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Re: Deciding How Much to put in International

I see purchasing power as purchasing power whether it is dollars, pounds, euros, or yen. To me, currency diversification makes sense. For all those in favor of currency diversification, can you answer my pension plan hypothetical posted above? I already did. Was that in another thread, or did my an...
by Noobvestor
Wed May 22, 2013 7:35 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Deciding How Much to put in International
Replies: 55
Views: 3777

Re: Deciding How Much to put in International

I see purchasing power as purchasing power whether it is dollars, pounds, euros, or yen. To me, currency diversification makes sense. For all those in favor of currency diversification, can you answer my pension plan hypothetical posted above? I already did. Was that in another thread, or did my an...
by Noobvestor
Wed May 22, 2013 12:06 am
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Deciding How Much to put in International
Replies: 55
Views: 3777

Re: Deciding How Much to put in International

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Anyone who already has international and is just now lowering it after a spell of underperformance has me worried.
by Noobvestor
Wed May 22, 2013 12:05 am
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Deciding How Much to put in International
Replies: 55
Views: 3777

I really hope people aren't tilting US due to recency

http://i.imgur.com/BjGB9sS.jpg I am not suggesting anyone should be tilting toward international, but the US has had a nice run and these things do turn around now and again ... Buy, hold, rebalance, and don't trick yourself into thinking you're lowering your international allocation because you wa...
by Noobvestor
Wed May 22, 2013 12:04 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: I really hope people aren't tilting US due to recency
Replies: 36
Views: 2110

Re: Jack Bogle on International Investing at Bogleheads 11

I apologize for the bump, but going over some home bias threads (much harder when your country constitutes 0.4% of the world's economy) I keep running into Noobvestor's excellent advice and flawless logic. I think he deserves some kind of prize :sharebeer That being said, another angle worth mentio...
by Noobvestor
Sun May 19, 2013 1:44 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Jack Bogle on International Investing at Bogleheads 11
Replies: 45
Views: 3449

Re: Just Sold Out. What do you think?

Glad to be here! I remember when I was a kid. I had a box of baseball cards that I carried around with me everywhere. I had carefully notated how much each card was worth based on the high estimate provided by the price guide. I estimated that I had about $500 in cards. I was very proud of this num...
by Noobvestor
Mon May 13, 2013 6:17 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Just Sold Out. What do you think?
Replies: 95
Views: 6932

Re: Deciding How Much to put in International

I had my checkup with a Vanguard CFP a few months ago. I went in completely open-minded. I listened to the 30% idea and asked for the data. So we looked over the report that was attached by OP. I have done research most of my adult life and am familiar with viewing data and interpretations. So look...
by Noobvestor
Fri May 10, 2013 10:07 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Deciding How Much to put in International
Replies: 55
Views: 3777

Re: Deciding How Much to put in International

The fanatical replies and accusations by some on this topic indicate an emotional attachment or bias more than a rational decision. I'll leave it up to you to decide. Personally, I just go with a % that I can sleep at night with and not make a hasty decision if International either under or over re...
by Noobvestor
Thu May 09, 2013 2:58 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Deciding How Much to put in International
Replies: 55
Views: 3777

Re: Vanguard Security Issue (Can I Limit Fund Removal Option

Thank you all for responding - I am going to accept the wisdom of the board on this one and concede I must be over-thinking things. I did also pick up a good idea here: perhaps I could add one small layer of security by separating out my Vanguard-connected email account (I can always forward from an...
by Noobvestor
Thu May 09, 2013 2:54 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Vanguard Security Issue (Can I Limit Fund Removal Options?)
Replies: 10
Views: 795

Re: Deciding How Much to put in International

IMO this whole topic is really a perfect illustration of various cognitive biases that even us Bogleheads (even Jack Bogle) can subscribe to: recency, localism, anchoring. Much of the argument in the paper, and on this thread, seems to amount to rationalizations of why in this case subscribing to s...
by Noobvestor
Thu May 09, 2013 11:37 am
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Deciding How Much to put in International
Replies: 55
Views: 3777

Re: Why don't people use the Permanent Portfolio?

Looking to reduce yearly volatility at the expense of longer term gains, whilst providing a more emotionally comfortable ride, might not meet investment objectives. I think that was the stated objective of the PP. muted returns 3% to 4 % real with less deviation Which distils down to what I suggest...
by Noobvestor
Wed May 08, 2013 4:23 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Why don't people use the Permanent Portfolio?
Replies: 151
Views: 8240

Vanguard Security Issue (Can I Limit Fund Removal Options?)

