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Re: What age did you reach 100K networth?

I think this poll would be more interesting if people posted their household income at the time their household net worth, including their home, hit $100k. Are bogleheads great savers or do they just have above average incomes? It would be interesting if people included how much of that could be at...
by market timer
Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:18 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: What age did you reach 100K networth?
Replies: 151
Views: 9331

Re: What age did you reach 100K networth?

Reading this forum is just crazy to see how self-selective the audience is. The median American family has a total net worth of $77K http://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/bulletin/2012/pdf/scf12.pdf (Page 17) I'm reading and the average Boglehead had a net worth of $100K by age 29? Hilarious. The medi...
by market timer
Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:25 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: What age did you reach 100K networth?
Replies: 151
Views: 9331

Re: Prepay mortgage, pay down HELOC, refinance, or invest?

Assuming they're already maxing out 401K plans, I'd suggest paying down the HELOC.
by market timer
Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:20 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Prepay mortgage, pay down HELOC, refinance, or invest?
Replies: 7
Views: 444

Re: Guy who lived in van while in grad school...

I lived in my grad school office for a week between leases. The worst parts: (1) sleeping on the floor when there were rats/mice in the building; (2) lights would automatically come on at like 6am.
by market timer
Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:39 am
 
Forum: Personal Consumer Issues
Topic: Guy who lived in van while in grad school...
Replies: 13
Views: 2065

Re: What age did you reach 100K networth?

Age 32. This thread makes me feel even poorer than the net worth thread showing half of you are millionaires.
by market timer
Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:42 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: What age did you reach 100K networth?
Replies: 151
Views: 9331

Re: Is 3% the new 4%

What are you thinking about when you say you can create a proxy for a COLA annuity? From what I understand, COLA annuities are difficult to buy (not sure why, maybe this will change over time?), but it is easy to buy fixed annuities with a payout that rises at some rate, like 3%/year. That itself m...
by market timer
Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:25 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Is 3% the new 4%
Replies: 148
Views: 8389

Re: Is 3% the new 4%

TIPS won't work like this for large taxable accounts if inflation heats up. The actual effect on withdrawal rates is second-order and fairly limited, since you'd primarily be spending principal. In terms of liquidity, since taxes are due on phantom interest, one would need to plan accordingly or he...
by market timer
Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:01 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Is 3% the new 4%
Replies: 148
Views: 8389

Re: Is 3% the new 4%

What safe asset today keeps up with inflation, doesn't fluctuate in value, can be bought in sufficient quantities and either doesn't have adverse tax consequences or can be held in a tax-advantaged account? ibonds and SPIAs seem the most promising, but they fail on at least one criteria. TIPS held ...
by market timer
Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:06 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Is 3% the new 4%
Replies: 148
Views: 8389

Re: Career as a trader

You said you used to box. Imagine someone coming off the street and saying he'd like to box for a living. I think trading is like that: more like a dream than a goal for many. If you can make money playing poker, you might want to devote yourself 100% to that.
by market timer
Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:51 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Career as a trader
Replies: 18
Views: 1912

Re: What Book Are You Currently Reading? Part V

One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.
by market timer
Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:37 pm
 
Forum: Personal Consumer Issues
Topic: What Book Are You Currently Reading? Part V
Replies: 1544
Views: 233124

Re: Is 3% the new 4%

Keep in mind that this bond environment is not unusual at all. For 45 years, from about 1935 to 1980, real returns on bonds were near zero to negative. Nominal rates are low now but so is inflation , so that real bond returns today are about typical of long periods of the history covered by the Tri...
by market timer
Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:44 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Is 3% the new 4%
Replies: 148
Views: 8389

Re: Is 3% the new 4%

Of course, there's a whole school of thought starting with Robert Merton and including people like Zvi Bodie, and more recently, William Bernstein, is that you shouldn't be using a stock/bond portfolio to cover essential expenses. Use pensions, Social Security, SPIAs, and, perhaps, a TIPS ladder to...
by market timer
Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:28 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Is 3% the new 4%
Replies: 148
Views: 8389

Re: Crash! Assets are sold and the money goes... where?

