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Re: The trickiest question?

Why lock yourself in to the minimum, when the upside is so much more likely (expected) than the downside? Pascal's Wager. Even if the downside risk is small, the consequences should that risk show up are huge. It's the risk of "blowing up" and losing so much of your stake that you can nev...
by umfundi
Thu May 23, 2013 11:07 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: The trickiest question?
Replies: 34
Views: 2826

Re: 63yo moved 401k to 100% cash, how/when to restore AA?

I am curious as to what his AA was before he bailed and what he wants it to be now. Got all the info!! Last December, when he transitioned his entire 401k to the 3.5% SV fund, he was 100% in stocks: Large Cap index, Small Cap index, plus some Foreign, both Developed and Emerging Mkts. No bonds at a...
by umfundi
Thu May 23, 2013 10:44 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: 63yo moved 401k to 100% cash, how/when to restore AA?
Replies: 32
Views: 2825

Re: The trickiest question?

There is a lot of advertising saying you may live a long time in retirement, 30 years or more. So, you need to keep your money invested in stocks for growth and inflation protection. If it were up to me, the SEC would ban that as false advertising. Bear in mind, no matter how many people tell you t...
by umfundi
Sun May 19, 2013 4:54 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: The trickiest question?
Replies: 34
Views: 2826

Re: Inverse DCA vs. Lump Sum

Victoria, You should resist the urge to tinker and tamper with your portfolio and IPS. Let me suggest Sudoku. The mathematics is interesting, the puzzles are fun, and the complexity is up to you. Or, genealogy. A potentially infinite jigsaw puzzle. I indulge in both. The idea that you should DCA out...
by umfundi
Sun May 19, 2013 4:41 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Inverse DCA vs. Lump Sum
Replies: 23
Views: 1217

Re: Questions about Vanguard Advisor & Large Index Fund Purc

Shilo, I would call Vanguard and ask for a different advisor. You should also ask if you should have a different person to handle the mechanics of your accounts: Transfers and other transactions. That is something they provide at no cost. We recently had a similar situation, transferring large accou...
by umfundi
Sun May 19, 2013 3:21 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Questions about Vanguard Advisor & Large Index Fund Purchase
Replies: 2
Views: 238

Re: The trickiest question?

Why lock yourself in to the minimum, when the upside is so much more likely (expected) than the downside? I'm curious, what makes you think so much more likely? I believe the real return from a mix of equities and bonds (say, 60/40) is much more likely to exceed the real return of something like TI...
by umfundi
Sun May 19, 2013 2:05 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: The trickiest question?
Replies: 34
Views: 2826

Re: $550M Powerball Jackpot - take cash or annuity?

If you do buy a ticket, you have a 100,000,000:1 or so probability of not having that $2 on Sunday morning. That's not true. Overall odds of winning a prize are 1:31.8464 Minimum prize is $4. It's still gambling with an expected return lower than the purchase price, but your odds of having $2 on Su...
by umfundi
Sat May 18, 2013 6:49 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: $600M Powerball Jackpot - take cash or annuity?
Replies: 86
Views: 4503

Re: The trickiest question?

To expand on my question: Here is Zvi Bodie addressing a group of Boston U employees, who mostly have not saved sufficiently to retire by age 65, or ever. Bodie frames his premise within the first two minutes, but the entire hour is well worth watching, I think. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj0oGw...
by umfundi
Sat May 18, 2013 5:46 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: The trickiest question?
Replies: 34
Views: 2826

Re: The trickiest question?

Your retirement investments have two basic goals, growth of principle and preservation of principle. For those who are spending their carefully accumulated portfolio there is another, primary, goal: INCOME. Those other two are also important, but they are meaningless if income does not meet needs. ...
by umfundi
Sat May 18, 2013 5:37 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: The trickiest question?
Replies: 34
Views: 2826

Re: The trickiest question?

