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Re: Brown bagging in a more formal office

The food's smell factor is the bigger issue. Yeah...I'm always cognizant of that. I don't ever bring fish or anything else that has a real strong smell for lunch. Might be an idea not to commit to a full wardrobe yet until you do a full analysis of people's dress habits. I think the rule of thumb i...
by guitarguy
Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:15 pm
 
Forum: Personal Consumer Issues
Topic: Brown bagging in a more formal office
Replies: 43
Views: 2939

Re: Brown bagging in a more formal office

Thanks for the replies. I was already planning on eating out for the first day, maybe even the first few days or the week. I do have a colleague I worked with for quite a while that now works over where I will be working. In a different group but same building. He's always been an "out for lunc...
by guitarguy
Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:22 am
 
Forum: Personal Consumer Issues
Topic: Brown bagging in a more formal office
Replies: 43
Views: 2939

Brown bagging in a more formal office

Hi all, I'm going to be starting a new job soon which I'm pretty stoked about. :D I will be going to a more formal office environment...not suit and tie, but not jeans every day like I'm currently used to either. So, I need to upgrade and buy a few things...some khakis/dress pants and dress shirts, ...
by guitarguy
Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:54 am
 
Forum: Personal Consumer Issues
Topic: Brown bagging in a more formal office
Replies: 43
Views: 2939

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

Good for you, I'm glad you took the job at megacorp. I had read this thread when it was originally posted and frankly I thought you were being a bit pig headed about the salary. When you described the work enjoyment and opportunities at Megacorp it sounded like a no brainer. If it also cuts your co...
by guitarguy
Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:51 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

UPDATE: Well...a surprising turn of events! Looks like I will be accepting this job offer after all...the original position with MegaCorp has presented itself again. A few things helped really turn my attitude around or whatever towards accepting this job. First of all, I interviewed at MegaCorp 2, ...
by guitarguy
Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:57 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Time and benefits vs. money.

Have you contacted recruiters to see if there is an Option C out there- possibly a private sector job that is closer to 40 hours... Is there such a thing anymore? Never been in the private sector, but my impression has become that the expectation is that you will be a workaholic in any private sect...
by guitarguy
Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:31 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Time and benefits vs. money.
Replies: 21
Views: 1561

Re: Worth forming an LLC for side gig? Tax question

At your annual revenue projections, I would question the cost effectiveness of an LLC. Even in my state where the annual cost is just $100/year. Beyond the liability issues, there is one other reason why I have an LLC. My revenue is intermittent, but usually 100% personal services. I am always bord...
by guitarguy
Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:31 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Worth forming an LLC for side gig? Tax question
Replies: 9
Views: 602

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

What I may do, is see if I can get a good offer from MegaCorp II and then use that to see if MegaCorp will re-evaluate their offer for me. Good problems to have but the whole process gets exhausting. As the hiring manager, if I got wind of this, or suspected it, you can bet you would never be hired...
by guitarguy
Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:27 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

And the plot thickens... :mrgreen: A classmate of mine is an engineering supervisor at MegaCorp II, a direct competitor of MegaCorp. He approached me this morning about a job opening in his group. Apparently I'm pretty in-demand all of a sudden. Honestly the thought of working for MegaCorp II isn't ...
by guitarguy
Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:36 am
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Do you love your job? What do you do?

Sr. Test Engineer at a Tier 1 auto supplier. Pros: Number one is I'm treated extremely well. No OT and flexible schedule. Lots of freedom to do what I want when I want. No stress whatsoever. I like the people I work with too which is a huge bonus. I work in a lab so I don't have to deal with a milli...
by guitarguy
Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:53 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Do you love your job? What do you do?
Replies: 134
Views: 10076

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

What incentive would my current employer have to withhold this information if a background check company called them and asked? It's company proprietary information so why WOULD they give it to a competitor? New company isn't a competitor. But anyway...the bottom line is I want what I want. Either ...
by guitarguy
Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:29 am
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

So I won't have some kind of updated salary documentation probably until then...so of course HR won't re-evaluate an offer for me until then. I still think there's a little confusion here on your part. You never need to 'prove' your current salary to a prospective company. They're never going to re...
by guitarguy
Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:26 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

Either I'm worth $83k or I'm not. My worth/value to them won't change in a month regardless of my job title and current salary at that time. Exactly... I think you dodged a bullet... You will NEVER get a good raise at that other company, no matter how hard you work there. I disagree. From what I he...
by guitarguy
Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:20 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

Either I'm worth $83k or I'm not. My worth/value to them won't change in a month regardless of my job title and current salary at that time. Exactly... I think you dodged a bullet... You will NEVER get a good raise at that other company, no matter how hard you work there. I disagree. From what I he...
by guitarguy
Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:22 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