AFAIK the US Federal Reserve has no inflation target. Or has Bernanke announced a formal one? http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/press/monetary/20120125c.htm The inflation rate over the longer run is primarily determined by monetary policy, and hence the Committee has the ability to specify a...
by market timer
Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:07 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Crash! Assets are sold and the money goes... where?
Replies: 50
Views: 4456

Re: If you were making a PF presentation for young professio

First, I doubt more than 50% of people under 25 have heard of the "rule of 72" or understand how compound interest actually works . People might know compound interest is vaguely important to financial stuff but I doubt most young people (even engineers) actually could give a cohesive exp...
by market timer
Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:15 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: If you were making a PF presentation for young professionals
Replies: 29
Views: 1734

Re: If you were making a PF presentation for young professio

As many have said, you have way too many topics to cover in an hour. If I were giving this presentation, I'd focus on four specific topics and give suggestions on where to get additional information. Also, you want to be careful not to bore your audience with stuff they've already heard (e.g., rule ...
by market timer
Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:51 am
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: If you were making a PF presentation for young professionals
Replies: 29
Views: 1734

Re: Creating $200k income p/a

Depending on your age, you might be able to get an annuity paying $100K/yr, and then get a job paying $100K/yr.
by market timer
Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:25 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: [Australia] Creating $200k income p/a [(per annum)]
Replies: 38
Views: 3163

Re: Stunning new bond volatility? What chart should I use?

But, second, even according to your chart, the MOVE index was higher in March of 2012 so, again, what's "stunning" or "new" about it? I'm not sure if recent volatility is "stunning" or "new" so much as we've had really depressed volatility for the past severa...
by market timer
Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:42 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Stunning new bond volatility? What chart should I use?
Replies: 22
Views: 1761

Re: Stunning new bond volatility? What chart should I use?

When Markman mentions the MOVE index, he's talking about implied volatility (the market's forecast for volatility), which does not necessarily correspond 1-for-1 with realized volatility (what you see on a graph). The MOVE index is for bonds what the VIX is for stocks. Here is a chart of the MOVE in...
by market timer
Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:20 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Stunning new bond volatility? What chart should I use?
Replies: 22
Views: 1761

Re: Please help a lost soul with more money than sense

6. Ugly to think about, but based on statistics, there is about a 50% chance you will get divorced at some point. As I understand it, for certain groups (e.g., college-educated, lived together before marriage, no previous marriages, no history of mental illness, etc.), the divorce probability is mu...
by market timer
Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:24 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Please help a lost soul with more money than sense
Replies: 26
Views: 3458

Re: CRASH! Assets are sold and the money goes... where?

Where did the fictitious wealth of Madoff's fund go when the ponzi scheme was revealed? So much of what we call wealth is just confidence in the future. I think that's correct. Well, if this "wealth" isn't really actual wealth but rather materialized confidence, then why does the federal ...
by market timer
Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:26 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Crash! Assets are sold and the money goes... where?
Replies: 50
Views: 4456

Re: CRASH! Assets are sold and the money goes... where?

Where did the fictitious wealth of Madoff's fund go when the ponzi scheme was revealed? So much of what we call wealth is just confidence in the future.
by market timer
Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:51 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Crash! Assets are sold and the money goes... where?
Replies: 50
Views: 4456

Re: Advice on Debt vs. Investing.

Assuming $90K inheritance, I'd use that plus the CDs (assuming reasonable breakage fee) to pay down $100K of student loans. Would then max out the 401K for 2013 and in the first few months of 2014. Once 401K is maxed out for 2014, take out a 401K loan for the max allowed and pay down student loans. ...
by market timer
Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:38 am
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Advice on Debt vs. Investing.
Replies: 25
Views: 1877

Re: Adult "child" moved back home - avoiding failure to laun

Is there a cap on the "freedom fund"? If not, this is a hot deal. Sounds like she's already up about $500 vs. where she'd be with a 4.0.
by market timer
Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:21 am
 
Forum: Personal Consumer Issues
Topic: Adult "child" moved back home - avoiding failure to launch
Replies: 189
Views: 9369

Re: Possible bullying at work

I would not send this email. If you are unhappy with your work environment, get another job offer.
by market timer
Thu May 30, 2013 12:07 pm
 
Forum: Personal Consumer Issues
Topic: Possible bullying at work
Replies: 87
Views: 6723

Re: Mr. Money Mustache answers early-retirement doubters

...doesn't easily allow excuses...blueprint...vast majority...wealthier a society...Will power...$100K pre-tax income I asked the internets for some numbers, and it gave me these... While inflation-adjusted ("real") household income had been increasing almost every year from 1945 to 1999,...
by market timer
Sat May 25, 2013 4:19 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Mr. Money Mustache answers early-retirement doubters
Replies: 19
Views: 2557

Re: Mr. Money Mustache answers early-retirement doubters

One thing I like about MMM is that he doesn't easily allow excuses. His lifestyle is a blueprint that I think can be followed by the vast majority of Americans. The wealthier a society is, the more vulnerable it is to excuses for failure. Will power is something that must be developed intentionally,...
by market timer
Sat May 25, 2013 12:11 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Mr. Money Mustache answers early-retirement doubters
Replies: 19
Views: 2557

Re: Mr. Money Mustache answers early-retirement doubters

He then gives 1 million dollars as an example of quote "early-retirement level savings". So let's do the math for a moment here. The median household in the United States makes $50,000/year. Setting aside taxes, it would take that household ten years to just make half a million dollars, l...
by market timer
Fri May 24, 2013 10:07 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Mr. Money Mustache answers early-retirement doubters
Replies: 19
Views: 2557

