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- Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:29 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Flexible Premium Adjustable Indexed Life
- Replies: 23
- Views: 13338
Re: Flexible Premium Adjustable Indexed Life
I'm not sure your friend understands how "risky" this policy will be. Its a substantial risk to take money out of or loans against a UL policy with increasing costs of insurance over long periods of time. If the policy ever lapses then not only will he stop getting money for income, he will lose the death benefit and all gains the policy had will be immediately taxed as income. The company at their leisure can change both the caps and participation rates on index products yearly without your consent. They can also increase the cost of insurance to the guaranteed maximum charges. Sadly too many people don't understand that there isn't any magic in this world. In this situation, he is just taking on other risks. I would read this ar...
- Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:40 pm
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Yet another Whole Life Insurance Question, and paying debt.
- Replies: 2
- Views: 2197
Re: Yet another Whole Life Insurance Question, and paying debt.
A couple of things First you are likely very under insured for term. I would make that a priority and I would get term NOT associated with work likely 20-30 years level term. 2nd, this is a small policy so it isn't a big deal one way the other what you do with it but it really is mostly worth keeping IF you want a permanent death benefit. If not then probably not. You should acquire term BEFORE surrendering it if that is what you decide. Any and all gains would be taxed as income if surrendered. The insurance company can give you that number. If I kept the policy, I would pay off the loan against it, pay the premiums yearly, and make sure dividends are set to buy PUAs (paid up additions). You should definitely max out 401k etch up to any ma...
- Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:07 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Flexible Premium Adjustable Indexed Life
- Replies: 23
- Views: 13338
Re: Flexible Premium Adjustable Indexed Life
Zero for interest doesn't factor in increasing NON guaranteed cost for insurance.
- Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:33 pm
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Permanent Insurance Advise
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1382
Re: Permanent Insurance Advise
Unless one needs or wants a permanent death benefit (wants a guaranteed amount of money available at the time of their death) then unless they die premature to their health rating then its highly likely that a combination of term and investing appropriately will yield superior results but lets just go with IF for some reason you want one of these products. Then IF all you want is the death benefit (don't care about CSV) then if you look at the guaranteed columns, no lapse GUL gives you the best GUARANTEES. Unless the insurance company goes under/cant make good on its promise then it will be the cheapest for the death benefit looking at guaranteed values. Now just bc it has the best guarantees that doesn't mean in real world, it will actuall...
- Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:55 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Flexible Premium Adjustable Indexed Life
- Replies: 23
- Views: 13338
Re: Flexible Premium Adjustable Indexed Life
Ask for an illustration with GUARANTEED minimum crediting and GUARANTEED maximum charges for insurance.
You will get the picture about what is actually guaranteed.
You will get the picture about what is actually guaranteed.
- Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:16 pm
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Permanent Insurance Advise
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1382
Re: Permanent Insurance Advise
Might want to google unmet promises life insurance to see how unlikely the illustration is going to work out. That article was written by insurance folks.
- Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:09 pm
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Northwestern Mutual Whole Life Insurance (65 Life)
- Replies: 35
- Views: 20734
Re: Northwestern Mutual Whole Life Insurance (65 Life)
While I think one should keep one of these. One has to want a death benefit. If sad2 has any bond portion in his/her portfolio, this policy is competitive with, probably superior to it, even without the death benefit, which of course is what underlies it in the first place. At this point in the life of this particular policy, even without the death benefit, what fixed income investment can match it? It yields 4, maybe 5%, there is no interest rate risk, and it can be borrowed upon. Not exactly. One has to decide why they own bonds. I don't own bonds bc I want an inferior return compared to stocks. I own them bc I want to use them to rebalance. You can't do that with WL. Also historically these do NOT produce superior returns to bonds over ...
- Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:00 am
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Northwestern Mutual Whole Life Insurance (65 Life)
- Replies: 35
- Views: 20734
Re: Northwestern Mutual Whole Life Insurance (65 Life)
Now I probably wouldn't 1035 in this case IF I didn't want to keep it.