Send a hand written thank you note to the hiring manager. Although I normally think that's a waste of time, in this case I agree, that's probably a good idea. I did follow up via a phone call rather than an email to inform the him of the final offer/discussion with the recruiter. We had a good shor...
by guitarguy
Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:18 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

So I won't have some kind of updated salary documentation probably until then...so of course HR won't re-evaluate an offer for me until then. I still think there's a little confusion here on your part. You never need to 'prove' your current salary to a prospective company. They're never going to re...
by guitarguy
Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:14 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

We had a really good talk actually. I explained in detail where I'm coming from (staring down the promotion and my $10k tuition hit to change jobs) and he seemed to totally understand and respect my side of things. He then went so far as to say he'll hold the position until April (when I should hav...
by guitarguy
Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:25 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

Final update (for now...I'll explain...) Called and talked to the hiring manager directly. He said not in so many words that he has a man crush on me and really thinks I'll be a terrific fit and would love the opportunity to have me on his team. He loves my attitude and the fact that I want to learn...
by guitarguy
Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:05 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

Well just got a voicemail directly from the hiring manager wanting to "touch base." Up until now all negotiations and discussions were through the recruiter. Wondering how this conversation is going to go when I call back. Perhaps a last minute effort (everything expires tonight at midnigh...
by guitarguy
Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:02 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Do you have a side job?

Yep. 40 hrs and a solid income to live off of during the day, guitarist on the weekends. Make around $7-10k a year which goes mostly towards paying off debt, vacations, and home improvements.
by guitarguy
Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:32 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Do you have a side job?
Replies: 58
Views: 4770

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

Just a note to say thanks for posting this experience. I think it's got some great tidbits and things to think about for future job hunters. As a side note, I think the salary differential alone is not near enough to switch from what sounds like a great employer to one you haven't worked with. (Gen...
by guitarguy
Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:55 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

Update... Well...they were unwilling to up the salary at all. Unfortunate. I said I cannot accept the offer as it stands, but will consider it if a substantial signing bonus could be added. They keep telling me my offer is generous (14%...right off the bat we have a different definition of generous...
by guitarguy
Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:45 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

As far as the promotion you have not gotten yet, do not anchor. Until you have it and the raise, it does not exist, regardless of what anyone has told you. I hope, for your sake, that you do get it. It sounds like a plum, and will dramatically increase your worth to others. From their perspective, ...
by guitarguy
Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:41 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

Completely agree with you. *IF* they do offer a sign-on bonus you should think about whether that makes it worth it or not. From your last post, I'd think not. Yes, IF they add that to the offer, I will still consider it. But I can't help, deep down, thinking that I will miss what I have if I leave...
by guitarguy
Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:46 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

Update... Well...they were unwilling to up the salary at all. Unfortunate. I said I cannot accept the offer as it stands, but will consider it if a substantial signing bonus could be added. They keep telling me my offer is generous (14%...right off the bat we have a different definition of generous)...
by guitarguy
Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:53 am
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Tipping for take out

I have never ordered take-out from a sit-down restaurant before, but if I did, I wouldn't tip. In sit-down restaurants, I always sit-down and eat. If I want takeout, I go to typical take-out places (McDonald's, etc). I'm surprised at this! We get take out from places that also offer sit-down quite ...
by guitarguy
Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:33 am
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Tipping for take out
Replies: 57
Views: 4549

Re: Tipping for take out

Almost never...

But...there is a local family owned Chinese food place that my wife and I frequent. They are very friendly and the food is terrific. Sometimes (not every time) we'll throw a couple bucks in the jar there.
by guitarguy
Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:30 am
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Tipping for take out
Replies: 57
Views: 4549

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

...So if they offer me $81-83k I will be satisfied with that, all things considered. If they low ball my "meet in the middle" request and only come up to $79-80k I will not be happy... With all respect, that seems strange. Try to look at it objectively (irrespective as to what their offer...
by guitarguy
Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:27 am
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

I start with a number, but assume they're going to nickel and dime me so the number I give them is somewhat higher than what I would actually accept. They get to feel good about being hard nosed and browbeating me into taking a lower number, I get to feel good because I got the salary I wanted in t...
by guitarguy
Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:12 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

It sounds like you answered your question already. Find ways to spend less and enjoy your life. Your TIME is worth much more than the enormous risk your taking for a few K or even $10K. Generally, a first-world existence with $50K is an amazing life (materially-speaking). Anything more is not worth...
by guitarguy
Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:05 am
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

gips wrote:you should have waited for your promotion and then started your job search.