I'm trying to see if anyone here knows better than the guy I just talked to, but here's my situation: I don't like Vanguard's security (for reasons already much-discussed on this forum) and want to put up some roadblocks to taking out money (as my VG accounts are for long-term investing - I don't ne...
by Noobvestor
Wed May 08, 2013 4:14 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Vanguard Security Issue (Can I Limit Fund Removal Options?)
Replies: 10
Views: 795

Re: Bitcoins Purpose in a Portfolio

Bill Gates: "[Bitcoin] is a techno tour de force." Charlie Munger: "I think it's rat poison." Warren Buffett: "I think either Charlie or Bill is right."

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/2359385547001/
by Noobvestor
Wed May 08, 2013 4:00 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Bitcoins Purpose in a Portfolio
Replies: 96
Views: 6563

Re: Why don't people use the Permanent Portfolio?

Question for anyone who is saying some variant of " I don't invest in asset classes with 0% expected return": Do you invest in bonds? Do you believe they have a real expected return (my napkin math suggests that most don't)? If the best predictor of future rates is current rates, the answe...
by Noobvestor
Wed May 08, 2013 3:01 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Why don't people use the Permanent Portfolio?
Replies: 151
Views: 8240

Re: Too lazy to write an IPS

Probably no problems, but you have to decide what you'll do if they change the composition down the line (e.g. complicate it with international bonds, etc... or frustratingly change the glide path, as they've done before I believe). You will also *potentially* need to address taxation issues if/when...
by Noobvestor
Tue May 07, 2013 11:29 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Too lazy to write an IPS
Replies: 14
Views: 1420

Re: Why don't people use the Permanent Portfolio?

I'm in the (perhaps rare?) camp that would consider it seriously, but does not actually employ it personally. Here are a few of my reasons, FWIW: 1) I want more return out of my portfolio than I would expect 25% in stocks to provide. I would thus *reconsider* it if I were looking for stability over ...
by Noobvestor
Tue May 07, 2013 11:26 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Why don't people use the Permanent Portfolio?
Replies: 151
Views: 8240

Re: know the data before buying HY bonds

A risky investment means you don't have money when you need it. If someone needed all the money from their investment portfolio next year, they I wouldn't recommend the Vanguard High-Yield Corporate Bond fund either. What If you don't need all the money? Then it's a different risk.i With all due re...
by Noobvestor
Sat May 04, 2013 11:02 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: know the data before buying HY bonds
Replies: 46
Views: 2233

Re: Need help w/ my 401k Options

vital, I am not sure I exactly understand your question, but: I would choose a target retirement fund with a date ten years later than your actual date. Keith Did you mean ten years earlier? They already skew toward risk by rule-of-thumb reckoning - ten years later would be extremely equity-heavy.
by Noobvestor
Fri May 03, 2013 5:34 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Need help w/ my 401k Options
Replies: 8
Views: 443

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

HSV is correct - I wasn't talking about his wife or kids' tickets - I was talking about how he worked for 3 weeks and vacationed for 4, but counted all 7 as a blogging business expense (despite it clearly not being his intention to travel there for business at all ...). I mean I'm really confused no...
by Noobvestor
Wed May 01, 2013 10:03 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

find it incredibly ironic that we nit pick the authenticity of MMM's lifestyle, nitpick the transparencies in deciding if he's worthy whereas 99% of the people here are anonymous handles giving opinions, some authoritative, to all that ask. Perhaps each of us should reveal our expenses for the year...
by Noobvestor
Wed May 01, 2013 3:38 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

Here is the article: http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/11/18/mustache-on-the-move-wintering-in-hawaii/ He went down to help someone he met online do home renovations. We could debate whether his trade work will wind up on his taxes, but I won't go there. What I do find interesting is that accordin...
by Noobvestor
Wed May 01, 2013 3:33 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

@Noob - do you really think that person you quoted will act the way he thinks he will in 20-25 yrs from now? Don't you think he is at the very least on the right path by starting to save aggressively towards his goal? Oh it's not about what they do in 20-25 years based on this information - it's ab...
by Noobvestor
Wed May 01, 2013 1:34 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

@DoubleDraw: you're right - I'm wrong about my search experiment because I was using the same browser without a cleared cache, and at least one of the results is indeed out of place if I use FireFox with a clean history. To be fair, you're the one who told me to just type it into Google, though I sh...
by Noobvestor
Wed May 01, 2013 1:13 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

