Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
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Thanks.
Lexus:
* 2002
* RX 300
* AWD
* V6-3.0L (1MZ-FE)
* Miles 93,000
Estimate:
Timing belt 89.00
Fan belt 51.00
Fan belt 14.00
Waterpump 183.00
Timing belt tensioner 94.00
Coolant 30.00
Labor 94.00/hr * 4.5 hr 423.00
Labor total 423.00
Parts total 461.00
Sub-Total 884.00
Parts tax
Thanks.
Lexus:
* 2002
* RX 300
* AWD
* V6-3.0L (1MZ-FE)
* Miles 93,000
Estimate:
Timing belt 89.00
Fan belt 51.00
Fan belt 14.00
Waterpump 183.00
Timing belt tensioner 94.00
Coolant 30.00
Labor 94.00/hr * 4.5 hr 423.00
Labor total 423.00
Parts total 461.00
Sub-Total 884.00
Parts tax
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Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
I got almost the same estimate for my 1999 Honda Odessey. Did not do it.
Seems high. However friends told me around $400, with minimal changes, such as no water pump change is normal.
Seems high. However friends told me around $400, with minimal changes, such as no water pump change is normal.
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Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
Is this quote from a dealership? It seems high. We had our timing belt and water pump replaced along with all necessary fluids etc at a cost of around $400.00 from the local mechanic.
Also, I thought Toyota/Lexus went to 110,000 miles before needing the timing belt. What does your manual say?
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Also, I thought Toyota/Lexus went to 110,000 miles before needing the timing belt. What does your manual say?
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Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
Sounds a bit high, but the $94 labor rate contributes. You might find an independent shop to do it for less, but you want to be sure that they are using genuine Toyota parts, this is no place to go aftermarket.
I assume that the service interval on this is 90k, and if that is what is called for I say go for it. The water pump is included as they have it in their hands when the do the timing belt, it makes sense to go ahead with that replacement as indicated
I assume that the service interval on this is 90k, and if that is what is called for I say go for it. The water pump is included as they have it in their hands when the do the timing belt, it makes sense to go ahead with that replacement as indicated
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I believe this is an interference engine, when the timing belt goes there will be a catastrophic engine failure, BIG BUCKS to repair (likely a used/rebuilt engine) I would change the timing belt according to the manufacturer's advice.Ruby wrote:I got almost the same estimate for my 1999 Honda Odessey. Did not do it.
Seems high. However friends told me around $400, with minimal changes, such as no water pump change is normal.
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Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
Maybe a bit high, but not outrageous. Remember not to cheap out on things like the water pump on this job. If it starts leaking at 100,000 miles, you will be paying most of the same labor all over again to get it replaced.
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That is what happens when you are driving the high-end cars vs. the standard Toyota models.
Don't mess around with the timing belt - when you reach the miles, change it or an engine replacement will cost you far more.
It's the labor that costs.
Don't mess around with the timing belt - when you reach the miles, change it or an engine replacement will cost you far more.
It's the labor that costs.
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+1 Agree ,manufacturer's recommendation.TheGreyingDuke wrote:I believe this is an interference engine, when the timing belt goes there will be a catastrophic engine failure, BIG BUCKS to repair (likely a used/rebuilt engine) I would change the timing belt according to the manufacturer's advice.Ruby wrote:I got almost the same estimate for my 1999 Honda Odessey. Did not do it.
Seems high. However friends told me around $400, with minimal changes, such as no water pump change is normal.
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I had a 1989 BMW 325I,drove it beyond the mileage recommendation for timing belt replacement and belt broke(interference engine)Fortunately no engine damage.
When I bought my used 1999 Civic ,belt replacement recommended at 90k or 7 years.Belt had never been replaced,that was the first thing I had done. It cost around 350.00
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Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
Check what a Toyota dealership will charge.
Also, this SUV is 12 years old. It is probably not worth more than $5,000, so a $1,000 repair (with tax) is probably not worth it. I'd drive the car another 3 years before doing this bit. If the car croaks, so what?
