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Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby Gort » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:50 pm

Friends,
I'm in the process of having a new house built. For those of you who have experience with central vacuums, do you find that was money well spent for the appliance?
Thanks,
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby pdc3610 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:19 pm

My wife and I have lived in a house without and now one with central vacuum. We did not build either so it wasn't a decision we made based on cost of the "add-on." We do like the central vacuum and are glad we have it.

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Postby Rlc250 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:24 pm

We have built 3 houses and had central vac in all three. So much more convenient and lighter to move around. We would not be without it.
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby wingnutty » Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:25 pm

We moved into a house that has central vac. We don't really care for it and don't really use it at all. I would never spend money to put it in. We have a dyson and it is just easier to move that from room to room than it is the central vac hose. With the quality of today's vacuums, I just don't see the need for central vac. I mean, you still have to haul around vac hose, so I fail to see how there is a reduction in time and hassle, plus, I think it is actually more of a pain to lug the vacuum hose around than it is to roll the dyson around.
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby Padlin » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:29 am

My wife has a house cleaning business and they will not use folks central vacs although they are usually offered. I know she's tried them with unsatisfactory results, but I don't know why.
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby stan1 » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:16 am

No, after some period of time they break/wear out and parts can't be replaced.
We've found it easier to have an upright and canister in the house (one downstairs, one upstairs).
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Postby frugaltype » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:03 am

I had one in a previous residence. Worth its weight in gold. Sure beats dragging a vacuum around, up and down stairs, around furniture. Much easier to store the hose than a vacuum.

Although I was young when I had this, it also occurs to me that it would be easier for older people than a regular vacuum.
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby SnapShots » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:46 am

wingnutty wrote:We moved into a house that has central vac. We don't really care for it and don't really use it at all. I would never spend money to put it in. We have a dyson and it is just easier to move that from room to room than it is the central vac hose. With the quality of today's vacuums, I just don't see the need for central vac. I mean, you still have to haul around vac hose, so I fail to see how there is a reduction in time and hassle, plus, I think it is actually more of a pain to lug the vacuum hose around than it is to roll the dyson around.


+1 We've had a central vac for 22 years. It still works but I quit using it about 5 years ago or longer. The hose and attachments take up a lot of room to store. The suction isn't as good as a regular sweeper. When dragging the hose around wall-corners it gets the wall dirty, because the cloth-hose-cover drags along your floors and gets dirty. It is a huge!!!!! hassle to remove it, wash it and put it back on.

They work well on tile and wood floors, not so good for carpet, because they don't have the suction power of a regular sweeper. I have a lot of tile but I wouldn't put another one in.
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby BrandonBogle » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:24 am

I use an upright Hoover Pet Car model for most if my vacuuming. It has a handy dandy rubber brush so hairs can be scraped off instead of getting caught in vinyl fibers. It also has a mini roller attachment that basically gives me a smaller, lighter version of the rubber rollers at the end of the hose. I use both of these to vacuum my carpeted stairs with my central vacuum. Absolutely love it. Because of the pets, I had to wear earplugs and sit down by the vacuum motor and play a balancing game with it on the stairs. That was annoying after two weeks and the past two years, I've used the central vac for the stairs. I also use he central vacuum in the garage to clean the cars. That said, everywhere else in the house, I use the upright.
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby gerrym51 » Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:22 pm

i've had central vac for 23 years. like it but-you have to remember to clean out the canister. it works best the emptier the canister is. we always forget and then find the canister to be overloaded when it dawns on us the vacuum does not seem to be working well. :oops:
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby lindisfarne » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:44 pm

My current house has a central vacuum. I certainly wouldn't pay to have one installed but it has pretty good suction - it's 13 years old & I don't think you'd get as good suction out of most 13 year old vacuums (perhaps you would from a Kirby). It has a 50 foot hose which takes up as much space as a vacuum. For an older person for whom a vacuum is too heavy, the hose might be lighter, but it also is a tripping hazard. For whatever reason, my central vac won't turn on until the part you shove into the wall is in as tight as possible, & I don't think an older person could exert enough force to do this. As long as it continues to work, I'll use it but if it dies, I'm not sure I'd fix it. It depends on how long it is before it dies (the longer it is, the more likely I'd fix it) & how much fixing it would cost. Mine is a Bemis (? - not sure on spelling).
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby BolderBoy » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:47 pm

House I bought had one in it. I asked a contractor what he thought of them. "They are something that someone with too much money installs."

