never want to eat Starkist or Chicken of the Sea again.
Given what is known of the extent of olive oil fraud (http://www.amazon.com/Extra-Virginity-S ... 0393343618; http://www.forbes.com/sites/cathyhuyghe ... -antidote/, it's not unreasonable to wonder - if a significant portion of the extra virgin olive oil sold has been adulterated with lower quality olive oil or even other vegetable oils, how likely is it that tuna canners might cut a few corners on the quality of the olive oil they use (since it is not even the main product in the can)?
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Yes, are probably right. Not extra virgin. Be that as it may the tuna tastes much better than water-packed Chicken of the Sea or Starkist (which I find to be inedible out of the can).black jack wrote:"Olive oil." Maybe.stan1 wrote:Olive oil. I open the can, press out the oil with the lid (but not too hard, I still like a little oil mixed in with the tuna), put it in a bowl with some feta cheese and cherry tomatoes, drizzle with balsamic vinegar, and enjoy! Great flavor. Try it and you'll never want to eat Starkist or Chicken of the Sea again.
Given what is known of the extent of olive oil fraud (http://www.amazon.com/Extra-Virginity-S ... 0393343618; http://www.forbes.com/sites/cathyhuyghe ... -antidote/, it's not unreasonable to wonder - if a significant portion of the extra virgin olive oil sold has been adulterated with lower quality olive oil or even other vegetable oils, how likely is it that tuna canners might cut a few corners on the quality of the olive oil they use (since it is not even the main product in the can)?
Just sayin'...
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+1fishnskiguy wrote:We used to eat only tuna packed in water, generally Kirkland , Chicken of the Sea, or Star Kist. On the recommendation of Cook's Illustrated magazine we shifted over to Wild Planet (available at Costco). It's 100% tuna with a little salt. No water or oil at all. Try it, you'll like it.
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When I used to eat it, it was with Mac 'n Cheese.
Oh, the tuna was in water.
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Oh, the tuna was in water.
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Tuna casserole: canned tuna, can of condensed mushroom soup, cooked egg noodles or macaroni, cheese, and the most important ingredient, potato chips crumbled over the top. My mom never added the peas. She was a pretty terrible cook, so it was tuna casserole or nothing. I chose the tuna casserole.
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Genova tuna fish in olive oil.
Prepare two batches your favorite way. For one, use a can of water-packed and for the other, olive oil-packed. Taste test.
In a tuna sandwich preparation with mayo and seasonings, don't drain the oil -- use it and use less mayo.
Tuna salad on an english muffin makes for a great breakfast.
Prepare two batches your favorite way. For one, use a can of water-packed and for the other, olive oil-packed. Taste test.
In a tuna sandwich preparation with mayo and seasonings, don't drain the oil -- use it and use less mayo.
Tuna salad on an english muffin makes for a great breakfast.
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Olive oil. I believe the tuna cans are usually imported from Italy or the middle east. I've had pretty good French canned tuna also. I've given up on American brands. I eat it mixed with a little minced onions and celery on a fresh baguette.
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"You can tune a piano but you can't tuna fish" (REO Speedwagon circa 1978).
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No vote option for my preference:
I prefer raw, fresh Yellow Fin, thinly sliced, but on sandwiches will make due with either oil or water CHUNK/SOLID tuna, not flaked.
Buying tuna in oil almost eliminates the need for mayonnaise, but buying cans in water water is good too because I like mayonnaise.
I prefer raw, fresh Yellow Fin, thinly sliced, but on sandwiches will make due with either oil or water CHUNK/SOLID tuna, not flaked.
Buying tuna in oil almost eliminates the need for mayonnaise, but buying cans in water water is good too because I like mayonnaise.
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Re: POLL: what's the deal with Tuna Fish?
I like fresh tuna and canned tuna. Since canned tuna in water became available I've never eaten canned tuna in oil. A huge problem for me is that I do NOT like tuna in which the ingredients list shows anything but tuna, salt, and water; five to ten years ago "they" started to add vegetable broth and/or sodium pyrophosphate. It's not that I think they're unhealthy, I just think they degrade the taste. And is so often the case, I tried to "vote with my dollars" with total lack of success. Within an amazingly short period of time, virtually every brand in the ordinary supermarkets added these ingredients. I do not want to say "conspiracy," I do not want to say "collusion," I am not going to say it's impossible to find tuna fish without it, I am just going to say that the cost in both money and time increased sharply. I NEVER see cheap tuna without these ingredients. In local supermarkets, the only tuna free from them is billed as "low sodium," and a) costs 3 times as much as the others, and b) isn't stocked very consistently.