I have the same car, but older with fewer miles. I will give it to my daughter when she graduates from college. The timing belt will be her problem.
Also, this SUV is 12 years old. It is probably not worth more than $5,000, so a $1,000 repair (with tax) is probably not worth it. I'd drive the car another 3 years before doing this bit. If the car croaks, so what?
I have the same car, but older with fewer miles. I will give it to my daughter when she graduates from college. The timing belt will be her problem.
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Seems within the realm of reasonableness although $94 per hr service seems a little high. You have a good car and need to take care of it. You do not want to have a failed water pump or timing belt on the road. Both of those can cause big problems. I have been using Toyota products for nearly 40 years and have always found their service to be very good and not as expensive as some of their competition. I assume this applies to Lexus as well.
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You might could get it done for a couple hundy cheaper, but you bought a Lexus, they figure you can afford the work.
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Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
This is why a vehicle with a timing chain, not belt, is my preference. Good for life of the car.
I learned this the hard way after a failed timing belt destroyed my vehicle back in the day!
I learned this the hard way after a failed timing belt destroyed my vehicle back in the day!
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Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
I had estimate of over $1,100 for 90K service (that includes timing-belt replacement) for my ES-300 from Firestone. That did not seem bad in comparison with $1,500 dealer's fee. But I went ahead and go more quotes from local small shops, and found small shop with excellent yelp reviews in a less-well-to-do part of my metro area that did the same 90K service for... $550.
Despite great reviews and good vibes I got on the spot, I requested my old timing belt to be given back to me by the way, to be 100% sure that was done. The truth is, they just charge much cheaper labor rates than larger shops, and use non-EOM parts--which are just fine for my 10yo car. They told me that the same manufacturer produces EOM parts and that it really is the same item just under different label.
My advice: don't skip mandatory services but do shop around
Despite great reviews and good vibes I got on the spot, I requested my old timing belt to be given back to me by the way, to be 100% sure that was done. The truth is, they just charge much cheaper labor rates than larger shops, and use non-EOM parts--which are just fine for my 10yo car. They told me that the same manufacturer produces EOM parts and that it really is the same item just under different label.
My advice: don't skip mandatory services but do shop around
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Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
This does not look excessive. Do it and you'll never have to do it again for this car.
You could do it yourself and save the labor, but with a transverse mounted engine packed
tightly in the engine compartment, I wouldn't.
I just had the fuelpump and fuel filter in a Buick. That was about $1K, and my shop only charges 84/hr.
I considered doing ot myself, but things are packed in too tight anymore, and parts are placed
where it is very difficult to work on them, expecially without a lift.
You could do it yourself and save the labor, but with a transverse mounted engine packed
tightly in the engine compartment, I wouldn't.
I just had the fuelpump and fuel filter in a Buick. That was about $1K, and my shop only charges 84/hr.
I considered doing ot myself, but things are packed in too tight anymore, and parts are placed
where it is very difficult to work on them, expecially without a lift.
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Back in '06 or '07 I had the timing belt changed for a '94 Acura Integra. Close to $400. A couple days later I heard a weird sound on my way home after work. After hearing the weird sound for 2 miles the car lost power. The new timing belt snapped. Fortunately the shop was honest and said they made a mistake, however I was really luck not to have any damage. The shop did test compression before returning it to me.
I would probably get a couple other estimates and then proceed given the additional information.
I would probably get a couple other estimates and then proceed given the additional information.
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Doesn't sound that horrendous, I have a friend with a Jaguar and he spends $3-$4k for tune-ups!
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Non-luxo cars can be pricey, too. This is my repair note for my '98 Subaru Outback, 4cyl.:
Replace timing belt, water pump, timing belt tensioner, all 4 cam seals and front crankshaft seal; install new fan belts. Coolant.
(timing belt kit) $953.40.
Repair done by non-dealer small shop, top rated in local consumer magazine.
I can't remember is the cam seals and crankshaft seal were integral to the belt replacement, part of the kit, or something added to try to stop slow oil leaks? If this was a TV game show, I'd bet on "part of the kit." Final answer.