The question is, should you ensure a dismal outcome, or take a course that likely has a better outcome but which does have a small but finite chance of a disastrous outcome? That reasoning can be used to justify playing the lottery. And "having to reset goals" may not the same thing as &q...
by umfundi
Sat May 18, 2013 4:08 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: The trickiest question?
Replies: 34
Views: 2826

Re: Retiring Wall Street Exec Gives Investment Advice

Filed under: "Deathbed confessions".

Keith
by umfundi
Sat May 18, 2013 3:22 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Retiring Wall Street Exec Gives Investment Advice
Replies: 4
Views: 801

Re: The trickiest question?

I completely agree, Keith. This seems to be one of the biggest issues that divides Bogleheads into two camps. For the General Public, who saves maybe 10% of income, this may be reasonable advice. For Bogleheads who save 30% (or more?) of income, it's less reasonable. Slight tweaks to your AA as you...
by umfundi
Sat May 18, 2013 2:24 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: The trickiest question?
Replies: 34
Views: 2826

Re: $600M Powerball Jackpot - take cash or annuity?

If you don't buy a ticket, you have a 100% probability of having $2 on Sunday morning. If you do buy a ticket, you have a 100,000,000:1 or so probability of not having that $2 on Sunday morning. Keith The odds of having the $2 on Sunday are significantly better than that. Per the Powerball website,...
by umfundi
Sat May 18, 2013 7:35 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: $600M Powerball Jackpot - take cash or annuity?
Replies: 86
Views: 4503

Re: Who is the next Jack Bogle?

I guess if you would ask who is the next Jack Bogle, you might have to accept that Jack Bogle was possibly the next to someone else.

I think that all great men stand on the shoulders of giants, not in their shadows.

That said, I nominate Gus Sauter.

Keith
by umfundi
Fri May 17, 2013 11:38 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Who is the next Jack Bogle?
Replies: 7
Views: 1091

Re: $550M Powerball Jackpot - take cash or annuity?

someone should calculate the chance of winning if you don't buy a ticket. it isn't zero. It's infinite. People are getting a little too giddy on the lines at the store - saw one feller tonight (not me) drop a cool Benjamin on it, then proceed to tell the store clerk he was buying more when he got h...
by umfundi
Fri May 17, 2013 11:28 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: $600M Powerball Jackpot - take cash or annuity?
Replies: 86
Views: 4503

The trickiest question?

Jane Bryant Quinn says: (http://www.aarp.org/money/budgeting-saving/info-05-2013/safest-investment-path-for-retirement.html) But by the time you reach an older age and your paycheck stops, you need reliable sources of income to pay your bills. This transition from aggressive to conservative investin...
by umfundi
Fri May 17, 2013 11:17 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: The trickiest question?
Replies: 34
Views: 2826

Re: $600M Powerball Jackpot - take cash or annuity?

As the old joke might start:

Will you sleep with me for $600M? If so, ...

Keith
by umfundi
Fri May 17, 2013 10:27 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: $600M Powerball Jackpot - take cash or annuity?
Replies: 86
Views: 4503

Re: $550M Powerball Jackpot - take cash or annuity?

I took the cash. The $2 is in my pocket.

I bet I'll have more than you will (in the Powerball account) on Sunday morning.

Keith
by umfundi
Fri May 17, 2013 2:46 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: $600M Powerball Jackpot - take cash or annuity?
Replies: 86
Views: 4503

Re: 63yo moved 401k to 100% cash, how/when to restore AA?

May I pile on? Teach him how to fish. Stay out of advising him what to do now. At best, you might say that he realizes he made a mistake. If he had stayed the course he would now be fully invested. So, the logical thing to do is ...? The behavioral thing needs to be addressed. Mistake 1 was selling....
by umfundi
Fri May 17, 2013 2:41 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: 63yo moved 401k to 100% cash, how/when to restore AA?
Replies: 32
Views: 2825

Re: Quick question about withdrawing retirement assets

This is a question I’m curious about. Let’s say for instance you invested 50% in the Total Stock Market index Fund and 50% in the Total Bond Index fund in your 401K or IRA your entire working life. You readjusted your asset allocation every year on your birthday to keep the 50/50 allocation. Now it...
by umfundi
Thu May 16, 2013 5:49 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Quick question about withdrawing retirement assets
Replies: 13
Views: 1335

