VEU or VXUS for 3-fund portfolio

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VEU or VXUS for 3-fund portfolio

Postby Day9 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:11 pm

Should I buy VEU (Vanguard FTSE All-World ex-US ETF) or VXUS (Vanguard Total Intl Stock Idx ETF ) for my 3-fund portfolio? I prefer ETFs. Thanks

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Re: VEU or VXUS for 3-fund portfolio

Postby FillorKill » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:13 pm

VXUS is generally considered the superior choice.

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Re: VEU or VXUS for 3-fund portfolio

Postby moneytobless » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:23 pm

I agree with BBL. But if you do this in a taxable account, VEU may be a good replacement fund if you tax-loss harvest.

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Re: VEU or VXUS for 3-fund portfolio

Postby harikaried » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:47 pm

VXUS: 6184 holdings, 0.16% expense ratio (international large/small + emerging)
VEU: 2313 holdings, 0.15% expense ratio (international large + emerging)

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Re: VEU or VXUS for 3-fund portfolio

Postby LazyNihilist » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:00 pm

If you have an opportunity to buy both, all other things being equal, VXUS is the better choice.
But sometimes you might get VEU commission free @ some brokerages like TD Ameritrade but not VXUS, then you have a case for VEU.

Looking at their performance on Google Finance, I can find very little difference between both of them.
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Re: VEU or VXUS for 3-fund portfolio

Postby Phineas J. Whoopee » Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:52 pm

I like VXUS better, because it includes small caps, but I own the mutual fund equivalent of VEU in taxable because of a terrific tax-loss harvesting opportunity I had last summer from the VXUS mutual fund equivalent.

Calculated as a percentage of my overall retirement portfolio that leaves me a little less than 1% under weight in international small caps, so the difference isn't enough to bother about.

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Re: VEU or VXUS for 3-fund portfolio

Postby FillorKill » Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:06 pm

Phineas J. Whoopee wrote:I like VXUS better, because it includes small caps, but I own the mutual fund equivalent of VEU in taxable because of a terrific tax-loss harvesting opportunity I had last summer from the VXUS mutual fund equivalent.

Calculated as a percentage of my overall retirement portfolio that leaves me a little less than 1% under weight in international small caps, so the difference isn't enough to bother about.

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Maybe we traded. :P I TLH'd at the close on June 1, 2012 from FTSE LG Admiral :arrow: TISM Admiral. Just so you know that TLH alone required 3 8949s - I managed to have ST losses with basis reported, without basis reported and some LT to boot. Maybe you got luckier the other way.

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Re: VEU or VXUS for 3-fund portfolio

Postby Phineas J. Whoopee » Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:20 am

BBL wrote:
Phineas J. Whoopee wrote:I like VXUS better, because it includes small caps, but I own the mutual fund equivalent of VEU in taxable because of a terrific tax-loss harvesting opportunity I had last summer from the VXUS mutual fund equivalent.

Calculated as a percentage of my overall retirement portfolio that leaves me a little less than 1% under weight in international small caps, so the difference isn't enough to bother about.

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Maybe we traded. :P I TLH'd at the close on June 1, 2012 from FTSE LG Admiral :arrow: TISM Admiral. Just so you know that TLH alone required 3 8949s - I managed to have ST losses with basis reported, without basis reported and some LT to boot. Maybe you got luckier the other way.

That's what happened alright. How are my old shares doing? Yours are just fine, in case you've been wondering about them. They were a little under the weather for a while, but all recovered now. :happy

8949s - well, it wasn't too bad for me this time around. The good thing is now all my taxable shares are covered.

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Re: VEU or VXUS for 3-fund portfolio

Postby FillorKill » Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:41 am

Phineas J. Whoopee wrote:That's what happened alright. How are my old shares doing? Yours are just fine, in case you've been wondering about them. They were a little under the weather for a while, but all recovered now. :happy

8949s - well, it wasn't too bad for me this time around. The good thing is now all my taxable shares are covered.

PJW


I'm glad to hear the old shares are doing well, yours are doing just fine too, thanks for asking :D they've grown nicely with a few minor growing pains along the way. I've provided a nice home but they know the deal: If they start acting up out they go, maybe we can trade back when the time comes :beer


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