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  Topic: Backtesting, Lump Sums, DCA
superlight

Replies: 12
Views: 582

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:28 pm   Subject: Backtesting, Lump Sums, DCA
would it be possible to include value averaging as a comparison?
I should. I've modeled it before with more limited data sets and it looked good. One problem with VA is that it has two choices buil ...
  Topic: Backtesting, Lump Sums, DCA
superlight

Replies: 12
Views: 582

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:04 am   Subject: Backtesting, Lump Sums, DCA
No I made a bunch of 100K investments which each lasted 10 years. Maybe the pseudo code would be:
For years 1991 to 1999
for months 1 to 12
start investment
calculated 10 year returns
...
  Topic: Backtesting, Lump Sums, DCA
superlight

Replies: 12
Views: 582

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:48 pm   Subject: Backtesting, Lump Sums, DCA
I've got a loop that varies LS or DCA period, stock vs bond allocation, and rebalancing frequency. My program seems to tell me that (in recent history) if you want to look for fewest losers, go with ...
  Topic: In theory, why wouldn't it be best to rebalance every day?
superlight

Replies: 53
Views: 2748

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:00 pm   Subject: In theory, why wouldn't it be best to rebalance every day?
According to my crazy simulations something like 30 months has been good, for the period since 1995. I don't mean to imply 30 is right, but that I'm coming up with longer numbers, as other have done.
  Topic: Backtesting, Lump Sums, DCA
superlight

Replies: 12
Views: 582

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:39 am   Subject: Backtesting, Lump Sums, DCA
I don't really believe in backtesting ... in a way I'm doing it to test my disbelief, to see what it can show me, if anything.
  Topic: Dollar Cost Averaging! Where did we go wrong?
superlight

Replies: 31
Views: 4194

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:42 am   Subject: Dollar Cost Averaging! Where did we go wrong?
What's my point? My point is that lump sum now, or DCA over time matters a whole lot depending on how long the time horizon is.

None of us ever knows the future. All market moments are not the same ...
  Topic: Dollar Cost Averaging! Where did we go wrong?
superlight

Replies: 31
Views: 4194

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:38 am   Subject: Dollar Cost Averaging! Where did we go wrong?

I'd say DCA (and importantly Value Averaging, VA) represent a step away from Boglehead orthodoxy, but not really too far. If you believe in buy and hold and index investing, but worry that not all ...
  Topic: Backtesting, Lump Sums, DCA
superlight

Replies: 12
Views: 582

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:51 am   Subject: Backtesting, Lump Sums, DCA
Oh, the reason for this post with maybe-obvious data, is that it is just really striking to me how much the market has changed since 1995.

.. and how entry point matters more than method.
  Topic: Backtesting, Lump Sums, DCA
superlight

Replies: 12
Views: 582

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:47 am   Subject: Backtesting, Lump Sums, DCA
So I finally got some data together. I'm java programmer, so I used netbeans and mysql on ubuntu. I pulled SP500 numbers from shiller's spreadsheet and historic (monthly) prices on a few vanguard fu ...
  Topic: Frontline program on credt cards
superlight

Replies: 28
Views: 1650

PostForum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)   Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:28 am   Subject: Frontline program on credt cards
So they have techniques to get consumers to take on more debt, aren't they just like any other company who try to get customers to buy more of their product? I don't understand the immoral behavior h ...
  Topic: Computer: Whats a good home page besides MSN?
superlight

Replies: 54
Views: 3058

PostForum: Lounge - Consumer, Leisure, and General Interest   Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:58 am   Subject: Computer: Whats a good home page besides MSN?
BTW, Google Docs spreadsheets work pretty good for portfolio tracking. Another reason to use the iGoogle / Google Reader / Google Docs set ... single login. I actually use a "scratch account&qu ...
  Topic: Computer: Whats a good home page besides MSN?
superlight

Replies: 54
Views: 3058

PostForum: Lounge - Consumer, Leisure, and General Interest   Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:48 am   Subject: Computer: Whats a good home page besides MSN?
I use iGoogle, largely because I use GoogleReader (48 feeds, pretty crazy), but I can have a couple boxes there for SP500 and a few Vanguard bond funds.
  Topic: Bubble (the word) is being misused
superlight

Replies: 18
Views: 941

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:20 am   Subject: Bubble (the word) is being misused
This thing I'm thinking about, large population effects, might be related to Cumulative Advantage or what is amusingly called the Justin Timberlake Effect:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/15/magazin ...
  Topic: Bubble (the word) is being misused
superlight

Replies: 18
Views: 941

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:59 am   Subject: Bubble (the word) is being misused
I think there is something going on with three big numbers:

- human population
- global gdp
- global savings rate

Those generate trillions in investment, and I think it is a little more possib ...
  Topic: How do you define "inflation?"
superlight

Replies: 2
Views: 358

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:00 pm   Subject: How do you define "inflation?"
The answer is easy on the surface, the important "inflation" is change in dollar-price of my future purchases. That will vary, depending on whether I plan on buying a house, or to use a sma ...
  Topic: Some Dramatic Changes Coming in 10-year Performance Records
superlight

Replies: 26
Views: 2897

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:20 am   Subject: Some Dramatic Changes Coming in 10-year Performance Records
Note that the problem with many stock market measures is that they collapse information to a single number. That might be reducing the information too far.