Re: Financial advisors pep talk

If the estate and trust lawyer brings up managing our investments, he may well end up being fired. If that happens, why not ask the lawyer about his estate planning and his investments? He may need advice from you. Actually, we had a good chat. He is a Rick Ferri fan, and uses the Core Four. Keith
by umfundi
Thu May 16, 2013 4:50 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Financial advisors pep talk
Replies: 17
Views: 1776

Re: rebalancing

I am in a balanced fund so really don't have to worry about rebalancing. When the market tanks as it did in 2008, those who are in individual stock and bond funds and maintain their AA actually seem to have an advantage because they can buy more of the decreasing asset and sell more of the increasi...
by umfundi
Thu May 16, 2013 1:00 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: rebalancing
Replies: 6
Views: 289

Re: Playing fantasy portfolio, Boglehead style (foreign coun

A silly stock-picking contest named "La Bolsa Millonaria" http://www.bolsamillonaria.com.co was organized by my native country's stock market body; 2000 teams of finance students, under a faculty advisor, were playing it. Of course a Boglehead strategy can't be tested in three weeks, but ...
by umfundi
Thu May 16, 2013 2:25 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Playing fantasy portfolio, Boglehead style (foreign country)
Replies: 1
Views: 158

Re: The new profitability factor, US and int'l evidence

I didn't mean to derail the thread or propose a DFA vs Vanguard contest. My point was that I think it's hard to argue that there's not significantly different risk/return profiles happening in different corners of the market. And if so, why couldn't that differentiation be refined with further stud...
by umfundi
Wed May 15, 2013 7:26 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: The new profitability factor, US and int'l evidence
Replies: 167
Views: 7363

Re: The new profitability factor, US and int'l evidence

OverTheHill, Wondering what do you make of this [nonsense --admin LadyGeek] ?... DFA Small Value (DFSVX), since inception (1993): Growth of 10K -> $103,681 Vanguard Total Stock (VTSMX), same period: Growth of 10K -> $55,228 Really? Here's what Yahoo Finance shows: http://chart.finance.yahoo.com/z?s...
by umfundi
Wed May 15, 2013 7:05 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: The new profitability factor, US and int'l evidence
Replies: 167
Views: 7363

Re: The new profitability factor, US and int'l evidence

Jebediah wrote:OverTheHill,

Wondering what do you make of this [nonsense --admin LadyGeek]?...

DFA Small Value (DFSVX), since inception (1993): Growth of 10K -> $103,681

Vanguard Total Stock (VTSMX), same period: Growth of 10K -> $55,228

Let me make a wild guess: DFSVX is riskier than VTSMX?

Keith
by umfundi
Wed May 15, 2013 4:40 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: The new profitability factor, US and int'l evidence
Replies: 167
Views: 7363

Re: The new profitability factor, US and int'l evidence

The "secret sauce" analogy is good. Choose one: 1. There is no secret sauce 2. There is a secret sauce, but we have 90% of the ingredients - good enough 3. Only Warren Buffet knows the other 10% of the ingredients 4. We figured out the other 10%, but the recipe is too complicated to make a...
by umfundi
Wed May 15, 2013 1:51 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: The new profitability factor, US and int'l evidence
Replies: 167
Views: 7363

Re: Financial advisors pep talk

If the estate and trust lawyer brings up managing our investments, he may well end up being fired. If that happens, why not ask the lawyer about his estate planning and his investments? He may need advice from you. We'll see. In order to do this I had to tell him my net worth. I suppose a 1% AUM of...
by umfundi
Wed May 15, 2013 11:33 am
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Financial advisors pep talk
Replies: 17
Views: 1776

Re: Financial advisors pep talk

We met at my office to discuss about my disability insurance. Investing and whole life insurance are typical side topic that always seem to come up. Yes, gird your loins! I expect the same thing when we meet tomorrow with our estate planning lawyer to bring our trust up to date. The choices we made...
by umfundi
Wed May 15, 2013 2:16 am
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Financial advisors pep talk
Replies: 17
Views: 1776

Re: Financial advisors pep talk

ruralavalon wrote:Nonsense, its all (except gold) included


Is GLD (the ETF) not included?

