Any other suggestions on inflation protection?
Investor2 wrote:
clacy, I read the linked paper on REITs and other inflation hedges. It does get a bit complicated, but think I may add some REITs once I no longer have the investment property.
Investor2 wrote:Thanks for the very thoughtful responses.
I didn’t realized what a central role real estate plays in hedging against inflation, or that, as docneil88 notes, real estate accounts for 42% of the consumer price index (CPI).
I may already be more hedged against inflation than I realized. I have an interest in an investment property, which I usually ignore when thinking about asset allocation, but, if included, makes up about 1/3 of my total assets, with the remaining 2/3 in the usual stock and bond funds. (This property will be sold in a few years, and then I’ll have to think about the best way to continue to have some real estate exposure.)
Browser, you note Zvi Bodie’s view that we should have a secure floor for essential retirement expenses consisting of TIPS and I Bonds, i.e., a liability matching portfolio. I learned about this concept fairly recently from posts on Bogleheads, and it’s now central to my retirement planning.
My floor will consist of social security (delayed until age 70), a small pension with partial inflation adjustment, and some very conservative investments to cover the SS portion until age 70 (i.e., TSP G fund, all the I Bonds l can buy in the next few years, and possibly a small amount of TIPS – but I think I’ll wait for a more opportune time to buy the TIPS). Apart from this floor, the rest will probably be in a fairly stock heavy portfolio.
clacy, I read the linked paper on REITs and other inflation hedges. It does get a bit complicated, but think I may add some REITs once I no longer have the investment property.
larryswedroe wrote:Khh
That would give you a relatively short duration which provides a reasonable hedge against all but hyperinflation. Rates would likely rise but you'll lag by the average maturity.
Larry
umfundi wrote: Zvi Bodie is (I think) somewhat conservative and absolute. For a more balanced view (in my opinion) take a look at Michael Zwecher and Jim Otar. Christine Benz of Morningstar has some online videos of how these ideas might play out.
umfundi wrote:
And, let me add: TIPS etc. are perfect inflation protection for only the money you have in TIPS etc.
docneil88 wrote:In addition to PIMCO's short term TIPS index ETF (STPZ) with a 0.20% expense ratio, there is now a Vanguard short term TIPS index ETF (VTIP http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=vtip&ql=1 ) with a 0.10% expense ratio, and a Vanguard short term TIPS index mutual fund (VTIPX) with a 0.20% expense ratio. Here's Vanguard's summary of VTIPX: https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/ ... IntExt=INT . Here's
Investor2 wrote:An interesting development. As Vanguard is completely replacing the previous TIPS fund with the short term TIPS version in some of its Target Retirment Funds, I wonder if short term TIPS will soon be considered the new standard. Will be something to consider once I'm ready to buy TIPS.
Browser wrote:Short term TIPS have a much higher correlation to inflation than longer term TIPS. Longer term TIPS have a lot of "tracking error" relative to the CPI. Holding short TIPS would be particularly important to people who are in the spending stage and have current spending liabilities. When first issued TIPS had a decent real yield. But as they became better understood and utilized TIPS have morphed into an asset that is essentially little more than inflation insurance, and you are paying for that insurance with near zero or negative real yields. It seems doubtful that TIPS will ever have decent real yields again in the future, except for brief events such as 2008 when there was a liquidity squeeze. Since short term TIPS are better inflation insurance than long term TIPS, you are paying a higher "premium" for that insurance with larger negative yields. Unless you need that level of coverage, paying that extra premium seems somewhat foolish. You should match the duration of TIPS to your spending liabilities.
TIPS and other hedges against inflation
Browser wrote:Short term TIPS have a much higher correlation to inflation than longer term TIPS.
Browser wrote:Longer term TIPS have a lot of "tracking error" relative to the CPI.
Browser wrote:Holding short TIPS would be particularly important to people who are in the spending stage and have current spending liabilities.
Browser wrote:When first issued TIPS had a decent real yield. But as they became better understood and utilized TIPS have morphed into an asset that is essentially little more than inflation insurance, and you are paying for that insurance with near zero or negative real yields. It seems doubtful that TIPS will ever have decent real yields again in the future, except for brief events such as 2008 when there was a liquidity squeeze.