Re: Categorizing EE and I bonds in "Balances and Holdings"

Curious if anyone else has gone a different way with their classification of those. Choosing among Vanguard funds, I'd use VUSUX for EE bonds and VIPSX for I bonds. For newly issued EE bonds, I'd increase the value by 10%, and 5% for I bonds. E.g., $10K in EE bonds would be $11K worth of VUSUX, to ...
by market timer
Fri May 24, 2013 9:54 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Categorizing EE and I bonds in "Balances and Holdings"
Replies: 13
Views: 861

Re: The costs of moving house.. bid offer spreads

So who gets the advantage of this "bid offer spread"? Almost all (used) home transactions are between private individuals. There is only a very small group (mostly bottom feeders) that provide liquidity by holding an inventory of houses for sale. In a transaction between private parties t...
by market timer
Fri May 24, 2013 12:20 am
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: The costs of moving house.. bid offer spreads
Replies: 11
Views: 1047

Re: The costs of moving house.. bid offer spreads

The bid/ask spread is the agent commission, not all that different than for financial assets. The price is the same for the buyer and the seller. So doesn't really make sense to add anything for this on top of the commission. There are other costs in addition to the commission, but the bid/ask spre...
by market timer
Fri May 24, 2013 12:15 am
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: The costs of moving house.. bid offer spreads
Replies: 11
Views: 1047

Re: I [messed] up - Now what? ($200k in student loan debt, e

Jack wrote:
market timer wrote:I don't follow this closely ...

So you quote Santelli? Via ZeroHedge? Have you no pride?

If you're saying it's false, I'd be curious to see the source. These numbers certainly don't jibe with nonnie's stats, but maybe her stats are conditional on the person exiting disability.
by market timer
Thu May 16, 2013 10:59 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: I [messed] up - Now what? ($200k in student loan debt, etc.)
Replies: 117
Views: 8867

Re: I [messed] up - Now what? ($200k in student loan debt, e

Why on earth would you say that and what are your sources? I don't follow this closely, but according to one article, 1% of Americans who were on disability in Q1 11 have left: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-26/santelli-stunned-its-better-be-disability-work-minimum-wage It's possible that wh...
by market timer
Thu May 16, 2013 10:27 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: I [messed] up - Now what? ($200k in student loan debt, etc.)
Replies: 117
Views: 8867

Re: I [messed] up - Now what? ($200k in student loan debt, e

I do not drive because of my medical condition. I do not own a cell phone (too expensive), or even a land line other than magicjack. I do not have cable. I do not eat out (because I have a kitchen now thankfully). And I really do live on re-hydrated beans, mac & cheese, rice a roni, ramon noodl...
by market timer
Thu May 16, 2013 8:38 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: I [messed] up - Now what? ($200k in student loan debt, etc.)
Replies: 117
Views: 8867

Re: I [messed] up - Now what? ($200k in student loan debt, e

If he'd gone to work at a non-profit 10 years ago they'd be gone now. Given that he's presumably already made 15 years of payments, it's all the same going forward whether the forgiveness comes at 25 under IBR or 10 under PSLF. These programs are not retroactive. You actually have to say you are pa...
by market timer
Thu May 16, 2013 8:35 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: I [messed] up - Now what? ($200k in student loan debt, etc.)
Replies: 117
Views: 8867

Re: Can I retire?

Given a college cost of circa $250,000 and average post college starting salaries of circa $41,000, college is a poor investment in most cases. You shouldn't take the high end of college cost (250k) and then the average starting salary. Among other benefits of college, graduate unemployment is much...
by market timer
Wed May 15, 2013 11:18 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Can I retire?
Replies: 78
Views: 7039

Re: I [messed] up - Now what? ($200k in student loan debt, e

EmergDoc wrote:I ran into a resident the other day whose student loans were up to $520K and growing at 7%. Can you imagine? That's $35K a year in interest.

Does this resident have plans of using IBR/PAYE or PSLF?
by market timer
Wed May 15, 2013 9:37 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: I [messed] up - Now what? ($200k in student loan debt, etc.)
Replies: 117
Views: 8867

Re: I [messed] up - Now what? ($200k in student loan debt, e

Perkins loans will only be a small fraction of the total outstanding. Half of OP's debt is Federal. Are there Federal loans that don't qualify for forgiveness? I know nothing of these things. My thinking was that if 5 years of teaching could erase the federal debt and OP used the Summers off to wor...
by market timer
Tue May 14, 2013 8:13 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: I [messed] up - Now what? ($200k in student loan debt, etc.)
Replies: 117
Views: 8867

Re: I [messed] up - Now what? ($200k in student loan debt, e

Perkins loans will only be a small fraction of the total outstanding. OP's problem is that half the loans are private, so even something like IBR/PAYE won't clean the slate. There are really only two roads out of this; get a high paying job in the US or start over somewhere else (edit: or deal with ...
by market timer
Tue May 14, 2013 7:58 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: I [messed] up - Now what? ($200k in student loan debt, etc.)
Replies: 117
Views: 8867

I [messed] up - Now what? ($200k in student loan debt, etc.)

bigspender wrote:Question. When I was 18, my parents had to cosign the student loan. So unless things have changed, who cosigned your loan?