That just defers the tax so it's sort of kicking the can down the road.
I like that better in an older person but IF done go with a low cost VA like through vanguard
That just defers the tax so it's sort of kicking the can down the road.
I like that better in an older person but IF done go with a low cost VA like through vanguard
- Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:57 am
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Northwestern Mutual Whole Life Insurance (65 Life)
- Replies: 35
- Views: 20734
Re: Northwestern Mutual Whole Life Insurance (65 Life)
All gains immediately taxed as income.
Most people lapse/surrender their policies.
Most people lapse/surrender their policies.
- Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:53 am
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Northwestern Mutual Whole Life Insurance (65 Life)
- Replies: 35
- Views: 20734
Re: Northwestern Mutual Whole Life Insurance (65 Life)
As I've mentioned several times I would keep this but I want to point out: It is only tax free if kept in force until death. One needs to look at an in force illustration to see the actual guaranteed increase in CSV. Right now the CSV is increasing (illustrated) at around 5%. I bet if you look at the illustration, the guaranteed is less than 4%. This is why one always needs to look at the actual illustration and not the wording of guaranteed 4% since its meaningless without understanding the other costs. One has to be careful about loans. They cost what they cost period which is likely around 7% for a fixed from this company last time I looked. This company is a direct recognition company for loans as well. If you take them out to early and...
- Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:56 pm
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Indexed Deferred Income Annuities
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1145
Re: Indexed Deferred Income Annuities
as you likely know, the term is used for a variety of things but im assuming for your thread that you are defining it as irrevocable contract where you give up a lump sum of money (or add to it during the deferral period) and then at some later date get an income stream. If you die before the income stream then you and your heirs get nothing. well then how does the insurance company get you that income stream. There are two factors, their return on their investments (which are mostly bonds) and mortality credits from the people dying early. Keep in mind that insurance companies use different mortality tables for annuities than life insurance since pretty much only the healthy are going to purchase one of these things. If you purchase this l...
- Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:21 pm
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Indexed Deferred Income Annuities
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1145
Re: Indexed Deferred Income Annuities
in my view the key to understanding these is to understand the insurance companies dont have magic.
they can invest in things (which u could do without them), take out a huge chunk for their profit/fees/commissions/whatever, and pass on the rest to you. obviously this part isnt exciting.
they can pool risk (the part you cant do on your own). With income, one can go into a contract with the insurance companies where in essence you give up a pot of money and can obtain mortality credits (lifetime SPIA for instance). If you live long enough or just want the insurance of a steady stream then that can be worth the cost to you.
if you want inflation protection then again they dont have magic so you need to do that at a higher cost.
they can invest in things (which u could do without them), take out a huge chunk for their profit/fees/commissions/whatever, and pass on the rest to you. obviously this part isnt exciting.
they can pool risk (the part you cant do on your own). With income, one can go into a contract with the insurance companies where in essence you give up a pot of money and can obtain mortality credits (lifetime SPIA for instance). If you live long enough or just want the insurance of a steady stream then that can be worth the cost to you.
if you want inflation protection then again they dont have magic so you need to do that at a higher cost.
- Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:27 pm
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Northwestern Mutual Whole Life Insurance (65 Life)
- Replies: 35
- Views: 20734
Re: Northwestern Mutual Whole Life Insurance (65 Life)
Might want to look what happened in Japan with their similar strong companies after sustained low interest rates. Nobody has magic. If their assumptions don't hold then trouble will occur. Might want to also realize they no longer provide the highest dividends.
As I've mentioned several times, I'd keep the policy.
As I've mentioned several times, I'd keep the policy.
- Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:47 pm
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Northwestern Mutual Whole Life Insurance (65 Life)
- Replies: 35
- Views: 20734
Re: Northwestern Mutual Whole Life Insurance (65 Life)
although that isnt actually the worst case scenario. Guarantees are only as good as the company making them. I dont think that will happen but one needs to understand what guarantee means when talking about these products.
- Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:45 pm
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: 7702 plan
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1093
Re: 7702 plan
additionally one should realize that transamerica just recently increased insurance costs on their INFORCE polices above the typical increases that occur with just increasing age in a UL policy. Given that mortality isnt increasing, i find that "interesting" myself and it would worry me personally about buying a policy from them. Might want to google transamerica cost of insurance increases to read up on it.
- Sun Oct 04, 2015 12:38 pm
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Northwestern Mutual Whole Life Insurance (65 Life)
- Replies: 35
- Views: 20734
Re: Northwestern Mutual Whole Life Insurance (65 Life)
Thank you both for the replies. Dhodson, when you discuss PUA (paid up additions), is that the same thing as using the dividends to increase the cash value and coverage? I was unable to locate the PUA verbiage in my profile settings, but I do see that my dividends are being used to increase cash value and coverage. So it sounds like because of the sunks costs, and if I value leaving money at death to any potential heir (placing a value on a permanent death benefit), then I should just leave it in place. Getting back to PUA, why would you recommend the PUA option? Is it because if I take the dividends out, those are taxable at Ordinary Income rates. Finally, what about using the dividends to pay the annual premium? Now that I think about it...
- Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:56 am
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Northwestern Mutual Whole Life Insurance (65 Life)
- Replies: 35
- Views: 20734
Re: Northwestern Mutual Whole Life Insurance (65 Life)
thats not what i would do what i would do is calculate it currently (it changes and at the moment is going down) so id look at my return from 2014 to 2015 and id repeat this process every couple of years (assuming im keeping it which is what i would do but i would be ok with giving some money at my death) in 2014 he "invested $36,410 + $741 for a total of $37,151 and in one year he got $39,042 in return. So that got him a 5.1% (not including taxes which would happen if he actually surrendered for the total amount). Likely this coming year will be fairly similar but over longer periods of time it changes a decent amount. Now if he isnt going to keep this in force until death then you are just further aggravating the problem that all gai...
- Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:38 am
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Northwestern Mutual Whole Life Insurance (65 Life)
- Replies: 35
- Views: 20734
Re: Northwestern Mutual Whole Life Insurance (65 Life)
I am not a fan of whole life policies and advise people to avoid them. However this is an old policy and for $741 in premiums paid every year you are getting additional cash value of $2,400 a year. This is a 28 year old policy so the big commissions have already been paid. This policy was written when bond yield where much higher than today and is probably more attractive than any similar policy you could buy today. For myself, I would be inclined to keep it. you are not including the current CSV in your "calculations" which artificially make it sound a better deal. He isnt just putting in 741 per year. He is also giving them access to 40k in order to increase the CSV. With that said it is definitely true that keeping an old WL p...
- Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:36 am
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Cash Balance Retirement Question
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1114
Re: Cash Balance Retirement Question
You can also see how much in monthly payments that lump sum would get you if you purchased a SPIA.
- Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:03 pm
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: Resources on Variable Annuities
- Replies: 18
- Views: 2771
Re: Resources on Variable Annuities
I guess that depends on what you mean by share of risk.
Insurance companies priced these riders such that they would cover their end of the risk and make a profit. Well when that wasnt enough they have unilaterally forced clients into specific investments, removing the better options with folks being left with investments with higher costs and lower returns. If the client didnt submit then they lost the guarantee even thought they were paying for it for years.
i dont personally consider that sharing of risk.
Insurance companies priced these riders such that they would cover their end of the risk and make a profit. Well when that wasnt enough they have unilaterally forced clients into specific investments, removing the better options with folks being left with investments with higher costs and lower returns. If the client didnt submit then they lost the guarantee even thought they were paying for it for years.
i dont personally consider that sharing of risk.
- Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:44 pm
- Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
- Topic: Resources on Variable Annuities
- Replies: 18
- Views: 2771
Re: Resources on Variable Annuities
No need to purchase a VA.
