Snowjob wrote:Are we going to do another one again next year? This is always a fun exercise
Norbert Schlenker wrote:Complete set of rules for 2013 ...My holiday schedule may result in a delay to the automation of posting of results but rest assured that I will get to it eventually.
- Pick a fancy name for your hedge fund. Show some creativity. A panel of esteemed judges will choose the best.
- Before 9 am EST on 2 Jan 2013, pick two stocks to go long and two to short. Equal dollar amounts are placed on each position.
- Stock only. No bonds, no options, no funds.
- No trades during the year, except that you can elect at any time during normal exchange business hours to "freeze" a price for any individual position at that day's closing price, i.e. liquidate that one position. Other than that, you're stuck with what you choose for the year.
- The universe from which to choose is either the S&P/TSX or the Russell 3000. No mix and match between the two groups, no exceptions.
- Starting prices are the 31 Dec 2012 close, ending prices will be the 31 Dec 2013 close. (Adjustments may be made to either in case of crazy spreads, at my sole discretion.)
- Winner of the name contest deemed to purchase long positions at 1% discount and sell short positions at 1% premium!
- Dividends won't count because ...
- It's all automated to make it easy on myself.
Post your picks in this thread.

Taylor Larimore wrote:Snowjob wrote:Are we going to do another one again next year? This is always a fun exercise
It is also an educational exercise:
Vanguard's Total Market Index Fund Admiral (VTSAX) currently has a Year-to-Date return of 15.70%. Only 7 hedge funds in the contest did better; 26 hedge funds did worse.
Past performance does not guarantee future performance.
Happy Holidays
Taylor
grok87 wrote:For example the vanguard market neutral fund uses the Citigroup 3 month tbill index as its benchmark
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/ ... IntExt=INT
2) compared to this benchmark, 18 funds beat the benchmark and 14 lagged
grok87 wrote:Taylor Larimore wrote:Snowjob wrote:Are we going to do another one again next year? This is always a fun exercise
It is also an educational exercise:
Vanguard's Total Market Index Fund Admiral (VTSAX) currently has a Year-to-Date return of 15.70%. Only 7 hedge funds in the contest did better; 26 hedge funds did worse.
Past performance does not guarantee future performance.
Happy Holidays
Taylor
Well there a couple of issues here:
1) the total stock market index is not really the best benchmark. The contest has you choose 2 long stock positions and 2 short stock positions. So it's trying to replicate a market neutral hedge fund. The best benchmark for that is tbills. For example the vanguard market neutral fund uses the Citigroup 3 month tbill index as its benchmark
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/ ... IntExt=INT
2) compared to this benchmark, 18 funds beat the benchmark and 14 lagged
3) however the contest ignores dividends and this may distort performance. I understand the idea is to keep things simple. But yahoo publishes prices adjusted for dividends so perhaps we could use those?
Cheers
"I am going to relax last year's restriction to S&P 500 companies to a broader index, the Russell 3000."
Taylor Larimore wrote:grok87 wrote:Taylor Larimore wrote:Snowjob wrote:Are we going to do another one again next year? This is always a fun exercise
It is also an educational exercise:
Vanguard's Total Market Index Fund Admiral (VTSAX) currently has a Year-to-Date return of 15.70%. Only 7 hedge funds in the contest did better; 26 hedge funds did worse.
Past performance does not guarantee future performance.
Happy Holidays
Taylor
Well there a couple of issues here:
1) the total stock market index is not really the best benchmark. The contest has you choose 2 long stock positions and 2 short stock positions. So it's trying to replicate a market neutral hedge fund. The best benchmark for that is tbills. For example the vanguard market neutral fund uses the Citigroup 3 month tbill index as its benchmark
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/ ... IntExt=INT
2) compared to this benchmark, 18 funds beat the benchmark and 14 lagged
3) however the contest ignores dividends and this may distort performance. I understand the idea is to keep things simple. But yahoo publishes prices adjusted for dividends so perhaps we could use those?
Cheers
Grok:
From the Hedge Fund Contest Registration:"I am going to relax last year's restriction to S&P 500 companies to a broader index, the Russell 3000."
The Russell 3000 Index measures the performance of the largest 3000 U.S. companies representing approximately 98% of the investable U.S. equity market. Accordingly, it seems to me that the Vanguard's Total Market Index Fund is a much better benchmark for this contest than "t-bills."
Happy Holidays.
Taylor
grok87 wrote:Taylor,
Happy holidays to you too!
How about using the vanguard market neutral fund as a benchmark?
ThAt's down 1% year to date. So again 18 contest participants would have beaten vanguard at the long/short stock picking game. The only problem is dividends and, I guess, expense ratio.
Cheers,

zaboomafoozarg wrote:grok87 wrote:For example the vanguard market neutral fund uses the Citigroup 3 month tbill index as its benchmark
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/ ... IntExt=INT
2) compared to this benchmark, 18 funds beat the benchmark and 14 lagged
Huh, that is an odd fund. "The fund may be appropriate for a small portion of an already well-diversified portfolio" - and has a minimum investment of $250k. OK, they must not be talking about my portfolio.
muddyglass wrote:grok87 wrote:Taylor,
Happy holidays to you too!
How about using the vanguard market neutral fund as a benchmark?
ThAt's down 1% year to date. So again 18 contest participants would have beaten vanguard at the long/short stock picking game. The only problem is dividends and, I guess, expense ratio.
Cheers,
maybe i'm missing something, but i thought market neutral funds try to long and short stuff in the same sector or which have very high correlation otherwise. our picks for long positions and short positions in this contest don't necessarily reflect that strategy. for example, some of us are trying to beat the market (to a bloody pulp) by longing the stuff we like and shorting the stuff we don't like, regardless of correlations.
grok87 wrote:muddyglass wrote:grok87 wrote:Taylor,
Happy holidays to you too!
How about using the vanguard market neutral fund as a benchmark?
ThAt's down 1% year to date. So again 18 contest participants would have beaten vanguard at the long/short stock picking game. The only problem is dividends and, I guess, expense ratio.
Cheers,
maybe i'm missing something, but i thought market neutral funds try to long and short stuff in the same sector or which have very high correlation otherwise. our picks for long positions and short positions in this contest don't necessarily reflect that strategy. for example, some of us are trying to beat the market (to a bloody pulp) by longing the stuff we like and shorting the stuff we don't like, regardless of correlations.
Interesting observation. Looks like you are correct about the vanguard market neutral fund. As per the latest report it does try to keep its sector positioning for longs and shorts pretty equal
https://personal.vanguard.com/funds/rep ... 2210063746
So what do you think the best benchmark is?
livesoft wrote:Fiscal Cliff Joy Fund
Long:
FIZZ
CALL
Short:
CLF
JOY
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