Browser wrote:Since short term TIPS are better inflation insurance than long term TIPS, you are paying a higher "premium" for that insurance with larger negative yields.
Browser wrote:Unless you need that level of coverage, paying that extra premium seems somewhat foolish.
Browser wrote:You should match the duration of TIPS to your spending liabilities.
While I think I get what you mean, TIPS are not designed to "track" CPI over short periods of time
So when we think back to the reasons for including inflation sensitive assets in a portfolio, there's a tradeoff between short-term TIPS and long-term TIPS. Short-term TIPS offer better inflation tracking properties.
The behavior of a single component of a portfolio is not important; the total return is.
There are really two ways an investor can address the risk of inflation when they're choosing investments and designing a strategic asset allocation. One avenue to take—and this is perhaps a more traditional approach—is to go about choosing assets that you expect to have a higher return, offer a higher risk premium than that inflation expectation over the long run.
The second way to address inflation in portfolio construction is where you choose assets that are highly correlated with inflation over a short time horizon. Now, TIPS fit this description quite nicely. They have an indexation mechanism where their principal is indexed to the Consumer Price Index. So, the principal rises and coupon payments rise with inflation over time. So, in some sense, they're the ideal asset for this kind of inflation-tracking strategy because their income is directly derived from movements in inflation.
Browser wrote:PJW - Take a look at this article from Vanguard. It is relevant to some of your points.
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/insights/article/inflation-TIPS-012013
PJW:While I think I get what you mean, TIPS are not designed to "track" CPI over short periods of time
Vanguard:So when we think back to the reasons for including inflation sensitive assets in a portfolio, there's a tradeoff between short-term TIPS and long-term TIPS. Short-term TIPS offer better inflation tracking properties.
PJW:The behavior of a single component of a portfolio is not important; the total return is.
Vanguard:There are really two ways an investor can address the risk of inflation when they're choosing investments and designing a strategic asset allocation. One avenue to take—and this is perhaps a more traditional approach—is to go about choosing assets that you expect to have a higher return, offer a higher risk premium than that inflation expectation over the long run.
The second way to address inflation in portfolio construction is where you choose assets that are highly correlated with inflation over a short time horizon. Now, TIPS fit this description quite nicely. They have an indexation mechanism where their principal is indexed to the Consumer Price Index. So, the principal rises and coupon payments rise with inflation over time. So, in some sense, they're the ideal asset for this kind of inflation-tracking strategy because their income is directly derived from movements in inflation.
PS Smart people say dumb things sometimes. That does not apply to me because I am not that smart about this stuff.
Browser wrote:PJW - Take a look at this article from Vanguard. It is relevant to some of your points.
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/insights/article/inflation-TIPS-012013
PJW:While I think I get what you mean, TIPS are not designed to "track" CPI over short periods of time
Vanguard:So when we think back to the reasons for including inflation sensitive assets in a portfolio, there's a tradeoff between short-term TIPS and long-term TIPS. Short-term TIPS offer better inflation tracking properties.
Browser wrote:Short term TIPS have a much higher correlation to inflation than longer term TIPS.
Phineas J. Whoopee wrote:They have a higher correlation to inflation year-to-year, but there's no reason to think they will be more (or less) correlated to long term inflation than longer-term TIPS. Of course funds roll their bonds, so short- or long-term, the inflation protection will be ongoing.
Browser wrote:PJW:The behavior of a single component of a portfolio is not important; the total return is.
Vanguard:There are really two ways an investor can address the risk of inflation when they're choosing investments and designing a strategic asset allocation. One avenue to take—and this is perhaps a more traditional approach—is to go about choosing assets that you expect to have a higher return, offer a higher risk premium than that inflation expectation over the long run.
The second way to address inflation in portfolio construction is where you choose assets that are highly correlated with inflation over a short time horizon. Now, TIPS fit this description quite nicely. They have an indexation mechanism where their principal is indexed to the Consumer Price Index. So, the principal rises and coupon payments rise with inflation over time. So, in some sense, they're the ideal asset for this kind of inflation-tracking strategy because their income is directly derived from movements in inflation.
Phineas J. Whoopee wrote:The behavior of a single component of a portfolio is not important; the total return is. For some investors' portfolios short-term TIPS can add desirable characteristics. For others', the reverse may be true.
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