Cheers,
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P.S. Edit note: Repair was 5 years ago; would probably cost more now. Subaru had 76M on it.
Replace timing belt, water pump, timing belt tensioner, all 4 cam seals and front crankshaft seal; install new fan belts. Coolant.
(timing belt kit) $953.40.
Repair done by non-dealer small shop, top rated in local consumer magazine.
I can't remember is the cam seals and crankshaft seal were integral to the belt replacement, part of the kit, or something added to try to stop slow oil leaks? If this was a TV game show, I'd bet on "part of the kit." Final answer.
Cheers,
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P.S. Edit note: Repair was 5 years ago; would probably cost more now. Subaru had 76M on it.
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Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
If I recall, these seals were suppose to fix a design flaw in this engine, Subaru did some of them under warranty. you can look http://www.scoobyenthusiast.com/subaru- ... and-repairbill99 wrote:Non-luxo cars can be pricey, too. This is my repair note for my '98 Subaru Outback, 4cyl.:
Replace timing belt, water pump, timing belt tensioner, all 4 cam seals and front crankshaft seal; install new fan belts. Coolant.
(timing belt kit) $953.40.
Repair done by non-dealer small shop, top rated in local consumer magazine.
I can't remember is the cam seals and crankshaft seal were integral to the belt replacement, part of the kit, or something added to try to stop slow oil leaks? If this was a TV game show, I'd bet on "part of the kit." Final answer.
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Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
The estimate is not bad. you might be able to find a local mechanic that specializes on servicing Lexus vehicles who may be cheaper. Replacing the timing belt is at least a 4-6 hour job.
I use a mechanic that specializes in toyota and honda including luxury vehicles.I've noticed their labor rates have been rising over the last several years. The were $60 per hour when I started using them and now they are around $90 per hour. the labor seems in line with your quote.
I use a mechanic that specializes in toyota and honda including luxury vehicles.I've noticed their labor rates have been rising over the last several years. The were $60 per hour when I started using them and now they are around $90 per hour. the labor seems in line with your quote.
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Looks a bit high but that is not surprising for a Lexus. As another poster suggested, get an estimate from a Toyota dealer. I had all my RX non-warranty work done at our local Toyota dealer - usually for 1/3 to 1/2 less than was quoted by the Lexus dealer. An RX is mechanically very similar if not identical to a Toyota Highlander.
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Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
I had a 1998 Toyota Camry - and it was NOT an interference engine, i.e. timing belt failure would not damage the engine - just stalls it. Don't know about RX 300 though, but maybe they are genetically related coming from the same gene pool.TheGreyingDuke wrote:I believe this is an interference engine, when the timing belt goes there will be a catastrophic engine failure, BIG BUCKS to repair (likely a used/rebuilt engine) I would change the timing belt according to the manufacturer's advice.
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Write the check and drive it for another 100K miles. It's a screaming bargain.
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This information about interference engine was in response to a post about a Honda Odyssey (1999) which is an interference engine,Sunny Sarkar wrote:I had a 1998 Toyota Camry - and it was NOT an interference engine, i.e. timing belt failure would not damage the engine - just stalls it. Don't know about RX 300 though, but maybe they are genetically related coming from the same gene pool.TheGreyingDuke wrote:I believe this is an interference engine, when the timing belt goes there will be a catastrophic engine failure, BIG BUCKS to repair (likely a used/rebuilt engine) I would change the timing belt according to the manufacturer's advice.
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Tell all your friends how much it costs to repair your Lexus. They might think your are very successful, rich, and wise, if they are young and stupid.
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"Toyota all the way. After all, the RX is just an overpriced Highlander"...recommendation from another forum on this discussion said to get a quote form a Toyota dealership. Someone that worked for a dealership said they charged $850 also. This is the very reason I buy 4 cylinder engines with timing chains.