You're grasping at straws here. Using Alexa to confidently assert you know anything about his web traffic is a joke . Alexa gives a general idea, but you want to get more specific? Sure, let's do that. His Google PageRank is 5 - it's a log scale system from 1 to 10, as you probably know, so 5 is ex...
by Noobvestor
Wed May 01, 2013 2:16 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

It appears to me that it's the "literal" readers of his blog that are either offended by him or may get into trouble because of him, but I suspect those readers (although vocal) are pretty few and far between. Many people coming to his site do so via search engines. His number one traffic...
by Noobvestor
Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:11 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: Collective thoughts

Time flies ... I can't believe I last bumped this two years ago! Still one of the most useful bookmarks I have under 'financial' ...
by Noobvestor
Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:03 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Collective thoughts
Replies: 24
Views: 44951

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

From /r/financialindependence, a SubReddit he co-controls with some other similarly-minded bloggers: This is a place for people who want to become financially independent (FI), which means not having to work for money. Financial independence is closely related to early retirement (ER)--actually not ...
by Noobvestor
Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:27 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

Anyhow, you're still missing the forest from the trees or the mustache from the whiskers, as another poster has aptly described. Maybe in your quest to save us from the dreadful and deceitful MMM, you've missed the purpose of his blog? No, that much is plain as day: he runs it to make money. And wh...
by Noobvestor
Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:05 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

It's a shame people are programmed to believe that working a 9-5 corporate job for 40 years is what qualifies as a productive member of society. How do you get 'people are programmed to believe that working a 9-5 corporate job for 40 years is what qualifies as a productive member of society' from w...
by Noobvestor
Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:31 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

This thread has been quite entertaining so to the OP thank you! I do enjoy MMM so I might be a bit bias in saying, but some of these detractors claiming he isn't "really" retired are hilarious. "HE ONCE PICKED UP A PENNY OFF THE FLOOR THATS NOT RETIRED" :oops: You call managing ...
by Noobvestor
Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:07 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: What do I do with my gold profits?

A big shout out to all of you who took the time to respond, and your collective wisdom. Noobvestor hit the nail on the head when stating that I should get all in or all out with my gold. I had reached this conclusion on my own. In addition to this forum, I have spent time on the internet and readin...
by Noobvestor
Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:44 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: What do I do with my gold profits?
Replies: 14
Views: 1546

Re: Whether to take dividends or automatically reinvest them

I have a lot in taxable relative to tax-advantaged, and have the dividends go to a money market. It only helps so much (a few percent in dividends may not be able to keep up) but better that than not at all.
by Noobvestor
Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:31 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Whether to take dividends or automatically reinvest them...
Replies: 10
Views: 1169

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

Noob, it seems you're set on creating division between BH and MMM users. It is entertaining to watch you cherry pick certain posts from the MMM link and post them over here to paint your little narrative. Haha, what naive fools over there! The general theme of that thread is that most value BH foru...
by Noobvestor
Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:06 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

Second, participants in his forum have themselves confirmed what you can see there, or on /f/financialindependence on Reddit: yes, people are taking his dangerous numeric suggestions and running with them. Need examples? I'll link them for anyone who does. ... He actually says you can live forever ...
by Noobvestor
Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:55 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

2. After reading MMM, I bought a bread machine. Couldn't be happier (though by this date I am not sure I've reached the pay-off point.) Now that I have started visiting MMM's web site, I noticed that he is advocating a no/low-carbohydrate diet, which makes a bread machine quite useless. Victoria I ...
by Noobvestor
Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:50 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

Victoria: I agree with your assertions and reasoning essentially on all fronts. What has personally raised my own blood pressure a bit in this conversation is that MMM has long been quite defensive of his positions, for better, worse and whatever it is worth. But unlike many of the gurus found in th...
by Noobvestor
Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:41 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

Oh good, now we're getting discussed on their forum - how meta! http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/forum/welcome-to-the-forum/lots-of-discussion-at-bogleheads-about-mmm/ From that thread (a poster titled Handlebar, so clearly some level of fan, and with 188 posts) - my bold: Look at how many people have...
by Noobvestor
Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:02 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

Meh. A 4% withdraw rate isn't terrible advice. It's a starting point. You make adjustments along the way to your specific situation. If you're smart enough and savvy enough to save and invest your way to a $800K - $1M net worth in your 30's, you can certainly figure out how a very generic, non-spec...
by Noobvestor
Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:54 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