I removed it and never looked back. My housekeeper brings her own equipment and supplies.
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby czeckers » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:51 pm

The central vac hose is far more cumbersome than a vacuum with wheels. We have two vacuums -- one for each floor so we don't have to lug it up and down the stairs. Still way cheaper than a central vac.

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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby asc8u » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:02 pm

I think they're great. We put one in our house that we built a few years ago.

Get a kick plate for the kitchen so you can just sweep everything on the floor away. Also if you have a large house, it helps to get an extra hose so you don't have to lug it around.

I think they're helpful for having less dust. I also like how you don't get as hot when you vacuum because the central vacuum is in the garage instead of blowing hot air next to you. Lastly, the vacuum trap is large and bagless - I only have to empty it out once every 4-6 months.

But one downside (at least with our model) is that I don't think it actually vacuums carpets as well as a top brand upright vacuum cleaner. It does a good job but not great.
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby gerrym51 » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:08 pm

the best reason to put in a central vac system. it's cheap to put in a new house and it helps in re-sale of the house.
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby EagertoLearnMore » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:24 pm

Yes, if you get the right one. I have one now, but have had several brands in different homes. The important things I consider.

1. Get one with a disposable bag. It is cleaner, easier to empty, and protects the motor.
2. Do NOT get a contractor's special. It was inferior to a brand name and did not work as well.
3. You can get a power brush in two different methodologies. If electricity is supplied to the hose, a power brush with be activated by plugging it into the wall outlet. If no electricity, you can use an air-powered model.
4. To prevent marring the walls, especially around corners, buy a "hose sock" which fits over the hose and protects walls and furniture from abrasion.
5. New wans are expandable with the push of a button to reach the ceiling and under deep spaces. I really like this feature on my latest model.
6. If you put a hose outlet in the garage purchase a special hose so not to get the house hose dirty. Same thing applies to the basement.
7. You can hang the hose on a small plastic garden hose reel in a closet.
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby central nj » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:30 pm

Also, with a central vac, 100% of vacuumed air including all smells and dust is exhausted outside, no special filter needed, and no way for the air to recirculate.
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby BrandonBogle » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:15 pm

For me, as I alluded to earlier, was because working on the stairs required me to get down to the floor with the upright motor right next to my ears and juggling an upright that is twice the size of a single step. My ears no longer ring from vacuuming and I no longer have the upright falling down the stairs. Definitely worth it for me.

Beyond the stairs and the occasional use for the cars in the garage, it's all upright for me.
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby Default User BR » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:26 pm

central nj wrote:Also, with a central vac, 100% of vacuumed air including all smells and dust is exhausted outside, no special filter needed, and no way for the air to recirculate.

When we had one when I was a kid, the unit was in the basement.


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Postby coacher » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:53 pm

If you have a dog that sheds a lot (or plan to get one), it's incredibly useful to have and very convenient (empty cannister once every couple of weeks). Otherwise it's probably a push.
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby Gnirk » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:47 am

From personal experience, I think it's great for a two-story home, but if we had a one-story home,I probably wouldn't spend the extra money.
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby obgraham » Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:38 am

For me, it's a prime example of an overengineered solution to a pretty simple task.

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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby kramer » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:42 am

Interesting. I had never even heard of such a thing before reading this thread.
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Postby ddunca1944 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:55 am

We had one installed when we built 6 years ago. I like it (we have two dogs). DH is less enamoured with it. YMMV. I do expect that it would help with resale value.
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Postby frugaltype » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:17 am

BolderBoy wrote:House I bought had one in it. I asked a contractor what he thought of them. "They are something that someone with too much money installs."

I removed it and never looked back. My housekeeper brings her own equipment and supplies.