I've just started the book "Does me ...
  Topic: Some Dramatic Changes Coming in 10-year Performance Records
superlight

Replies: 26
Views: 2897

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:17 am   Subject: Some Dramatic Changes Coming in 10-year Performance Records
How about a distribution (bar graph) of 10 year returns?

(Yes, I know that using every 1 year starting point produces results which are interrelated, but it also gives me a picture of how the same ...
  Topic: Hard Problems, Nash Equilibrium
superlight

Replies: 2
Views: 360

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:09 am   Subject: Hard Problems, Nash Equilibrium
It will be interesting to see what follow-on research shows, and how it applies say to investors' daily processing of X gigabytes of financial "news."
  Topic: Hard Problems, Nash Equilibrium
superlight

Replies: 2
Views: 360

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:40 am   Subject: Hard Problems, Nash Equilibrium
I found this interesting, and related to market expectations:
Computer scientists have spent decades developing techniques for answering a single question: How long does a given calculation take to p ...
  Topic: Laptop computer advice
superlight

Replies: 133
Views: 7555

PostForum: Lounge - Consumer, Leisure, and General Interest   Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:06 pm   Subject: Laptop computer advice
Really weird. For the time being Dell seems to be using Win7 as an up-sell on that model. I might wait them out.
  Topic: Laptop computer advice
superlight

Replies: 133
Views: 7555

PostForum: Lounge - Consumer, Leisure, and General Interest   Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:04 pm   Subject: Laptop computer advice
My meta-advice is to watch the site called www.techbargains.com for a month, and you'll be an expert.

If I were shopping right now, I might see if I could be happy with this (from that site), IF I ...
  Topic: Buying a car in cash?
superlight

Replies: 28
Views: 2441

PostForum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)   Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:01 pm   Subject: Buying a car in cash?
If you are a AAA member, call the AAA office and ask for a telephone number for the manufacturer's local fleet agent. The AAA price you get that way will be a lower starting point than "man off ...
  Topic: Move to Denmark - Be Happy!
superlight

Replies: 57
Views: 3589

PostForum: Lounge - Consumer, Leisure, and General Interest   Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:33 am   Subject: Move to Denmark - Be Happy!
Suicide probably depends on a few things (the unhappy "tail" of the distribution, and social mores about self-injury), but I'd guess it doesn't actually depend on the mean happiness.

A sa ...
  Topic: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
superlight

Replies: 46
Views: 2792

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:00 am   Subject: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
Think of a distribution of errors. Unpredictable economic outcomes generate price changes. The distribution is around a mean—the expected return that people require to hold stocks. Now that distribu ...
  Topic: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
superlight

Replies: 46
Views: 2792

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:43 pm   Subject: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
Markets which "overreact and underreact but only in a random manner" would not mean-revert. I think they do.
  Topic: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
superlight

Replies: 46
Views: 2792

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:44 am   Subject: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
BTW, we can throw things like Hyman Minsky's Financial Instability Hypothesis into the mix.
  Topic: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
superlight

Replies: 46
Views: 2792

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:39 am   Subject: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
You guys are absolutely correct. I cannot favor Keynes, only use him as a foil, as an example.

What this is really about is theory agnosticism. We can observe that markets are difficult-to-imposs ...
  Topic: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
superlight

Replies: 46
Views: 2792

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:24 pm   Subject: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
The causality is based on traders evaluating stocks with the available information and making offers to sell and buy. These trades determine the price. The traders have a motivation to use the avail ...
  Topic: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
superlight

Replies: 46
Views: 2792

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:57 pm   Subject: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
Love the analogy. Likewise, think of EMH as a theory similar to "There is no God". You may not be able to prove the theory in a direct manner (you cannot conclusively observe that God does ...
  Topic: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
superlight

Replies: 46
Views: 2792

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:14 pm   Subject: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
Right hafis50, I might have just rediscovered the "dual hypothesis problem."
  Topic: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
superlight

Replies: 46
Views: 2792

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:42 pm   Subject: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
Not "aliens don't visit because they all exhausted their energy resources(*)"?

I've heard that one, it offers a hypothesis for observed behavior with unprovable causality. Aliens don't v ...
  Topic: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
superlight

Replies: 46
Views: 2792

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:11 pm   Subject: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
Thanks Rod, I skimmed your interesting paper. It looks like q-believers were penalized in the last long rally because overvaluations continued for so long. Perhaps it's an example of Keynes' market ...
  Topic: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
superlight

Replies: 46
Views: 2792

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:04 pm   Subject: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
Could you explain how the EMH and the EMMH (the Efficient Market Myth Hypothesis) represent two different paths that both lead to the same conclusion, the conclusion that investors should invest as if ...
  Topic: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
superlight

Replies: 46
Views: 2792

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:37 am   Subject: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
Perhaps now he has all his money in his funds?

