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Re: Roth... to convert or not to convert?

Now I don't know If I should put off SS till 66 or take it at 62 at a lower amount due to... "the $32K and $44K base amounts are not indexed to inflation." Holding off gives me a larger SS check but gets me over the "base amounts" quicker because of inflation. I think the increa...
by Electron
Sun May 19, 2013 11:47 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Roth... to convert or not to convert?
Replies: 47
Views: 1847

Re: Roth... to convert or not to convert?

I just realized that there is another good reason to consider a Roth conversion. Most of us have not looked closely at RMDs after age 70. It turns out that the RMD in dollars can increase substantially in later years. If an IRA does very well over time one's tax bracket might get pushed up more tha...
by Electron
Sun May 19, 2013 4:10 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Roth... to convert or not to convert?
Replies: 47
Views: 1847

Re: Roth... to convert or not to convert?

I just realized that there is another good reason to consider a Roth conversion. Most of us have not looked closely at RMDs after age 70. It turns out that the RMD in dollars can increase substantially in later years. If an IRA does very well over time one's tax bracket might get pushed up more than...
by Electron
Sun May 19, 2013 1:33 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Roth... to convert or not to convert?
Replies: 47
Views: 1847

Re: Roth... to convert or not to convert?

Question... If the taxes for the conversion(s) are paid from the IRA at the time of the conversion(s) is that amount (taxes) also taxed as regular income for that/those years? All withdrawals from a Traditional IRA other than after-tax contributions are taxed regardless of how the money is used. If...
by Electron
Sat May 18, 2013 4:38 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Roth... to convert or not to convert?
Replies: 47
Views: 1847

Re: Roth... to convert or not to convert?

As I am in the 15% tax bracket, I am able to take LT cap gains in my taxable account at 0% tax consequence, as long as I stay within the 15% tax bracket, no? If my taxable income (line 43) exceeds the 15% tax bracket due to LT cap gains my taxes are increased because of it. I just ran that thru Tax...
by Electron
Sat May 18, 2013 2:49 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Roth... to convert or not to convert?
Replies: 47
Views: 1847

Re: IRA to ROTH rollover in retirement

What about converting more than the 15% space? That is stuff that would be taxed in the 25% bracket, where I am estimating I will be after I start taking my own social security? Does that make sense at all? Or do effects of compounding make that a losing proposition? I'd suggest modeling your situa...
by Electron
Sat May 18, 2013 2:34 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: IRA to ROTH rollover in retirement
Replies: 5
Views: 400

Re: Roth... to convert or not to convert?

Question... If the taxes for the conversion(s) are paid from the IRA at the time of the conversion(s) is that amount (taxes) also taxed as regular income for that/those years? All withdrawals from a Traditional IRA other than after-tax contributions are taxed regardless of how the money is used. If...
by Electron
Sat May 18, 2013 2:12 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Roth... to convert or not to convert?
Replies: 47
Views: 1847

Re: IRA to ROTH rollover in retirement

Here are some comments I posted in another thread. Note that future and unknown tax rates will determine how much a Roth Conversion might pay off. That is why some people maintain both a Traditional IRA and Roth IRA. I modeled two cases of Roth Conversions in a spreadsheet and one can learn a lot. C...
by Electron
Fri May 17, 2013 4:25 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: IRA to ROTH rollover in retirement
Replies: 5
Views: 400

Re: Roth... to convert or not to convert?

The benefits of a Roth conversion are not really known until years later since we don't know future tax rates. Many people just hedge their bets and convert a portion of their Traditional IRA. Holding an IRA of both types may be an excellent strategy. I modeled two cases of Roth Conversions in a spr...
by Electron
Fri May 17, 2013 2:14 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Roth... to convert or not to convert?
Replies: 47
Views: 1847

Re: Are Short Term Bond Funds My Answer

I'd first check the duration on both the GNMA fund and the Short Term Bond fund. GNMA funds can have a fairly short duration at times. The duration is actually lowered because of the principal payments, and in addition the fund manager may select shorter maturities. Unfortunately, the duration of an...
by Electron
Thu May 16, 2013 5:50 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Are Short Term Bond Funds My Answer
Replies: 10
Views: 1232

Re: When to take RMD - verification

In many cases, your IRA custodian can set up automatic RMDs which also includes using the correct RMD divisor. I'd suggest taking the RMD no later than the first half of December just in case something unexpected comes along. It's even possible for the stock exchanges to be closed under certain cond...
by Electron
Thu May 16, 2013 5:13 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: When to take RMD - verification
Replies: 11
Views: 386