He would be having higher costs, no tax loss harvesting, less liquidity, and no step up of basis at death.
Instead just purchase a SPIA at a later date IF "guaranteed" income is needed. Don't need a VA for the "pension" effect.
He would be having higher costs, no tax loss harvesting, less liquidity, and no step up of basis at death.
Instead just purchase a SPIA at a later date IF "guaranteed" income is needed. Don't need a VA for the "pension" effect.
- Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:38 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Nationwide Variable Annuity Navigator 2.0; Which funds to invest in?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 2520
Re: Nationwide Variable Annuity Navigator 2.0; Which funds to invest in?
itstoomuch wrote:There's "no free lunch"
and I will add, "for anything"
The difference is whether how you can recognize it.
No I'm well aware of the fees
I can take the lump sum or purchase a SpIA at that time with its associated costs. Having a single person DB plan makes it easy to see costs of investing.
There are two main reasons why DC plans are now more popular. They are less costly especially since u don't need actuaries and 2nd you don't need to assume the investment risk.
None of this means one should consider VAs and income riders.
- Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:57 am
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Nationwide Variable Annuity Navigator 2.0; Which funds to invest in?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 2520
Re: Nationwide Variable Annuity Navigator 2.0; Which funds to invest in?
I have a defined benefit plan. I have no such fees.
- Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:21 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Nationwide Variable Annuity Navigator 2.0; Which funds to invest in?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 2520
Re: Nationwide Variable Annuity Navigator 2.0; Which funds to invest in?
What tax hit?
It lost money not even including surrender charges.
It lost money not even including surrender charges.
- Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:24 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Nationwide Variable Annuity Navigator 2.0; Which funds to invest in?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 2520
Re: Nationwide Variable Annuity Navigator 2.0; Which funds to invest in?
Considering how much she has lost/paid for this, If her health is good I'd start the income rider at the earlier date. given the poor return so far, I'd go aggressive within this VA but as u know they limit your selection (on purpose). Bad purchase but likely should ride it out in my view.
- Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:14 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Maxing out 401K, Backdoor Roth and Mega Backdoor Roth. What’s next?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1272
Re: Maxing out 401K, Backdoor Roth and Mega Backdoor Roth. What’s next?
529 if appropriate.
Don't get suckered into thinking tax deferral is the goal. Otherwise you will get sold products you really shouldn't purchase.
Don't get suckered into thinking tax deferral is the goal. Otherwise you will get sold products you really shouldn't purchase.
- Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:16 am
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Is private high school "worth it"?
- Replies: 130
- Views: 13237
Re: Is private high school "worth it"?
This is more kid dependent than anything else. Its important to make a guess at where they will exceed. I'd carefully consider more than just academics in the equation. I went to a small public HS which would be considered horrible from an education standpoint. That worked out awesome for me. I was able to be at the top of a lot of things including sports (I wouldn't even make some of my kids teams at this point). Having those experiences gave me confidence and that helped me tremendously to exceed in life. Now our children go to private for a variety of reasons. For my daughter, I wish she could have had my experience. She goes to a school where multiple kids get perfect SAT scores and thus she thinks she isn't that smart even though she i...
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:53 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Help with maturing fixed annuity. Settlement options???
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2820
Re: Help with maturing fixed annuity. Settlement options???
Only if there are fees/charges from the insurance contract that u didn't mention. I'd call vanguard for a direct transfer after confirming with insurance company no more fees.
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 1:57 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: White Coat Investing
- Replies: 28
- Views: 5744
Re: White Coat Investing
Stay away from people who sell insurance as an investment.
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:50 am
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Can employer raise health insurance payroll deduction midyear?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 5053
Re: Can employer raise health insurance payroll deduction?