He may not recommend that his clients have "all" their money in his funds either.
  Topic: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
superlight

Replies: 46
Views: 2792

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:24 am   Subject: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
Unless I am mistaken, the mutual funds that Thaler and his colleagues run have underperformed the market. Lots of people "think" securities are mispriced. We are still waiting for people t ...
  Topic: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
superlight

Replies: 46
Views: 2792

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:25 am   Subject: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
I do have Regnault somewhere in the back of my mind. Someone, perhaps you, mentioned him here before. He might also have been mentioned in Fox's book, though his history is very US-centric.

For m ...
  Topic: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
superlight

Replies: 46
Views: 2792

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:47 pm   Subject: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
If they tend to do better than the "market" it would challenge EMH.

I may be stating the obvious ... but I've got 5 minutes and a computer keyboard:

This is true. Successful predictio ...
  Topic: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
superlight

Replies: 46
Views: 2792

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:27 pm   Subject: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
BTW, I finished Fox's book, skimming the last couple chapters. It was good, but a bit of a drudge, just because it was such a thorough history of theories and models and their authors.

From my rea ...
  Topic: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
superlight

Replies: 46
Views: 2792

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:18 pm   Subject: Fama responds to Fox's "Myth of the Rational Market&quo
It wouldn't surprise me if most professional managers were conflicted, using VaR models based on random walk models based on efficient market models, while at the same time not believing in efficient ...
  Topic: Dollar Cost Averaging! Where did we go wrong?
superlight

Replies: 31
Views: 4194

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:32 am   Subject: Dollar Cost Averaging! Where did we go wrong?
Raddle, I think some people say "time the market" and others say "valuations matter." They talk past each other, to some degree.
  Topic: The biggest risk in investing is doing nothing …
superlight

Replies: 14
Views: 1808

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:13 am   Subject: The biggest risk in investing is doing nothing …
I was just reading that the year-over-year CPI is still negative. That takes some sting off money market interest rates.
  Topic: behavioral economics and Bogleheads philosophy?
superlight

Replies: 32
Views: 1689

PostForum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments   Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:59 pm   Subject: behavioral economics and Bogleheads philosophy?
Please, do not keep us in suspense. What are the highlights as you recall?

For me it was the linkage between bubbles and "looting." Shiller might actually be on the same page as Bogle th ...
  Topic: behavioral economics and Bogleheads philosophy?
superlight

Replies: 32
Views: 1689

PostForum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments   Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:58 pm   Subject: behavioral economics and Bogleheads philosophy?
At times, Animal Spirits is an uncomfortable read. But you know, sometimes that's good mental exercise. I have to admit that some of those stories that make me uncomfortable are factually correct, e ...
  Topic: behavioral economics and Bogleheads philosophy?
superlight

Replies: 32
Views: 1689

PostForum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments   Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:16 pm   Subject: behavioral economics and Bogleheads philosophy?
I'm reading Akerlof & Shiller's Animal Spirits right now. My quick comment would be that it's quite compatible with buy and hold index investing. I read Zweig Your Money and Your Brain, and foun ...
  Topic: What Income Replacement Rates Should Households Use?
superlight

Replies: 20
Views: 1188

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:08 am   Subject: What Income Replacement Rates Should Households Use?
Thank you for that explanation. That is pretty much what I understood. I certainly wasn't trying to favor a more monolithic rule of thumb (70%) over this study.

We agree that mileage can vary ... ...
  Topic: What Income Replacement Rates Should Households Use?
superlight

Replies: 20
Views: 1188

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:11 am   Subject: What Income Replacement Rates Should Households Use?
"We assume a household derives utility U(c) from period-by-period consumption in equivalent units"

Well there you go, park-walker is always getting less utility than a golfer, no matter w ...
  Topic: What Income Replacement Rates Should Households Use?
superlight

Replies: 20
Views: 1188

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:04 am   Subject: Re: How the household data were used in the paper
superlight wrote.I expect that this paper is discovering more of the unlucky ... This paper wasn't doing that. This paper used a lifecycle model to analyze the best data set in the world of household ...
  Topic: What Income Replacement Rates Should Households Use?
superlight

Replies: 20
Views: 1188

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:53 am   Subject: What Income Replacement Rates Should Households Use?
There are two ways to get to a less than 65% replacement rate: planning or circumstance.

If you are lucky, you did it by planning, keeping a simple lifestyle and high savings rate. It's easy then ...
  Topic: Dollar Cost Averaging! Where did we go wrong?
superlight

Replies: 31
Views: 4194

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:11 am   Subject: Dollar Cost Averaging! Where did we go wrong?
The secret to this discussion is to know how it ties to Boglehead philosophy. A true Boglehead believes that all moments in the market are equal, and so at any point a lump sum investment has the sam ...
  Topic: Does dollar cost averaging really improve returns?
superlight

Replies: 53
Views: 3359

PostForum: Investing - Theory, News & General   Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:45 pm   Subject: Does dollar cost averaging really improve returns?
Shorter: Be aware that "always lump sum" is bound to EMH.

Not sure about that. I'd say that "always lump sum" is bound to the target portfolio having an expected return greater ...
 
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