Keith
by umfundi
Tue May 14, 2013 7:34 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Financial advisors pep talk
Replies: 17
Views: 1776

Re: Financial advisors pep talk

Today I saw a financial advisor for the first time since I became a boglehead just 6 months ago. Before that, I had met with a few of them. As I was listening to his pep talk, I was amazed at the nonsense he was saying. I mean, what he was saying sounded awfully familiar because I had heard the sam...
by umfundi
Tue May 14, 2013 6:45 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Financial advisors pep talk
Replies: 17
Views: 1776

Re: Just Sold Out. What do you think?

Thank you all for your responses! Looks to me like this little adventure cost you 1.5% over three trading days. You're making a pretty good case that you should hire an AUM manager. He'd only cost 1% for a whole year! Or: Remind me again why you use low-cost funds? :P Seriously, it's small mistakes...
by umfundi
Tue May 14, 2013 6:16 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Just Sold Out. What do you think?
Replies: 95
Views: 6933

Re: Buying equities during retirement

A couple of comments. First, since retirement involves drawing down, rebalancing can be aided by pulling out funds from the most tax efficient accounts, subject to minimal withdrawals. Except, as pointed out by Nick (Norton750) above, if you are to do such selective withdrawals you should not have ...
by umfundi
Tue May 14, 2013 1:33 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Buying equities during retirement
Replies: 31
Views: 1690

Re: Lead and Antimony Medal Awards for lousy charts

I'd love to see a three-dimensional dynamically rotatable presentation of all the stocks listed on the New York Stock Exchange, plotted according to their Fama-French factor loadings. Well, let's see. Something like Ensight http://www.ceisoftware.com/ensight10/what-is-ensight/ can plot 3D data, ani...
by umfundi
Mon May 13, 2013 7:01 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Lead and Antimony Medal Awards for lousy charts
Replies: 40
Views: 2000

Re: Lead and Antimony Medal Awards for lousy charts

Any more comments on charts (vs. material properties and applications)? Well, Yes. Let's start with the observation that all financial charts are lousy. Does anyone have nominations for any good ones? Engineering and simulation (particularly fluid dynamics) have long been at the forefront of visual...
by umfundi
Mon May 13, 2013 5:25 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Lead and Antimony Medal Awards for lousy charts
Replies: 40
Views: 2000

Re: Past Performance

Please see "Scientific Method". Wikipedia is as good a source as any. Form a hypothesis or a theory. Get data to test the theory. If the data validates the theory, good. Example: Low cost passive index funds have better returns for investors than high cost active non-index funds. If the th...
by umfundi
Mon May 13, 2013 1:25 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Past Performance
Replies: 60
Views: 2231

Re: why a 7% return estimate going forward

That's what I've decided to do. Downsize my dreams, try to save 50% or more of my income for the next 20+ years while I'm working, and hope that it's enough. If things turn out better than expected then I guess it'll be a nice surprise. I think that's a little out of balance. As a rule of thumb, 1%...
by umfundi
Mon May 13, 2013 10:41 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: why a 7% return estimate going forward
Replies: 55
Views: 5472

Re: Buying equities during retirement

Keith, I am recently retired and am looking to simplify my AA. I am attracted to the simplicity of your AA approach - but I am uncomfortable with one aspect of it. By choosing a Life Strategy fund you have linked your equity and bond holdings. This is good for simplicity and automatic rebalancing. ...
by umfundi
Mon May 13, 2013 10:20 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Buying equities during retirement
Replies: 31
Views: 1690

Re: Past Performance

I am a latecomer to this thread. I invest in Total Market funds because I believe they are on the efficient frontier, not because of past performance. In a similar vein, I do not indulge in any kind of market timing, and pay no heed to momentum or reversion to the mean. By investing in Vanguard Life...
by umfundi
Sun May 12, 2013 5:24 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Past Performance
Replies: 60
Views: 2231