I received student loans at age 18 with no cosigner. This was in the late 90s.
by market timer
Tue May 14, 2013 7:44 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: I [messed] up - Now what? ($200k in student loan debt, etc.)
Replies: 117
Views: 8867

I [messed] up - Now what? ($200k in student loan debt, etc.)

In this situation, I'd probably move overseas to teach English.
by market timer
Tue May 14, 2013 7:31 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: I [messed] up - Now what? ($200k in student loan debt, etc.)
Replies: 117
Views: 8867

Re: Using Ayres/Nalebuff leveraged strategy (Lifecycle Inv.)

As Ranger notes, the implicit financing costs of LEAPS are tied to interest rates. In the current environment, where interest rates are well below the dividend yield on SPY, there really isn't a market for long term call options on the stock market (typical deep-in-the-money 2015 call options should...
by market timer
Sat May 11, 2013 11:13 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Using Ayres/Nalebuff leveraged strategy (Lifecycle Inv.)
Replies: 32
Views: 1972

Re: For those who started late.. how did you save for colleg

The best payoff is likely to come from motivating your son to get good grades and a high SAT score. For example, throughout high school in the mid 1990s my parents would pay $400/year ($100 per report card) for straight A's and offered me a prize of $1000 if I could score in the top 1% on the SAT, i...
by market timer
Sat May 11, 2013 3:13 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: For those who started late.. how did you save for college??
Replies: 28
Views: 2543

Re: How Much Did You Spend on Your Engagement Ring??

Both of us earn a very good salary so if I applied the 1/3 of yearly salary "rule" (which seems to high anyways) I would be buying an astronomically priced ring. What is a reasonable amount for a high income earner? We bought what I thought was an astronomically priced ring. I gave my wif...
by market timer
Wed May 08, 2013 9:23 pm
 
Forum: Personal Consumer Issues
Topic: How Much Did You Spend on Your Engagement Ring??
Replies: 254
Views: 11016

Re: Lessons from the last crash?

Don't use leverage. Don't risk what you can't afford to lose.
by market timer
Tue May 07, 2013 9:33 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Lessons from the last crash?
Replies: 44
Views: 3918

Re: How Much Did You Spend on Your Engagement Ring??

Both of us earn a very good salary so if I applied the 1/3 of yearly salary "rule" (which seems to high anyways) I would be buying an astronomically priced ring. What is a reasonable amount for a high income earner? We bought what I thought was an astronomically priced ring. I gave my wif...
by market timer
Tue May 07, 2013 7:34 pm
 
Forum: Personal Consumer Issues
Topic: How Much Did You Spend on Your Engagement Ring??
Replies: 254
Views: 11016

Re: Advice on School Loans

Assuming the bulk of the loans would be forgiven after 10 years under PSLF, you should probably keep the money liquid until you figure out your career path.
by market timer
Mon May 06, 2013 7:46 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Advice on School Loans
Replies: 5
Views: 470

Re: calculating SS benefit: $25k/yr x4 yr vs $100k yr once

Not precisely. Earlier earnings may be more heavily indexed than newer earnings further the max changes over time. But for rough estimation purposes especially over the span of a few years, yes. The SS cap grows at roughly the same rate as inflation, so contributions while earning 1/3 of max over 3...
by market timer
Sun May 05, 2013 8:47 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: calculating SS benefit: $25k/yr x4 yr vs $100k yr once
Replies: 17
Views: 1308

Re: Retiring in an up market

I'd be more inclined to retire when expected returns are lower. If stocks were cheap and bonds offered an attractive return, I'd rather keep working and investing.
by market timer
Sun May 05, 2013 8:44 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Retiring in an up market
Replies: 21
Views: 1812

Re: calculating SS benefit: $25k/yr x4 yr vs $100k yr once

[ the origins of the question are: I can look up my SS earnings record, and see my estimated benefit. But that's based on SSA projecting my future earnings "until retirement." I want to know how to calculate a reduced benefit based on working less, ie earning less than they project, for a...
by market timer
Sun May 05, 2013 7:02 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: calculating SS benefit: $25k/yr x4 yr vs $100k yr once
Replies: 17
Views: 1308
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