Your housekeeper should be the one replying :-)
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby sesq » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:23 am

We had one in the last house. It was nothing special. My mother has one with a kick-plate in the kitchen in her house. That is pretty handy, but not sure how much I'd pay for it.
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Postby AdamFist » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:35 am

There are houses in our new construction neighborhood that have built in central vacuums. I considered the convenience but instead felt that the money was better spent upgrading other areas (e.g. foam insulation, etc.).
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Postby Munir » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:02 am

Gort wrote:Friends,
I'm in the process of having a new house built. For those of you who have experience with central vacuums, do you find that was money well spent for the appliance?
Thanks,
Gort


Definitely yes.
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Postby Epsilon Delta » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:03 am

frugaltype wrote:
BolderBoy wrote:House I bought had one in it. I asked a contractor what he thought of them. "They are something that someone with too much money installs."

I removed it and never looked back. My housekeeper brings her own equipment and supplies.


Your housekeeper should be the one replying :-)

Perhaps, but part of the test for employee v. contractor is "who supplies the tools". Some professional housekeepers insist on using their own tools to help stay on the right side of the IRS.
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Postby mikestorm » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:14 am

SnapShots wrote:
wingnutty wrote:We moved into a house that has central vac. We don't really care for it and don't really use it at all. I would never spend money to put it in. We have a dyson and it is just easier to move that from room to room than it is the central vac hose. With the quality of today's vacuums, I just don't see the need for central vac. I mean, you still have to haul around vac hose, so I fail to see how there is a reduction in time and hassle, plus, I think it is actually more of a pain to lug the vacuum hose around than it is to roll the dyson around.


+1 We've had a central vac for 22 years. It still works but I quit using it about 5 years ago or longer. The hose and attachments take up a lot of room to store. The suction isn't as good as a regular sweeper. When dragging the hose around wall-corners it gets the wall dirty, because the cloth-hose-cover drags along your floors and gets dirty. It is a huge!!!!! hassle to remove it, wash it and put it back on.

They work well on tile and wood floors, not so good for carpet, because they don't have the suction power of a regular sweeper. I have a lot of tile but I wouldn't put another one in.


+1
Bought a house last year with central vac installed. Between SnapShots and wingnutty, they have perfectly encapsulated what it's like. We use the Dyson.

That said, somehting that we don't have in our system is a sweep inlet in the kitchen. Google them. Pretty cool. I'd use the system more if we had those strategically placed around our hardwood floors.
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby ryuns » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:06 pm

I can see some of the benefits that people are mentioning, but it does seem like the cumbersomeness (word?) of the vacuum hose is higher than a regular vacuum, but that weight and maneuverability are better. It surprises me that I rarely see or hear of anyone who uses the commercial-style backpack-based vacuums. You still have the added weight, of course, but assuming you don't have any health/mobility issues that preclude wearing a backpack, you'd have a far easier time maneuvering the actual suction part. Something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Hoover-C2401-Shou ... m_sbs_hg_5
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby zaboomafoozarg » Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:00 am

BolderBoy wrote:House I bought had one in it. I asked a contractor what he thought of them. "They are something that someone with too much money installs."

I removed it and never looked back. My housekeeper brings her own equipment and supplies.


That's funny, I always say the same thing about having a housekeeper :D
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Had one, don't now, unhappy

Postby davebarnes » Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:27 pm

We had one for 24 years. Loved it.
Moved into new house and found out that we cannot have one installed as our house is too modern. Unhappy.
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby hexturtle » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:27 pm

I have a central vac and I use it on hard floors but not on carpets as the suction is not very good. It's okay for picking up dust bunnies. The hose is very cumbersome and awkward to take up and down the stairs. It is a tripping hazard and it takes up a lot of space. We had the outlets taped up for a few years when our son was little as he liked putting his toys in there. I wouldn't get one. My upright vaccum is just as easy to take up and down the stairs.
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby scooter » Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:33 pm

I installed my own system 25 years ago in an existing house and my wife loves it. I installed one outlet on 2nd floor and two on first floor.
I have one in the cellar and wish I had installed on in the garage.

Only have to empty it every 3-4 months which takes two minutes.

The 25 foot hose and attachments take up less space in closet than regular vac.

One repair in 25 years. Mine is a HP vacuflo

It will be very to install when walls are open than later on.
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Re: Building new house - central vacuum worth it?

Postby abuss368 » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:05 pm

I had one friend who had this in an existing house he purchased. He never liked it and often noted he preferred a simple vaccum.
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