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The parts don't seem too high. $30 for new coolant is a good deal. All Toyotas come with the special red coolant and you never want to mix it with the other stuff unless you drain 100%. It's probably $40 just to buy a gallon to do a coolant flush yourself. I assume Lexus has the same red coolant? If you can get the part numbers you could probably order the water pump and belts yourself, but then you would have to find someone to put it on or do it yourself.
What about the thermostat? Might as well change that if you are changing the belts, pump, and coolant.
I have an older Toyota that is not worth very much. I have no problem dropping some serious coin on quality work and OEM parts. I have an obscure engine and had bad experiences with independent mechanics messing things up, putting in way too much oil, ect. Even though I do not like the dealer prices they know the cars inside and out.
What about the thermostat? Might as well change that if you are changing the belts, pump, and coolant.
I have an older Toyota that is not worth very much. I have no problem dropping some serious coin on quality work and OEM parts. I have an obscure engine and had bad experiences with independent mechanics messing things up, putting in way too much oil, ect. Even though I do not like the dealer prices they know the cars inside and out.
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What timing for this thread and my car!
My 1998 Toyota Camry needs timing belt replacement as well. Total quote provided by a local independent reputable mechanic is $1060. This includes water pump and seals etc. I also needed a new radiator -- $500.
This car has been reliable thus far and gets lightly used, less than 5000 miles a year. It is at about 140000 miles. I've owned this car for about 7 years; it will hopefully give us another few years of service.
My 1998 Toyota Camry needs timing belt replacement as well. Total quote provided by a local independent reputable mechanic is $1060. This includes water pump and seals etc. I also needed a new radiator -- $500.
This car has been reliable thus far and gets lightly used, less than 5000 miles a year. It is at about 140000 miles. I've owned this car for about 7 years; it will hopefully give us another few years of service.
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Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
The dealerships also have a solid markup in their prices. Just searching a popular national auto parts chain I came up with the following:goru1 wrote: Estimate:
Timing belt 89.00
Fan belt 51.00
Fan belt 14.00
Waterpump 183.00
Timing belt tensioner 94.00
Coolant 30.00
Labor 94.00/hr * 4.5 hr 423.00
Labor total 423.00
Parts total 461.00
Sub-Total 884.00
Parts tax
Timing belt: 21.99
Fan belt: 11.99
Waterpump: It said call for availability but another search revealed another site with them priced at 59.98
Timing belt tensioner: 55.99
I'd be willing to bet that this could be done with fairly common hand tools. I don't know what your mechanical comfort level is but I'd buy a Haynes Repair Manual for your specific vehicle and then knock it out in an afternoon. Then you could go inside, have a beer, and smile about the $650 you saved yourself.
PS: Where are you located? If you're in my area, I'd be willing to help you out for free.
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I would be wary about using anything other than Toyota parts for this repair, the quality can vary tremendously as compared to non-official brands. If you are doing it yourself, there are places to buy the official Toyota parts at discount from the dealer price, search and you wil be rewarded.CordMcNally wrote: Fan belt: 11.99
Waterpump: It said call for availability but another search revealed another site with them priced at 59.98
Timing belt tensioner: 55.99
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OEM parts all the way. Only parts/fluids I don't use OEM is brake drums/rotor, brake pads, oil and oil filters. The only reason I don't use OEM on those is I believe there are better quality sources for those items. It is not worth the potential early failure and paying to have the job done a second time by using inferior parts. I understand this logic isn't universal and that there are a small amount of vehicles that have an aftermarket that does better than OEM.
For non mechanical items, interior/exterior components, I have used ebay and rockauto.com.
If you want to DIY or get an idea of the work involved: toyotanation.com: 1MZ-FE DIY Timing Belt
There are some YouTube videos of the procedure a few post down.
More: http://diyservice-en.blogspot.com/2011/ ... mz-fe.html
More: http://hardlymoving.hubpages.com/hub/To ... alon-ES300
More: http://yotarepair.com/1FZ-ME_timingbelt.html
More: http://www.justanswer.com/uploads/johnd ... 405_X0.pdf
For non mechanical items, interior/exterior components, I have used ebay and rockauto.com.