Sure
Very likely costs went up for them as well
They should inform u though
Very likely costs went up for them as well
They should inform u though
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:50 am
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Survivorship Life Insurance
- Replies: 10
- Views: 978
Re: Survivorship Life Insurance
Terrible idea
The truth is he can't afford to do this and thus shouldn't
It is also a bad investment by the way
He isn't leaving you anything but a bill with this plan
The truth is he can't afford to do this and thus shouldn't
It is also a bad investment by the way
He isn't leaving you anything but a bill with this plan
- Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:12 pm
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Should I Cash Out my Whole Life Policy?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1068
Re: Should I Cash Out my Whole Life Policy?
first sorry for your loss.
it sounds like you dont NEED the death benefit but it isnt clear if you NEED this money or just would pass it on to someone or something else.
If you want to pass money to someone or something else then id keep it in force bc all the serious commissions/fees/drags are gone. I probably would have chosen a different dividend option years ago but now id allow dividends to pay premiums with any excess either used to purchase paid up additions or obtain interest on them. I wouldnt keep the 1 year term thing going unless your health has gone down hill.
If you have no interest in passing this money to someone or something else then id do as taylor suggested.
it sounds like you dont NEED the death benefit but it isnt clear if you NEED this money or just would pass it on to someone or something else.
If you want to pass money to someone or something else then id keep it in force bc all the serious commissions/fees/drags are gone. I probably would have chosen a different dividend option years ago but now id allow dividends to pay premiums with any excess either used to purchase paid up additions or obtain interest on them. I wouldnt keep the 1 year term thing going unless your health has gone down hill.
If you have no interest in passing this money to someone or something else then id do as taylor suggested.
- Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:05 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Northwestern Mutual - investment advice
- Replies: 39
- Views: 19202
Re: Northwestern Mutual - investment advice
well you havent met many NWM agents then especially ones claiming to do a full analysis which you paid for. If he died tomorrow then he certainly would be underinsured since nobody can afford as much WL as they can term. Even in good health, 2 million in WL for him would be like 40k a year. Term of course much much cheaper. If it was discovered he died with only the 100k WL policy (or some small amount u get the picture) and PAID for an analysis that clearly under insured him, then there would be a case. what they do is sell you a term policy (which is super expensive by the way for term) with the idea that you will convert it as you get wealthier. They sell you as much WL at the moment that you can afford but they plan on contacting you ye...
- Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:28 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Northwestern Mutual - investment advice
- Replies: 39
- Views: 19202
Re: Northwestern Mutual - investment advice
i seriously doubt that the agent didnt also consider term insurance. I imagine the OP only mentioned the insurance products he didnt already own that the agent wanted him to purchase.
In regards to disability insurance, group/work is vastly inferior to individual. That being said, it is also vastly more expensive (part of the reason being it is more likely to pay if disabled). I can understand why people rely on group mostly bc of costs.
In regards to disability insurance, group/work is vastly inferior to individual. That being said, it is also vastly more expensive (part of the reason being it is more likely to pay if disabled). I can understand why people rely on group mostly bc of costs.
- Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:29 am
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Northwestern Mutual - investment advice
- Replies: 39
- Views: 19202
Re: Northwestern Mutual - investment advice
you should start off reading some of the boglehead recommended books unfortunately you wasted $1200 on that evaluation IMO. You were going to get a recommendation for insurance from an insurance company. I personally would cut ties with them. They are very good at selling and unless you are awesome at resisting sales pitches you will find yourself funding their retirement and not yours. You didnt list a single reason why you needed permanent life insurance yet you got that recommendation (almost nobody needs it and only a small portion of those who purchase it, actually keep it until retirement). You might want to think on why that is the case and why the cash value of the life insurance is so much less than what you what get from investing...
- Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:06 pm
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Buying whole life insurance in NJ -- Tricky question
- Replies: 3
- Views: 740
Re: Buying whole life insurance in NJ -- Tricky question
If you are looking for an agent that sells LTCi either standalone or hybrid policy then while there are some decent agents here, i dont think any specialize in that particular situation but i dont know for sure. Might want to try one of the insurance agent forums on the web. They certainly have subforums on LTCi and can hook you up with someone who sells a lot of them. If that is in your best interest is difficult to determine. Now im not in the insurance industry at all. You have been a member here for several years. You likely know that Whole Life is not a good investment and you likely know the issues with LTCi from the discussions here. Why does combining the two appeal to you and your friend? I find it humerus that people can some how ...
- Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:26 pm
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Disagreements with future spouse over finances: advice for young adult?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 8158
Re: Disagreements with future spouse over finances: advice for young adult?
Every couple fights about money. Those who say they never did are liars. How you handle such fights will determine divorce or not (and other signs of happiness or lack there of).
If you are looking for complete agreement on all monetary issues then good luck. That doesn't mean I would get involved with someone with vastly different views on money or kids or a bunch of other things which are either known to be important to me or have been shown to be important in general.
If you are looking for complete agreement on all monetary issues then good luck. That doesn't mean I would get involved with someone with vastly different views on money or kids or a bunch of other things which are either known to be important to me or have been shown to be important in general.
- Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:14 am
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: I want to borrow against my house to buy land
- Replies: 18
- Views: 4401
Re: I want to borrow against my house to buy land
Leverage is a risk many shouldn't take
Now you might be completely fine with this but that's up to you.
Now you might be completely fine with this but that's up to you.
- Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:38 am
- Forum: Personal Consumer Issues
- Topic: Best Chromebook 2015
- Replies: 61
- Views: 11481
Re: Best Chromebook 2015
My son has the dell with touchscreen and likes it
- Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:52 am
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Help with maturing fixed annuity. Settlement options???
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2820
Re: Help with maturing fixed annuity. Settlement options???
As mentioned, it looks taxes have not been paid on this money and it is an annuity within a qualified plan. Insurance company should be able to confirm this.
- Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:02 pm
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Life Insurance: rights as insured, but not owner
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1310
Re: Life Insurance: rights as insured, but not owner
In my opinion, you made the point to the "owner" of the policy - and, unless there are other extenuating circumstances, I would then just shut up. This is costing you nothing and if/when you become the "owner" of the policy - you can do whatever you want. x2 Regardless of your good intentions, it sounds like he is trying to help you out and I would leave it at that. Trying to show him that you know more about it than he does is probably not the best idea. The OP isn't the beneficiary so he isn't getting any help. With that said, an in force illustration will show how it's currently performing. After a few decades, these polices going forward can be bond like in return (ignoring all the early losses with such a policy).
- Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:30 pm
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Life Insurance: rights as insured, but not owner
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1310
Re: Life Insurance: rights as insured, but not owner
Interesting that as an adult they allowed the policy to be written on you without notification.
If it's an old policy then might be worth keeping at this point.
If it's an old policy then might be worth keeping at this point.
- Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:44 pm
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Whole life insurance policy?
- Replies: 15
- Views: 1834
Re: Whole life insurance policy?
please use the search engine
you either misunderstood what he said, he phrased things in a way that got you thinking the actual return was guaranteed to be 6% or he just completely lied.
The actual return on WL is NOT GUARANTEED to be 6% on either the cash surrender value or the death benefit (assuming death does not occur prematurely to your health rating). A current policy might illustrate (but not guarantee) around 5.5% return on the death benefit (assuming appropriate estimate of death based on health rating).
you either misunderstood what he said, he phrased things in a way that got you thinking the actual return was guaranteed to be 6% or he just completely lied.
The actual return on WL is NOT GUARANTEED to be 6% on either the cash surrender value or the death benefit (assuming death does not occur prematurely to your health rating). A current policy might illustrate (but not guarantee) around 5.5% return on the death benefit (assuming appropriate estimate of death based on health rating).
- Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:41 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Looking for advice. 24 yr/old young professional sold life insurance by NML.
- Replies: 68
- Views: 9649
Re: Looking for advice. 24 yr/old young professional sold life insurance by NML.