Re: When to take RMD - verification

Many people choose to take their first RMD in the same year they turn 70 1/2. Otherwise, you will have two RMDs in the following year. That can affect your tax bracket. The April 1st date only applies once if you choose to wait until the year after turning 70 1/2. Normally the RMD must be taken by t...
by Electron
Thu May 16, 2013 4:23 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: When to take RMD - verification
Replies: 11
Views: 386

Re: Stocks Relative to Bonds - Most Attractive Since the 197

This is the so called Fed model and it is a failure at prediction. Larry Swedroe writes a lot about this. One wonders if a more accurate model would even be possible. In reviewing Common Sense on Mutual Funds, the table on page 38 shows that the PE effect can be quite large. The other factors are t...
by Electron
Mon May 13, 2013 1:36 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Stocks Relative to Bonds - Most Attractive Since the 1970s?
Replies: 6
Views: 1196

Re: Stocks Relative to Bonds - Most Attractive Since the 197

Thanks Svensk and RM for your replies. I also noticed the relative valuation on the chart during the great 1982-2000 bull market. That was an interesting time because interest rates were extremely high at the start of the period followed by a multi-decade decline. Today bond yields are at the opposi...
by Electron
Sun May 12, 2013 7:42 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Stocks Relative to Bonds - Most Attractive Since the 1970s?
Replies: 6
Views: 1196

Stocks Relative to Bonds - Most Attractive Since the 1970s?

The latest T. Rowe Price Report includes a chart on page 5 showing relative valuations based on Earnings Yield and the 10 Year Treasury Yield. http://individual.troweprice.com/public/Retail/xStaticFiles/Spring2013PriceReport.pdf I'm wondering if this relative value is really significant, or whether ...
by Electron
Sat May 11, 2013 5:32 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Stocks Relative to Bonds - Most Attractive Since the 1970s?
Replies: 6
Views: 1196

Re: Time to rethink placing bonds in tax advantaged?

I have been taking advantage of the 0% bracket for qualified dividends and capital gains, and try my best to avoid ordinary income in taxable accounts. Everyone should review their tax situation very carefully and get a feel for the marginal tax rate for each income category. In my case, additional ...
by Electron
Sat May 11, 2013 1:32 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Time to rethink placing bonds in tax advantaged?
Replies: 15
Views: 1786

Re: open-ended index funds versus ETFs

In regards to ETFs versus open-ended mutual funds, could an open-ended fund possibly be safer than an ETF in a financial crisis? There are four basic types of ETFs that include UIT, Open-Ended Fund, VIPERS, and HOLDRS. http://www.investorguide.com/article/11779/not-all-etfs-are-created-equal-four-ty...
by Electron
Fri May 10, 2013 3:59 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: open-ended index funds versus ETFs
Replies: 6
Views: 433

Re: Vanguard vs. Fidelity

Morningstar is an excellent resource for comparing fund performance and I believe they have accurate total return data with reinvestment of all distributions. Comparing Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Admiral (VTSAX) with Fidelity Spartan Total Market Index Advantage (FSTVX), the compounded return...
by Electron
Thu May 09, 2013 5:23 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Vanguard vs. Fidelity
Replies: 17
Views: 1940

Re: Target Retirement Funds to add international bonds

This thread has been discussing three upcoming changes to Vanguard Target Retirement funds, and includes comments on the new hedged international bond fund, the short term inflation protected securities fund, and the money market fund. Wouldn't replacing the money market fund with a short term bond ...
by Electron
Wed May 08, 2013 5:38 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Target Retirement Funds to add international bonds
Replies: 76
Views: 7631

Re: Yikes, Vanguard CFP rec. 20% bonds for retirement!!!

I never in my wildest dreams expected this AA from Vanguard. One issue is that Vanguard employs a number of financial planners and each planner might provide a different recommendation. It's quite possible that the low 20% in bonds is related to the very low interest rates today and the expectation...
by Electron
Fri May 03, 2013 1:35 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Yikes, Vanguard CFP rec. 20% bonds for retirement!!!
Replies: 73
Views: 6861

Re: 401K Rollover to IRA - Third Party Provider

If possible you should request that the check be made out to "Vanguard FBO.." Thanks for the reminder on the check made out to the IRA custodian FBO owner. Since I have some time I plan to explore Rollover Central a little more. To date I have not seen what options they provide for non-ta...
by Electron
Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:06 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: 401K Rollover to IRA - Third Party Provider
Replies: 15
Views: 531

Re: 401K Rollover to IRA - Third Party Provider

Thanks Brian, Mike, Oilburner, and CaBob for the help. I do have the option of getting the rollover check myself and forwarding it to Vanguard or any other firm. As mentioned, it is very easy to open the new account especially if you already have an existing account at the firm. I'd just prefer an a...
by Electron
Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:56 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: 401K Rollover to IRA - Third Party Provider
Replies: 15
Views: 531