No way I would put a $22 timing belt on a $35k vehicle let alone a $20k one.CordMcNally wrote:Timing belt: 21.99
If you want to DIY or get an idea of the work involved: toyotanation.com: 1MZ-FE DIY Timing Belt
There are some YouTube videos of the procedure a few post down.
More: http://diyservice-en.blogspot.com/2011/ ... mz-fe.html
More: http://hardlymoving.hubpages.com/hub/To ... alon-ES300
More: http://yotarepair.com/1FZ-ME_timingbelt.html
More: http://www.justanswer.com/uploads/johnd ... 405_X0.pdf
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It is a challenging do it yourself project, but can be done. On my 2005 Honda my son in law spent about 3 days getting it accomplished. Problem was breaking the crankshaft bolt to remove the timing belt pulley. Because of the transverse mounted engine, you get at it through the tire well. I had a socket with a 6 foot pipe extension and it would not loosen. Had to go borrow an impact wrench and was finally able to break it loose. And even with the impact wrench it was a challenge. However once past that step it was a fairly straight forward project. Doing it yourself with some OEM and some Honda parts total cost was around $250.
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I just bought a 2005 Sequoia (not a Boglehead car wrt fuel consumption, but it was a stonking deal) that had never had the timing belt changed and was at 133k miles (recommended: 90k). I shopped around at multiple Toyota dealerships to have the work (along with the water pump replacement) done. The dealership that did the pre-purchase inspection offered a "special deal" of $900. I called other dealerships and made mention of a "special deal" offered at the first. Got another place closer to my home to do the work at 10% off. Total cost: about the same as the OP's cost. About the same regarding labor rate and time as well.Grt2bOutdoors wrote:That is what happens when you are driving the high-end cars vs. the standard Toyota models.
Around $900 sounds about right to have it done at the dealer.
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Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
I agree that it is not excessive, but never say never! I'm on my 3rd timing belt. (98 4Runner, 190K, still running strong)MathWizard wrote:This does not look excessive. Do it and you'll never have to do it again for this car.
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I agree. We have a 96 4Runner with 201,000 and on third belt. We always replace everything and hope for 300,000. According to Gates belts your car 2002 Lexus RX 300 3.0L has an interference engine.stingray5688 wrote:I agree that it is not excessive, but never say never! I'm on my 3rd timing belt. (98 4Runner, 190K, still running strong)MathWizard wrote:This does not look excessive. Do it and you'll never have to do it again for this car.
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Go to the local TM dealer ( and buy some TM stock its on a tear),we took my wife's RX330 there for the timing belt,same engine as the Highlander ( and they have to do them too-there is NO more cost involved in driving a RX 300(330) then a Highlander) and the tech who does your will have dome more then the one at the Lexus dealer
get the water pump and have them check the pulleys/tensioner
get the water pump and have them check the pulleys/tensioner
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+1 It's a fair price for a V-6 with coolant change out, water pump, tensioner, belts. You might be able to go to a small shop and save a hundred or so, but make certain they refill with the good coolant, not some cheap coolant with silicates--good luck with that.StretchArmstrong wrote:The parts don't seem too high. $30 for new coolant is a good deal. All Toyotas come with the special red coolant and you never want to mix it with the other stuff unless you drain 100%. It's probably $40 just to buy a gallon to do a coolant flush yourself. I assume Lexus has the same red coolant? If you can get the part numbers you could probably order the water pump and belts yourself, but then you would have to find someone to put it on or do it yourself.
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don't do it if you are going to buy the Sienna in your other post.
otherwise, seems like a fair price.
otherwise, seems like a fair price.
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Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
I have a 2002 IS300, so probably the same engine. I had my timing belt replaced by Lexus a few months ago, and the price was similar.
I also debated this in my head. In the end I decided that I'd rather pay $1k to keep the car running for a while longer than $MultipleKs to buy a new one...livesoft wrote:Check what a Toyota dealership will charge.