Yes he was hoping to sucker you into more WL. It would be WL that was again not "optimized". No favor to you.
- Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:38 pm
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Level versus Escalating Term Life Insurance Premium
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1213
Re: Level versus Escalating Term Life Insurance Premium
You need to look at IF the premium rates for the escalating are guaranteed not to increase and policy guaranteed renewable. The rates may not be.
Then calculate total costs for each policy and evaluate investing the difference
Likely u want level term unless u think it's highly likely u will cancel the policy early
Then calculate total costs for each policy and evaluate investing the difference
Likely u want level term unless u think it's highly likely u will cancel the policy early
- Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:16 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Dave Ramsey Calls Out "Bogle-ites"
- Replies: 61
- Views: 14114
Re: Dave Ramsey Calls Out "Bogle-ites"
I don't see any reason to respond to him.
Evidence supports a boglehead approach over managed.
There isn't any evidence that looking at costs creates behavioral issues where one is paralyzed and doesn't save.
Frankly (although also non scientific), learning about fees encourages one to focus more on retirement including the saving aspect.
Evidence supports a boglehead approach over managed.
There isn't any evidence that looking at costs creates behavioral issues where one is paralyzed and doesn't save.
Frankly (although also non scientific), learning about fees encourages one to focus more on retirement including the saving aspect.
- Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:44 am
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: fixed-index annuity question
- Replies: 2
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Re: fixed-index annuity question
Fixed index annuities are deferred annuities.
So if coming from a taxable you change long term capital to income rates on gains, you can't tax loss harvest, and no step up in basis at death.
The gains are going to be very similar to regular fixed annuities since they take the money and invest 95+% in their general accounts which is mostly bonds. They take a small part and invest in options to credit the index. They can change caps and participation rates without your consent. It will thus perform slightly better or slightly worse than regular deferred annuity.
There are no lifetime income by itself. You could annuitize it at a later date or buy an income rider at significant costs.
So if coming from a taxable you change long term capital to income rates on gains, you can't tax loss harvest, and no step up in basis at death.
The gains are going to be very similar to regular fixed annuities since they take the money and invest 95+% in their general accounts which is mostly bonds. They take a small part and invest in options to credit the index. They can change caps and participation rates without your consent. It will thus perform slightly better or slightly worse than regular deferred annuity.
There are no lifetime income by itself. You could annuitize it at a later date or buy an income rider at significant costs.
- Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:38 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Looking for advice. 24 yr/old young professional sold life insurance by NML.
- Replies: 68
- Views: 9649
Re: Looking for advice. 24 yr/old young professional sold life insurance by NML.
Most surrender within 15 years thus there isn't enough time for health issues to arise that would greatly influence this. Later on I believe yes which I also believe contributes to the IRR actually dipping later on instead of improving.
- Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:51 pm
- Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
- Topic: Value annuity for estate, Maryland
- Replies: 6
- Views: 900
Re: Value annuity for estate, Maryland
i am not sure but believe fair market value is what JH should be giving you. Are they trying to pretend it has zero value....No wonder the court sees it differently.
- Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:48 pm
- Forum: Personal Investments
- Topic: Looking for advice. 24 yr/old young professional sold life insurance by NML.
- Replies: 68
- Views: 9649
Re: Looking for advice. 24 yr/old young professional sold life insurance by NML.
The odds of this being your best performing asset in the distant future is very very low. You do realize that WL companies have been decreasing dividends for decades and likely will either continue to do so or stay low for the next several years. Did he tell you that the guaranteed values on the death benefit are below inflation. This has always seemed to me to be the big problem with life insurance. The benefit - which you don't get until you die, and even then YOU don't get it - is so far down the road it can't keep up with inflation. Especially here, the OP is now 24 years old. That's a long road until his beneficiary gets the death benefit. I suppose the dividends paid to OP over the years and perhaps if his policy allows paid-up addit...