Re: Please help me reduce my taxes

I own a business (that I built from scratch) over the past 10 years that now employs 100 people. A large amount of my money has gone into reinvesting in the business and the majority of my net worth is wrapped up in it too. For the last 2 years the business has really taken off and we are well past...
by Electron
Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:47 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Please help me reduce my taxes
Replies: 31
Views: 2065

Re: 401K Rollover to IRA - Third Party Provider

Here is an update with potentially good news. I may be able to roll assets to Vanguard after all. The third party site is now up and running, and in one section it says "You may choose to roll your account to an IRA with a provider that is not offered through Rollover Central." I'm not 100...
by Electron
Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:00 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: 401K Rollover to IRA - Third Party Provider
Replies: 15
Views: 531

Re: 401K Rollover to IRA - Third Party Provider

Thanks ieee488 and Default User BR. I agree that handling the rollover myself is really best. The main concern is that the check takes a full week to arrive which can be a bit uncomfortable. I guess I'm hoping someone will recommend the third party provider for one reason or another. In fact, there ...
by Electron
Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:42 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: 401K Rollover to IRA - Third Party Provider
Replies: 15
Views: 531

Re: 401K Rollover to IRA - Third Party Provider

From your own description, the low-cost providers are not on the list, and it will likely generate fees for the provided choices. Thanks for your comments and I agree regarding personal information. Many of the brokerages can be ruled out for various reasons but there are several good choices such ...
by Electron
Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:43 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: 401K Rollover to IRA - Third Party Provider
Replies: 15
Views: 531

Re: Please help me reduce my taxes

Just got my federal and state taxes completed thru my CPA firm and the amounts owed are pretty large. I know that is a good problem to have, but I feel the need to try to reduce them next year. Other than charitable contributions (I already do a bunch of those each year), does anyone have any good ...
by Electron
Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:51 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Please help me reduce my taxes
Replies: 31
Views: 2065

401K Rollover to IRA - Third Party Provider

Has anyone used a third party provider made available by your 401K plan to set up and process an IRA rollover? If so, I'd be interested in any feedback or comments. My plan will soon have this capability and I believe the third party is the company listed below. Everything can be done online from th...
by Electron
Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:36 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: 401K Rollover to IRA - Third Party Provider
Replies: 15
Views: 531

Re: Vanguard High-yield Corporate

Here is the iShares iBoxx $ HY ETF (HYG) over the past 5 days. The chart makes an excellent point but note that the drop in NAV on April 1 was the result of the fund going ex-dividend. Here is a comment in reply to the original post. Compare Vanguard High Yield with similar funds from other fund gr...
by Electron
Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:02 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Vanguard High-yield Corporate
Replies: 15
Views: 1417

Re: ETFs, Tax Efficiency, and Capital Gain Distributions

Thanks David.

I just discovered that there are four basic types of ETFs and they are a little different (UIT, Open End, VIPERS, HOLDRS).

http://www.investorguide.com/article/11 ... -from-igu/
by Electron
Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:49 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: ETFs, Tax Efficiency, and Capital Gain Distributions
Replies: 4
Views: 413

Re: ETFs, Tax Efficiency, and Capital Gain Distributions

Thanks David for the help. That's a good point on the Vanguard ETF percentage in relation to the open ended share classes in any given fund. If nothing else, ETF redemptions in-kind could work at eliminating the lowest cost basis shares. However, I just realized that the open ended fund could have b...
by Electron
Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:52 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: ETFs, Tax Efficiency, and Capital Gain Distributions
Replies: 4
Views: 413

ETFs, Tax Efficiency, and Capital Gain Distributions

Many of us have read that ETFs may be more tax efficient than open ended funds when it comes to capital gains distributions. I believe the key factor in this is the ability of an ETF to reduce their holdings in the lowest cost basis securities held in the portfolio. These securities can be passed al...
by Electron
Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:49 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: ETFs, Tax Efficiency, and Capital Gain Distributions
Replies: 4
Views: 413

Re: 401K Plan Closing Accounts of Retirees

Duckie - Thanks for the Fidelity link which was the exact information I had been looking for earlier. It takes some time to get familiar with a new site. The Spartan Index funds do look like excellent possibilities with low expenses. With the less than exciting outlook for bonds in an improving econ...
by Electron
Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:43 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: 401K Plan Closing Accounts of Retirees
Replies: 13
Views: 916

