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is it worth $30 to upgrade from 10/100 -> 10/100/100 ethern?

Postby kwan2 » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:28 pm

is it worth $30 to upgrade from 10/100 -> 10/100/100 ethernet?

i would have to buy i guess a pci-e card and ? new cabling, i am a heavy internet at home user, not gaming at all.

i just bought a 10/100/100 cisco e3200 router that has 10/100/1000 but my onboard ethernet is 10/100 only


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Re: is it worth $30 to upgrade from 10/100 -> 10/100/100 eth

Postby DSInvestor » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:40 pm

kwan2 wrote: i am a heavy internet at home user, not gaming at all.


Gigabit ethernet would help you if you had other gigabit devices on your network and you're doing transfers between them. I don't think you'd see much difference for internet traffic.

If you get a new computer down the line, it will have gigabit ethernet capability. If you find that your computer is slow, you may want to look into RAM upgrade or SSD. Depending on how much RAM you have on your PC, you may get a much bigger bang for the buck if you use the $30 to upgrade RAM.
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Re: is it worth $30 to upgrade from 10/100 -> 10/100/100 eth

Postby JoMoney » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:51 pm

If you have multiple computers at home and you frequently copy huge files (like movies) between them, it may be worthwhile to upgrade your network to gigabit "1000".
If you're primarily just using the Internet, it's doubtful you will see any advantage upgrading your home network speeds. The bottleneck is your Internet Service Provider. Do you know what sort of bandwidth you get on your home Internet?
If you have some super high-end Internet (like fiber optics to your house) then there may be some advantage, but even then most of the web sites you visit won't allow you to take advantage of the bandwidth.
So... my generic reaction (without knowing a bunch of technical details) is "No" It's doubtful you'll see any advantage at this point in time.
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Re: is it worth $30 to upgrade from 10/100 -> 10/100/100 eth

Postby Mudpuppy » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:55 pm

As JoMoney said, it depends on what you're doing with the network.

If you're just using it to access the Internet through your ISP, then it would only be worth it if your Internet plan is >100 Mbps. This is unlikely for most USA plans.

If you have a home file server that caches media files (e.g. music, videos, etc.) or other large sized files (ISOs chew up a lot of bandwidth for us geeks) for use in your house, then it's probably worth it.
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Re: is it worth $30 to upgrade from 10/100 -> 10/100/100 eth

Postby Epsilon Delta » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:19 pm

A lot depends on what you're doing on the Internet. If you're browsing bogleheads going from 2Mbs to 1000Mbs means that your pages will load in .5ms instead of 100ms, and the link will be idle 99.999999% of the time instead of 99.9998% of the time. Probably not worth paying for. Even streaming HD movies going from 100Mb/sto 1000Mb/s is not likely to be noticeable. On the other hand encoding on the web gets worse every year and someday you'll need gigabit Ethernet to down load a simple text message, which will be encoded as a 100g image file.
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Re: is it worth $30 to upgrade from 10/100 -> 10/100/100 eth

Postby kwan2 » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:08 pm

ok rodger thanks
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Re: is it worth $30 to upgrade from 10/100 -> 10/100/100 eth

Postby Ged » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:45 pm

Some home internet access services are now exceeding 100 mbps. My cable service went to 120 mbps recently. So if you are purchasing new equipment such as routers, switches and so on you want to get gear that has gigabit ports.
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Re: is it worth $30 to upgrade from 10/100 -> 10/100/100 eth

Postby kwan2 » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:49 pm

and how do i know, if my cable was > 100mbps?
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Re: is it worth $30 to upgrade from 10/100 -> 10/100/100 eth

Postby LAlearning » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:58 pm

It should say what service you are paying for.....
You can always call and ask what your features are, and what upgrades are available.
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Re: is it worth $30 to upgrade from 10/100 -> 10/100/100 eth

Postby Mudpuppy » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:15 pm

kwan2 wrote:and how do i know, if my cable was > 100mbps?

You should be able to go to your cable company's website and look up the plan name from your monthly bill to see the advertised data rate. However, my experience is the >100 Mbps plans are rare (major metropolitan areas) and expensive (over $100 a month with some cable companies). So you would normally know if you had a >100 Mbps plan because you'd be paying so much for that privilege.

If you're just on a standard cable modem plan, you are probably somewhere from 7 Mbps to 15 Mbps, depending on which cable company you use and where you are located.

You can also test your actual data rate (which can be different than your advertised rate) by going to one of many speedtest websites:

http://www.speedtest.net/
http://www.dslreports.com/stest
http://www.broadband.gov/qualitytest/ (you don't have to put an address if you don't want to, just put in X for your address and it works)
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Re: is it worth $30 to upgrade from 10/100 -> 10/100/100 eth

Postby DSInvestor » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:24 pm

Our cable provider here is Cox. Their highest plan offered is 50mbps for $100/month.

Shaw Cable in Western Canada has faster options 100mbps ($95/month) and 250mbps ($115/month). Most folks go with the regular plans that offer 10-20mpbs for about $50/month.

FWIW, we have 15mbps service with lots of devices, desktops, laptops, ipads, iPhones, Apple TVs, xbox 360, ps3 and it works great. We stream netflix movies.
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Re: is it worth $30 to upgrade from 10/100 -> 10/100/100 eth

Postby Ged » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:39 pm

Mudpuppy wrote:
However, my experience is the >100 Mbps plans are rare (major metropolitan areas) and expensive (over $100 a month with some cable companies). So you would normally know if you had a >100 Mbps plan because you'd be paying so much for that privilege.


I'm paying $40/mo for 120 Mbps on a customer retention promo. It is a pretty new thing though, and most cable users don't have service like this. Lots of people on this service got surprised by it and are running out for new routers to support it.

So to go back to my recommendation, if you are buying a new router, get one with a gigabit port and spec'ced for 200 Mbps throughput.
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Re: is it worth $30 to upgrade from 10/100 -> 10/100/100 eth

Postby thebogledude » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:41 pm

kwan2 wrote:is it worth $30 to upgrade from 10/100 -> 10/100/100 ethernet?


I don't think it's worth it. Assuming you're working with video or hd pictures or you're moving large files (videos are the only thing I can think of)
100 mbp/s is still pretty fast. Even if you get the 120mbps plan that others here have mentioned, you won't utilize the 1000mbps bandwidth, so why upgrade?
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