Anyhow, not sure why I'm still wasting my time and energy defending him. People will always attempt to poke holes in the success stories of others, particularly those that make their successes public. It goes with the territory, and I'm sure he's developed a thick skin. You may or may not be oblivi...
by Noobvestor
Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:52 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

Wow, his cult (sorry if my term for his 'fans' isn't as clever as his term for his critics) following is strong. Sure, you can call the readers of his blog a cult, so long as you're comfortable being labeled as a "cult" of Jack Bogle. didn't call his readers a cult, I called his fans (man...
by Noobvestor
Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:47 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

The above posters have it right: no one here is taking issue with his advice to be frugal - we take issue with his misleading people into thinking luck is the same thing as skill, and that retirement means having a few hundred thousand in the bank and skipping health insurance (by my count he had ab...
by Noobvestor
Sat Apr 27, 2013 2:55 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

Wow, his cult (sorry if my term for his 'fans' isn't as clever as his term for his critics) following is strong. So if I ran the numbers (which I did, based on his site and interviews of his elsewhere) and concluded for myself that they don't add up, what am I supposed to conclude? I see only two po...
by Noobvestor
Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:43 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30

One day, clearly bored, I pored over various interviews and blog posts of his. My conclusion was threefold: (1) he is lying - or, if not, he is confused about his finances. The numbers just didn't add up from one place to the next. (2) To the extent he is telling the truth, he had lucky break after ...
by Noobvestor
Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:44 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Meet Mr. Money Mustache, the man who retired at 30
Replies: 253
Views: 18494

Re: What do I do with my gold profits?

Thanks for the elaboration! It sounds to me like you still believe in the reasons to hold gold, but aren't comfortable with the amount. Now, I'm really going fully subjective here, but a rule of thumb I follow (and see others on Bogleheads mention) is that 5% is the smallest amount of a portfolio wo...
by Noobvestor
Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:36 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: What do I do with my gold profits?
Replies: 14
Views: 1546

Re: my take on the sharp drop in gold

I am too much of a simpleton to understand the gold/silver/platinum markets. If I can not understand it in a plainly written paragraph, I must move on. Not sarcastic: can you really claim to understand stocks or bonds in a plainly-written paragraph? I'm going to attempt all three asset classes just...
by Noobvestor
Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:05 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: my take on the sharp drop in gold
Replies: 25
Views: 2567

Re: What do I do with my gold profits?

I confess I can't answer your tax questions, but I would like to ask you a question in return: if it is 5% of your net worth, why the urge to sell? Is it the drop-off a week or so ago? Have you decided that gold has no place in your portfolio? There is no right or wrong answer here per se, I'm just ...
by Noobvestor
Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:53 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: What do I do with my gold profits?
Replies: 14
Views: 1546

Re: Are bitcoins something like internet tulips?

I also think if a couple serious competitors could tank the value of bitcoin, if people realized there really is no reason for bitcoin to be more expensive than something like litecoin or any other cryptocurrency that is capable of enacting the same things. The implementation is open source after a...
by Noobvestor
Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:28 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Are bitcoins something like internet tulips?
Replies: 62
Views: 3103

Re: Are bitcoins something like internet tulips?

Hey now folks - let's not get carried away into fantasy land with these comparisons. Tulips are a real thing that have real value with real resource constraints. If by 'real value' you mean 'they look pretty' then I guess we have a pretty weak idea of 'real value.' If by resource constraints you mea...
by Noobvestor
Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:07 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Are bitcoins something like internet tulips?
Replies: 62
Views: 3103

Re: Bitcoin - how might it affect international investing?

Just because I like playing devil's advocate, maybe this most recent dip was the First Selloff. Perspective is everything I guess. I'm staying clear of it either way. Oh it absolutely could level out and rise again - I have no real idea. BUT, I do know there was a 'first sell off' already (this cou...
by Noobvestor
Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:35 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Bitcoin - how might it affect international investing?
Replies: 22
Views: 1568

Re: EDV up 2.01% vs BND up 0.13% 4/12 AM

There are a lot of good threads on the historical diversification benefits of EDV/extended-duration treasuries. To summarize some wiser Bogleheads than myself: 1) Too much of it is probably a bad idea for anyone except someone matching a long-term nominal-dollar liability 2) Some, though, can be goo...
by Noobvestor
Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:47 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: EDV up 2.01% vs BND up 0.13% 4/12 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 470
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