Re: why a 7% return estimate going forward

That's what I've decided to do. Downsize my dreams, try to save 50% or more of my income for the next 20+ years while I'm working, and hope that it's enough. If things turn out better than expected then I guess it'll be a nice surprise. I think that's a little out of balance. As a rule of thumb, 1%...
by umfundi
Sun May 12, 2013 9:24 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: why a 7% return estimate going forward
Replies: 55
Views: 5472

Re: Jane Bryant Quinn: Choosing the Safest Path

Isn't telling young people to load up on equities the exact opposite of what Bodie would recommend? Seems like a major conflict within this little article. From the article: When you're young, you can't be too aggressive when buying mutual funds that invest in stocks. I think this is Jane Bryant Qu...
by umfundi
Sun May 12, 2013 1:24 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Jane Bryant Quinn: Choosing the Safest Path
Replies: 5
Views: 1310

Jane Bryant Quinn: Choosing the Safest Path

In the AARP Bulletin, a distillation of advice from Bodie, Pfau, and Bernstein:

http://www.aarp.org/money/budgeting-sav ... ement.html

Keith
by umfundi
Sat May 11, 2013 11:19 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Jane Bryant Quinn: Choosing the Safest Path
Replies: 5
Views: 1310

Re: why a 7% return estimate going forward

TomatoTomahto wrote:Pascal's Wager

Not.

We have thrashed this one before. Pascal's Wager is not useful in making financial decisions, for the probabilities are not simply one or zero.

See: JD Williams, "The Compleat Strategyst".

Keith
by umfundi
Sat May 11, 2013 5:49 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: why a 7% return estimate going forward
Replies: 55
Views: 5472

Re: Buying equities during retirement

Keith, What happens if the market stays low for more than 6 years, which it is quite capable of doing? ... The variable part of our portfolio is above our "floor", the essential income we need to live. I think it is very unlikely the market will go south and stay there for more than a few...
by umfundi
Sat May 11, 2013 5:00 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Buying equities during retirement
Replies: 31
Views: 1690

Re: Buying equities during retirement

I have elevated mental accounting to be a science: Six years 6/30 = 1/5 = 20% of our assets are in high quality short term bond funds. The rest is in Vanguard LifeStrategy Moderate, which is rebalanced to 60/40 every day. The effective portfolio is about 50/50. Wife is 60, I am 62. I don't care if e...
by umfundi
Sat May 11, 2013 2:35 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Buying equities during retirement
Replies: 31
Views: 1690

Re: Lead and Antimony Medal Awards for lousy charts

Leaded glass windows? A good use for lead.

Again, I am drawn to Edward Tufte's books, including "The Visual Display of Quantitative Information". Classics.

Which brings to mind Peter Norvig's classic on the Gettysburg Address in Powerpoint.

http://norvig.com/Gettysburg/

Keith
by umfundi
Sat May 11, 2013 2:19 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Lead and Antimony Medal Awards for lousy charts
Replies: 40
Views: 2000

Re: why a 7% return estimate going forward

Mr. Bogle and others have suggested 7% may be an optimistic number when making decisions regarding the markets future and its relationship to saving, investing, etc. IOW, will have to save much more and expect much less over the rest of my working career. Is that 7% primarily a function of dividend...
by umfundi
Sat May 11, 2013 2:05 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: why a 7% return estimate going forward
Replies: 55
Views: 5472

Re: 529 plan in Texas?

Go here

https://personal.vanguard.com/us/whatwe ... e/finda529

and click on Texas on the map.

Keith
by umfundi
Sat May 11, 2013 1:57 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: 529 plan in Texas?
Replies: 9
Views: 391

Re: Market "melt up" and the Airplane Game

I would never hang my hat on one indicator, and one thought would be that margin is higher due to the very low interest rate environment we are in. My cab driver Ben told me not to worry about it, for it is a paradigm shift and we are at a new permanently higher plateau of margin use. RM :D Ben has...
by umfundi
Fri May 10, 2013 11:08 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Market "melt up" and the Airplane Game
Replies: 65
Views: 5120
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