The Whole Foods canned tuna, their low-end house brand--360?--is OK. Only costs like 1-1/2 times as much as the stuff in supermarkets. I can't remember what Trader Joe has, I think they have a not-too-expensive water-only variety, but we don't have any in a convenient location.
What I can't figure out is, why? why? why? The incredible number of SKU's in an ordinary supermarket gives you the seeming illusion of choice--and the constant hunter-gather anxiety, since no supermarket can actually keep that number of items consistently in stock--and yet the phenomenon of four dozen different kinds of something all undergoing the same undesired change, all at once, after decades of stability, keep happening. (Yogurt containers were always 8 ounces--1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s. Then one went to 6 ounces, so I switched brands, so my new brand went to 6 ounces, so I switched again... and within about a year they had all done it. I believe most them are down to 5-something nowadays...)
I do NOT believe that an entire nation simultaneously developed a craving for vegetable broth, or that most people think tuna in vegetable broth tastes better, or that 8 ounces is too much yogurt to eat at one sitting...
The Whole Foods canned tuna, their low-end house brand--360?--is OK. Only costs like 1-1/2 times as much as the stuff in supermarkets. I can't remember what Trader Joe has, I think they have a not-too-expensive water-only variety, but we don't have any in a convenient location.
What I can't figure out is, why? why? why? The incredible number of SKU's in an ordinary supermarket gives you the seeming illusion of choice--and the constant hunter-gather anxiety, since no supermarket can actually keep that number of items consistently in stock--and yet the phenomenon of four dozen different kinds of something all undergoing the same undesired change, all at once, after decades of stability, keep happening. (Yogurt containers were always 8 ounces--1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s. Then one went to 6 ounces, so I switched brands, so my new brand went to 6 ounces, so I switched again... and within about a year they had all done it. I believe most them are down to 5-something nowadays...)
I do NOT believe that an entire nation simultaneously developed a craving for vegetable broth, or that most people think tuna in vegetable broth tastes better, or that 8 ounces is too much yogurt to eat at one sitting...
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They are doing this so that we won't notice that the product has become much more expensive. See Ice cream (now 48 instead of 64 oz). Just the other day, I noticed that they had reduced the cottage cheese to 30 oz....thought I wouldn't notice? How stupid do they think we are?....wait, don't answer that.nisiprius wrote:(Yogurt containers were always 8 ounces--1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s. Then one went to 6 ounces, so I switched brands, so my new brand went to 6 ounces, so I switched again... and within about a year they had all done it. I believe most them are down to 5-something nowadays...)
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Tuna fat is solid, sort of like fat on a steak. I generally prefer raw tuna, especially the fatty belly. However, I can't afford to eat it all the time. If I do eat tuna from a can, my preference is to get the tuna packed in olive oil. Usually the exact brand another poster displayed. Water may be better for you, but I am not so fond of water logged fish. Eating a lot of tuna is not good for you any way due to mercury. My preference is to eat canned sardines, or canned clams, or canned octopus. All are lower on the food chain.
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Tuna in water has a horrible metallic taste to me. Since
it is so much easier to pack tuna in water there had to be
a reason manufacturers provide the alternative of packed
in vegetable oil and that reason would be to improve the
taste.
I must add I am talking about eating the tuna with nothing
added (pickles, mayonnaise, onions). If a lot of other ingredients
are added the water/vegetable oil choice would not matter.
I do squeeze out the excess vegetable oil before consuming.
it is so much easier to pack tuna in water there had to be
a reason manufacturers provide the alternative of packed
in vegetable oil and that reason would be to improve the
taste.
I must add I am talking about eating the tuna with nothing
added (pickles, mayonnaise, onions). If a lot of other ingredients
are added the water/vegetable oil choice would not matter.
I do squeeze out the excess vegetable oil before consuming.
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You're a "market timer" if you don't try Wild Planet Tuna
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Old Guy wrote:Agree on the Kirkland brand. That's all we use.
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Re: POLL: what's the deal with Tuna Fish?
The poll is missing an option. I voted I Only Eat it Fresh even should it should be I Only Eat it Raw because I only eat tuna as sushi.
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I get the lower priced Costco tuna (water packed) in 7 ounce cans. I think there are a dozen cans in a pack.