Also, this SUV is 12 years old. It is probably not worth more than $5,000, so a $1,000 repair (with tax) is probably not worth it. I'd drive the car another 3 years before doing this bit. If the car croaks, so what?
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During my oil change yesterday, the local Toyota Dealer told me my 06 4Runner had a leaky water pump. Only has 56k miles on it, but is a 6.5 year old car. They quoted me $750 for the water pump and timing belt (since they would already be in there). I'm going to check around and see about pricing. First off to check with the other 3 Toyota dealers around me. Also had a recommendation for an independent shop and need to research them. I'm also concerned about having inferior service done, but know that traditionally, dealers were viewed to be swindlers.
They also said my front brakes need to be replaced for $250. These are the original brakes, so I knew that one was coming someday. These would be the first major-ish repairs on the truck since I got it. Everything else has been oil changes and tires.
They also said my front brakes need to be replaced for $250. These are the original brakes, so I knew that one was coming someday. These would be the first major-ish repairs on the truck since I got it. Everything else has been oil changes and tires.
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I would get another opinion. We have our 96 4Runner serviced at a very good independent shop. We have 201,000 miles and have had 3 timing belts and water pumps,tensioners,etc. done by them. 96 calls for 60,000 replacement. The strange thing is we are still on the original brakes. Every year I take it in for brakes. They pull off a front wheel and show me there is plenty left. Please no comments about bleeding lines, hoses,etc. This is a Good shop and I am a way past former mechanic. Trust is nice.Good luck.BrandonBogle wrote:During my oil change yesterday, the local Toyota Dealer told me my 06 4Runner had a leaky water pump. Only has 56k miles on it, but is a 6.5 year old car. They quoted me $750 for the water pump and timing belt (since they would already be in there). I'm going to check around and see about pricing. First off to check with the other 3 Toyota dealers around me. Also had a recommendation for an independent shop and need to research them. I'm also concerned about having inferior service done, but know that traditionally, dealers were viewed to be swindlers.
They also said my front brakes need to be replaced for $250. These are the original brakes, so I knew that one was coming someday. These would be the first major-ish repairs on the truck since I got it. Everything else has been oil changes and tires.
Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
The usual rationale for replacing the water pump is that it is a cheap part but the labor to get to it is expensive. Doesn't make as much sense to me when they are charging $183 for the part. 40 plus years of driving, mostly older cars and no water pump problems yet.
Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
+1. $884 is fair price. I used to pay $700 for timing belt, water pump and other belts but my car was about half the RX 300 price of same year.aude wrote:Maybe a bit high, but not outrageous. Remember not to cheap out on things like the water pump on this job. If it starts leaking at 100,000 miles, you will be paying most of the same labor all over again to get it replaced.
Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
I took my 2002 RX 300 Lexus 70,000 miles to Naples, FL dealership. I need Timing Belt and Waterpump. $1786 complete job.
I am a 1 car owner of this car, but it is older now. This price is twice what is in your Forum, but it is 2015 now.
Any help out there on if this is the going rate.
Thanks
I am a 1 car owner of this car, but it is older now. This price is twice what is in your Forum, but it is 2015 now.
Any help out there on if this is the going rate.
Thanks
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Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
100,000 miles or 100 months is a rough guideline - the latter accounts for rubber degrading with time depending on your weather. Price sounds about right - I've had much cheaper @ 100k, but ALL they did was the timing belt, probably to compete on price and dealer figuring that I'd sell it or trade it in them before the next one. In the interim, I realize that the belts done since could've been done for no extra labor @ the time since they have to come off anyway. The timing belt pulleys and tensioner often lose their mojo even if the belt looks great. @200k our original tensioner was leaking and the original pulleys didn't sound so good, belt looked great but old belts can fail especially if the tensioner fails and pulleys seize. Water pump is bulletproof (Subaru), but metal gasket can rust, the seal fails and there you are in the Bonneville Salt Flats with angry spouse. I figure I got my Boglehead value out of 200k on that puppy, but I don't think I'd cheap out on it again. I like OEM although lots of folks go with Gates kit and tell me they have no problems. I figure these parts keep me alive on the highway @ 80 mph (hypothetically, of course), and breaking down going over any long (or short) bridge SUCKS. Local independent with great recommendations is the way to go if available.
Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
My car had a timing chain. To replace the water pump, which failed around 80k, the chain - and of course everything else on the front of the engine - had to be removed. The only savings was the price of the belt, which was insignificant compared to the 8+ hours of labor.tuckeverlasting wrote:This is why a vehicle with a timing chain, not belt, is my preference. Good for life of the car.
I learned this the hard way after a failed timing belt destroyed my vehicle back in the day!
Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
Why do you "need" this?nanfrazee wrote:I took my 2002 RX 300 Lexus 70,000 miles to Naples, FL dealership. I need Timing Belt and Waterpump. $1786 complete job.
I am a 1 car owner of this car, but it is older now. This price is twice what is in your Forum, but it is 2015 now.
Any help out there on if this is the going rate.
Thanks
BTW, I can confirm that Lexus dealerships will negotiate (but don't tell anyone).
Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
Many d-i-y posts here understate the difficulty of jobs like this, and the array of equipment required. It In many cases you don't just need an impact wrench; you need a commercial-grade impact wrench driven by commercial-grade compressor. I have a consumer-grade impact wrench and it really can't remove bolts that I can't remove by hand. When I do jobs like this, it usually takes me at least several times longer than a pro.l2ridehd wrote:It is a challenging do it yourself project, but can be done. On my 2005 Honda my son in law spent about 3 days getting it accomplished. Problem was breaking the crankshaft bolt to remove the timing belt pulley. Because of the transverse mounted engine, you get at it through the tire well. I had a socket with a 6 foot pipe extension and it would not loosen. Had to go borrow an impact wrench and was finally able to break it loose. And even with the impact wrench it was a challenge. However once past that step it was a fairly straight forward project. Doing it yourself with some OEM and some Honda parts total cost was around $250.
Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
Nanfrazee,
Based on what I did at my local Lexus dealer for our 2001 Lexus ES300 a year ago, I would say your pricing is about $800 too high.
Based on what I did at my local Lexus dealer for our 2001 Lexus ES300 a year ago, I would say your pricing is about $800 too high.
Tom D.
Re: Lexus RX 300. Timing belt. $884.
1. That price is perfectly normal.tibbitts wrote:Many d-i-y posts here understate the difficulty of jobs like this, and the array of equipment required. It In many cases you don't just need an impact wrench; you need a commercial-grade impact wrench driven by commercial-grade compressor. I have a consumer-grade impact wrench and it really can't remove bolts that I can't remove by hand. When I do jobs like this, it usually takes me at least several times longer than a pro.l2ridehd wrote:It is a challenging do it yourself project, but can be done. On my 2005 Honda my son in law spent about 3 days getting it accomplished. Problem was breaking the crankshaft bolt to remove the timing belt pulley. Because of the transverse mounted engine, you get at it through the tire well. I had a socket with a 6 foot pipe extension and it would not loosen. Had to go borrow an impact wrench and was finally able to break it loose. And even with the impact wrench it was a challenge. However once past that step it was a fairly straight forward project. Doing it yourself with some OEM and some Honda parts total cost was around $250.
2. I agree that this is a very difficult DIY project for someone who has not done it before and who does not have some very good tools. The crankshaft bolt is torqued to 160-180 ft-lbs, and is very hard to get off. And the precision required to line everything up can be difficult for a newbie. Also, every bolt really should be torqued exactly to spec unless you have a lot of experience.
3. I own a car with this same engine (an avalon), and the engine oddly is labeled by some parts stores and suppliers like Gates as an interference engine. It definitely has a non-interference engine (this has been verified by toyotanation.com). This means if the belt breaks, the engine is not damaged. However, these belts rarely break, even at 200,000 miles. They are heavily reinforced. They do, however, stretch out over time, and throw off the timing (and thus the gas efficiency). It should be changed every 90k or 10 years.