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Vanguard statements now have portrait orientation.

Postby gkaplan » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:00 pm

I downloaded my 2013 Quarter 1 Vanguard statement and was pleased to discover that the statements now are in portrait orientation as opposed to the previous landscape orientation.

(I also was pleased how quickly Vanguard made available the Quarter 1 statements – the first day of the new quarter.)
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Re: Vanguard statements now have portrait orientation.

Postby taichifan » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:28 pm

Annoyingly, mine were still in landscape mode, which I did not discover until I had printed out two of them. However, it was nice to have them on the first day of the month.
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Re: Vanguard statements now have portrait orientation.

Postby umfundi » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:01 am

Mine are still landscape (do I care?).

We have multiple accounts for various family members. Not all the statements are there (yet?).

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Re: Vanguard statements now have portrait orientation.

Postby Sidney » Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:18 am

umfundi wrote:Mine are still landscape (do I care?).

We have multiple accounts for various family members. Not all the statements are there (yet?).

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When I open mine in the Adobe Reader they are still landscape. Better for viewing this way.
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Re: Vanguard statements now have portrait orientation.

Postby Calm Man » Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:33 am

You made my day. Mine indeed are now upright. I guess they got enough complaints. I still count a maximum of 14 lines available per fund as my money market ran onto a second page. There is still plenty of wasted space and they could still add some more lines but this is an improvement.
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Re: Vanguard statements now have portrait orientation.

Postby linenfort » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:16 am

Why is portrait better? Does opening the landscape-oriented PDFs in Adobe require rotation to view? (I don't know because I don't use Adobe).
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Re: Vanguard statements now have portrait orientation.

Postby bertilak » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:18 am

linenfort wrote:Why is portrait better?

For the same reason that most written material is in portrait mode. Usually, but depending on the content, it is easier to read that way.

60 lines of text will usually fit on one portrait page but take two landscape pages.

Headers and footers take up (waste?) a bigger percentage of the page in a landscape orientation.

What orientation is the Mona Lisa in? :happy

(I'm disliking landscape mode more and more as I write this!)
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Re: Vanguard statements now have portrait orientation.

Postby Sidney » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:30 am

linenfort wrote:Why is portrait better? Does opening the landscape-oriented PDFs in Adobe require rotation to view? (I don't know because I don't use Adobe).

I like the landscape mode because of the aspect ratio of the large lat panel display makes it easy to show a full page on the screen. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter a whole lot. I don't look at statements very long -- just long enough to reconcile the share counts if I have any transactions that quarter. IMO the only data that matters on the statements is the share counts. Once a day clicks by after the statements are struck, the valuations are meaningless.
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Re: Vanguard statements now have portrait orientation.

Postby LH » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:36 am

gkaplan wrote:I downloaded my 2013 Quarter 1 Vanguard statement and was pleased to discover that the statements now are in portrait orientation as opposed to the previous landscape orientation.

(I also was pleased how quickly Vanguard made available the Quarter 1 statements – the first day of the new quarter.)



Heh, we really are Vanguard gearheads here
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Re: Vanguard statements now have portrait orientation.

Postby FinancialDave » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:05 pm

Seems like some are getting special treatment --- maybe the better looking ones need the "portrait" orientation!

I seem to have more of a "backyard" kind of orientation!

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Re: Vanguard statements now have portrait orientation.

Postby Dulocracy » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:44 pm

FinancialDave wrote:I seem to have more of a "backyard" kind of orientation!


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Re: Vanguard statements now have portrait orientation.

Postby mickeyd » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:53 pm

I'm still on the old school mail-it-to-me version. It's one of the few things that I actually like to receive in the mail. I'll report back if there is any change in format when I get it next week.
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Re: Vanguard statements now have portrait orientation.

Postby linenfort » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:02 am

Sidney wrote:
linenfort wrote:Why is portrait better? Does opening the landscape-oriented PDFs in Adobe require rotation to view? (I don't know because I don't use Adobe).

I like the landscape mode because of the aspect ratio of the large lat panel display makes it easy to show a full page on the screen.


Same here. My monitor is landscape.