I actually wasn't searching for a new job. This offer literally fell into my lap.
by guitarguy
Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:26 am
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

In fact with that timeline you only now mention, for the expiring offer, I would have given the recruiter two come backs - up the salary, or split the difference with a signing bonus. You don't want to get an answer friday and then be disappointed and have 24-48 hours to try and swing a signing bon...
by guitarguy
Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:50 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

I'd stand pat. You asked them to counter, it's in the recruiter's hands. Following up won't do anything, will only give you high level information and make you appear weak. When the recruiter gets the # back, he'll let you know. Remember a recruiter is like a Realtor. They get their $ when they clo...
by guitarguy
Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:18 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

Still awaiting feedback since asking for them to increase their offer yesterday. The recruiter said he had to check with the HR department for that group and get back to me. Fair enough. One thing I heard though, from someone I know that now works for MegaCorp and has gone through the hiring process...
by guitarguy
Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:25 am
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

As a rule, offers at the megacorps I know are pretty close to what they are capable of offering to a given candidate. The ones I am familiar with will have already picked an internal job title before they made the offer, and most want to make sure you have some salary headroom before they need to p...
by guitarguy
Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:12 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

Another update... I spoke with the hiring manager on the phone today and had a good conversation. I brought up the work/life balance directly by saying something like "in the interview orientation presentation, the presenter commented on how MegaCorp strives to promote a healthy work/life balan...
by guitarguy
Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:25 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

Just wanted to update you all on this... I was extended a verbal job offer this morning! :mrgreen: The initial base salary is a little below what I was hoping for, and I told the recruiter that when he asked what my initial thoughts were (after saying how excited and happy I was to receive the offer...
by guitarguy
Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:11 am
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

Go to indeed.com or glassdoor.com and check out reviews from current and past employees. If it is indeed (pun intended) a megacorp, you should be able to get a good glimpse of what people think of the company. I have already done that actually. I did find lots of reviews...unfortunately none from t...
by guitarguy
Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:26 am
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

Holiday is not required by law - maybe for federal employees or federal contractors but not private sector. My judgement might be different because I'm in the tech sector in silicon valley where lots of traditional rules are broken. Sounds like your company is stiff and uptight, but I see people fr...
by guitarguy
Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:05 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

You can tell a lot about work-life without asking the question. Drive by the place at 7:30 AM and again at 5:30 PM. How many cars are in the parking lot? Do the same on the weekend. That is a great proxy for this. This would certainly be the case at a small company. There are 3500 people at the fac...
by guitarguy
Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:40 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

One thing I should add...the general culture of the company is to get in early and get out early. I've heard that from a number of people over multiple years and buildings/locations. Regarding asking my professor (who is the "high-up" contact I have in this group, and the one who specially...
by guitarguy
Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:07 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

Most big companies have generous vacation policies anyway...usually 3 weeks + 2 weeks sick time for more "old school" companies and in my case we get unlimited PTO but I'm in silicon valley. I find it rather depressing that 3 weeks of vacation is considered to be "generous." Me ...
by guitarguy
Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:53 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

I agree about waiting until after the offer. I always wonder about people who ask this question-- why are they asking this? Are they just going to come here and slack? I'm not sure that is a snafu, actually. Post-offer, you can probably get this type of information. But I think you have to be caref...
by guitarguy
Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:22 am
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

If you want a number that is not seemingly on the table, say so. You do not want them to lowball you without realizing that they are. For work-life balance, wait for the offer to be on the table. I would ask the hiring manager post offer. I spoke with every one of my team members about on call/page...
by guitarguy
Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:13 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu

I interviewed at MegaCorp yesterday and thought the interview went very well. The job looks very interesting and my qualifications and experience are very applicable to the position. Plus I have an "in" via a recommendation from a "high-up" specialist in this particular group. Of...
by guitarguy
Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:07 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Job Offer Negotiation / Interview Snafu
Replies: 174
Views: 14972

Re: Preparing for behavioral question style interview

My company does this. My advice. Think of 3-4 stories of work challenges. You should be able to use these for any of the questions they throw at you. Answer it in this fashion: 1) Summarize the situation 2) state the challenges involved 3) explain your approach and what you did. 4) State the result...
by guitarguy
Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:15 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Preparing for behavioral question style interview
Replies: 20
Views: 1336

Re: POLL: Bogleheads' Gender/Education

I put Male - Master's.

Even though I haven't fully got it yet, I'm close. :mrgreen:
by guitarguy
Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:53 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: POLL: Bogleheads' Gender/Education
Replies: 12
Views: 1051

Re: Preparing for behavioral question style interview

It wouldn't be any more of a turnoff than a 15 minute speech introducing yourself. :) Holy crap...I know right!? When my buddy told me that at first I thought he was crazy...and that my little opening intro about myself should be more like 2-3 minutes or something. But then he said the interview wi...
by guitarguy
Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:08 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Preparing for behavioral question style interview
Replies: 20
Views: 1336

Re: Preparing for behavioral question style interview

And agree, no notes for questions. Is this the general consensus? What would you think as a hiring manager of someone who had notes readily available for this type of interview? A colleague who I worked with at my current company that now works at MegaCorp recommended to bring in notes... Keep in m...
by guitarguy
Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:36 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Preparing for behavioral question style interview
Replies: 20
Views: 1336
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