prudent wrote:Not only is bit rot something to worry about, but there is also file format obsolescence and hardware/application obsolescence to deal with.
statsguy wrote:prudent wrote:Not only is bit rot something to worry about, but there is also file format obsolescence and hardware/application obsolescence to deal with.
Tell me about it, we backed up onto 3.5" disks that we can no longer access.
Leesbro63 wrote:So is BITROT a worry for me or not? I'm not worried about media obsolescence...I'll keep up as new technologies develop.
patrick wrote:Media will of course wear out eventually, but even that seems a bit overblown. The big advantage of digital is of course that you can always make an exact copy, allowing the data to outlast the media, unlike analog which will degrade when copied. But even then I have been able to succesfully read hard disks over 20 years old, and sometimes even 20 year old floppy disks. I don't have any 20 year old CD-Rs but have read them after more than 10 years. Purely for curiosity's sake, of course -- I had copied them to newer disks much sooner and wouldn't recommend relying on media lasting the long -- better safe than sorry.
pjstack wrote:Um,... There's always paper (gasp!)
Paper made from wood-based pulp that has not had its lignin removed turns yellow, becomes brittle, and deteriorates over time.[2] When exposed to light and/or heat, the molecules in the acidic paper will break down even faster.[3] It was only in the 1930s that the effects of wood-pulp paper became known, when William Barrow (a librarian) published a report about the deterioration of acidic paper in the libraries.[4]
Valuethinker wrote:We should also be aware that any kind of high atmospheric level atomic detonation, or a specifically designed Electro Magnetic Pulse (EMP) weapon, could wipe out much of the data in a wide area below it.
So if there was some sort of 'high altitude war' that led to say 10-20 atomic detonations in the stratosphere, a *lot* of data would be corrupted, forever....
Valuethinker wrote:pjstack wrote:Um,... There's always paper (gasp!)
I don't know how bad a problem it is now, but every looked at a 50 year old paperback? (there are many in my parents' basement). Crumbling.
Most paper in the 20th century was high acid. It won't last a century. Whereas documents from the 1500s, 1600s, 1700s are still around, most paper documents from the 20th centurey will be dust in 100 years.
dumbmoney wrote:My oldest CD-Rs are from 1994 and they are still readable. But as you say, you can't rely on media longevity. Regular copying is key.
kitteh wrote:Valuethinker wrote:pjstack wrote:Um,... There's always paper (gasp!)
I don't know how bad a problem it is now, but every looked at a 50 year old paperback? (there are many in my parents' basement). Crumbling.
Most paper in the 20th century was high acid. It won't last a century. Whereas documents from the 1500s, 1600s, 1700s are still around, most paper documents from the 20th centurey will be dust in 100 years.
As you note, acid free paper is the solution to this, and is widely used in legal documents, for example. While current paperbacks do not last long, hardcover books I have that are fifty years old or older are in fine shape. Meanwhile books from centuries past have decaying leather covers.
pheleven wrote:Valuethinker wrote:We should also be aware that any kind of high atmospheric level atomic detonation, or a specifically designed Electro Magnetic Pulse (EMP) weapon, could wipe out much of the data in a wide area below it.
So if there was some sort of 'high altitude war' that led to say 10-20 atomic detonations in the stratosphere, a *lot* of data would be corrupted, forever....
Better get one of these to hold your (properly hashed) backups... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage
nisiprius wrote:Those who are inclined to blame the victim will point out that all of these are surmountable with enough time and energy. But really, think about it. In order to avoid this kind of software rot, it is necessary to have in place a continuous evaluation program that takes a continuous inventory of every digital document you have, and continuously upconvert them to new formats. A task rendered difficult by the fact that many pieces of software will upconvert individual documents when you open them, but do not have any batch conversion capability.
nisiprius wrote:I'm not even talking about my graduate research records on 7-track NRZI 1/2" tape...
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