@bertilak: are you using an old, squarish monitor by any chance? Then, the desire for portrait would make sense.
As for the Mona Lisa, well, many fine paintings are in landscape. Landscapes, for example.
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Re: Vanguard statements now have portrait orientation.

Postby neurosphere » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:58 pm

linenfort wrote:@bertilak: are you using an old, squarish monitor by any chance? Then, the desire for portrait would make sense.
As for the Mona Lisa, well, many fine paintings are in landscape. Landscapes, for example.


I have this monitor: http://www.dell.com/ed/business/p/dell-u2913wm/pd

But I STILL prefer portrait. I rarely print anything anymore, but for reading hard copies portrait is better for me. Also, given how large monitors are in general, even in portrait, the entire page can be viewed at full size. The vertical dimensions of most screens are just about 11" nowadays.

anyway, there is no right answer to this. But my preference is most decidedly for portrait layout of all financial statements for both online and hardcopy viewing. :)
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Re: Vanguard statements now have portrait orientation.

Postby Carls » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:49 pm

Having left Vanguard years ago because of their then (for me) complex monthly statement formats, I'm really interested to learn more about recent changes. Do they still report each fund as a separate "account" on separate pages? Or do their funds now get listed row-by-row on the same page so that you can see holdings all at once? (Yes, I did write CJ Dennis at Vanguard's Concierge Services - but he cannot apparently send a "sample" statement.) As I remember, there was also an issue with the name of the Vanguard fund, its abbreviation, and its account number. The statements from a few years ago had these otherwise identical references used in different places and I found that hard to follow. Also at that time, they didn't use the common stock symbols, so one had to keep a "magic" table at hand to translate between financial reports and the monthly statements.

So, any info on current format would be useful to me. Any comparison between the Fidelity statement format with Vanguard's would be a great help, since I'm currently familiar with the former.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Vanguard statements now have portrait orientation.

Postby mickeyd » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:01 pm

mickeyd wrote:I'm still on the old school mail-it-to-me version. It's one of the few things that I actually like to receive in the mail. I'll report back if there is any change in format when I get it next week.



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Re: Vanguard statements now have portrait orientation.

Postby linenfort » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:36 am

neurosphere, makes sense, thanks.
When I can adjust the font-size, like on a mobile device or kindle, I do like having a just a few words to a line for rapid reading, so I guess portrait is closer to that. (Narrow)
I guess with statements, I don't have a preference. I peruse them slowly and leisurely.
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Re: Vanguard statements now have portrait orientation.

Postby Epsilon Delta » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:47 pm

Portrait version received via USPS.

This is for an account that has exactly one fund in it.
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Re: Vanguard statements now have portrait orientation.

Postby Blues » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:55 pm

I just got several statements in the mail for three different accounts and all were still in landscape mode. :confused
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Re: Vanguard statements now have portrait orientation.

Postby nisiprius » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:44 pm

I just got mine.

Landscape orientation.

And TIPS are still listed with the "name" of the security as a very narrow column eight lines high, e.g.

U.S. TREASURY NOTE
INFLATION INDEX NOTE CPN 1.250% DUE 7/15/20
DTD 07/15/10 FC 01/15/11
Moody Rating AA
REMAIN BAL ######
March FACTOR 105552000
Est. annual income ##### Est yield 1.05%

It is my judgement that if these lines were simply concatenated, separated by commas, and word-wrapped--which I'm told it is possible for modren "data processing" equipment, as they call it, to do--that they would easily fit in three lines. (Even less if they didn't insist on making all of the dollar columns wide enough to allow for the possibility of my being a multi-billionaire).

An inch is wasted at the top with nothing but the Vanguard logo sitting in lonely splendor at the right end of a strip of pure white virgin paper.

Another inch and a half for a heading.

A grand total of two, count them two TIPS.

And then two inches of pure empty white space at the bottom.

Vanguard is sending me enough paper to supply a backyard privy... I believe they are passive-aggressively trying to shame me into going paperless. Oh-ho, want paper, does you? You want paper, you GET paper! Quires of paper! Reams of paper! Bundles and barrels and tierces and metric hogsheads of paper! Take THIS, Luddite! Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!
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