Re: 401K Plan Closing Accounts of Retirees

Thanks all for the help. I would prefer Vanguard in many ways but also feel that I should diversify in terms of firm and custodian. Fortunately, I have a number of years to make a decision although I might do the rollover well in advance. I also had the thought that retirees probably add much more t...
by Electron
Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:00 am
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: 401K Plan Closing Accounts of Retirees
Replies: 13
Views: 916

401K Plan Closing Accounts of Retirees

My 401K plan has a new policy and will close the account in the year after the owner reaches age 70 1/2. Any required RMD will be processed and the balance will then be mailed to the owner for rollover to an IRA. I'm wondering if anyone has come across this kind of policy or can suggest why they mig...
by Electron
Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:49 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: 401K Plan Closing Accounts of Retirees
Replies: 13
Views: 916

Re: What is a Boglehead's net worth?

I think net worth implies the value before any future taxes, but the after-tax value is also of interest. Consider the difference between a large Roth IRA and a large Traditional IRA or 401K of the same dollar amount. A taxable account might only be worth 60-80% of the value of the tax free account....
by Electron
Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:21 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: What is a Boglehead's net worth?
Replies: 80
Views: 10411

Re: Dollar Bill Smaller in Both Dimensions

Thanks all for your comments. Here is some information on the United States one dollar bill from Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_one-dollar_bill The bills are 72.3% cotton and 27.7% linen. It could very well be that my bill did shrink for some reason. There is some information ...
by Electron
Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:36 pm
 
Forum: Personal Consumer Issues
Topic: Dollar Bill Smaller in Both Dimensions
Replies: 20
Views: 2456

Dollar Bill Smaller in Both Dimensions

I recently noticed that one specific dollar bill dated 2009 in my wallet was shorter than all the rest. The normal specification for a dollar bill is approximately 6.14" x 2.61". After careful measurement of several bills, I found that the bill in question is about 0.10" shorter in wi...
by Electron
Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:24 pm
 
Forum: Personal Consumer Issues
Topic: Dollar Bill Smaller in Both Dimensions
Replies: 20
Views: 2456

Re: Handling a large I-Bond Position

Once the first bond reaches its 15 year of existence, I am going to cash in using the following method: year one - 1/34 of outstanding value year two - 1/32 of outstanding value year three - 1/30 of outstanding value ... year 18 - remaining balance The suggested schedule may go beyond the 30 year p...
by Electron
Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:50 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Handling a large I-Bond Position
Replies: 19
Views: 1234

Re: Social Security - Periods Where Waiting Has No Benefit?

Delayed retirement credits are first paid in the following January. Thanks for the explanation. If I understand this, one can apply for benefits after full retirement age and start receiving benefits often the next month. The amount would go up the following January based on delayed retirement cred...
by Electron
Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:58 am
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Social Security - Periods Where Waiting Has No Benefit?
Replies: 8
Views: 1471

Re: Social Security - Periods Where Waiting Has No Benefit?

One of the things about SS that I have learned to appreciate during the last couple of years is how flexible SS is. Excellent point and I agree. Waiting could also be a benefit to those that might be hit with Medicare surcharges. The threshold is not all that high for single taxpayers. Here is anot...
by Electron
Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:27 am
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Social Security - Periods Where Waiting Has No Benefit?
Replies: 8
Views: 1471

Re: Social Security - Periods Where Waiting Has No Benefit?

P.S. you have to understand the meaning of "not increase benefits" means. Your monthly benefits go up, but you don't live long enough to collect more* than if you had just started a little earlier. Thanks sscritic and mickeyd for your replies. I now understand the point the author was try...
by Electron
Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:53 am
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Social Security - Periods Where Waiting Has No Benefit?
Replies: 8
Views: 1471

Social Security - Periods Where Waiting Has No Benefit?

Here is an article discussing periods where waiting to take Social Security may not increase the benefit. They cite age 62 through age 63 and 11 months, and age 65 and 4 months through age 66 and 8 months. These numbers are for those with full benefits at age 66. http://blogs.marketwatch.com/encore/...
by Electron
Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:51 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Social Security - Periods Where Waiting Has No Benefit?
Replies: 8
Views: 1471

Re: Vanguard is on the Password Hall of Shame.

You must enter the website some other way because I am given no such option that I can see. I'll look into clearing cookies. One does need to start without a cookie from Vanguard. You will then be given options, and at that point you can force the use of security questions on every log-in. With 50 ...
by Electron
Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:43 pm
 
Forum: Personal Consumer Issues
Topic: Vanguard is on the Password Hall of Shame.
Replies: 250
Views: 18383

Re: Vanguard is on the Password Hall of Shame.

Note that it is possible to force the use of security questions on every log-in. How do you reset that setting once set? They give you the option at each log-in. It comes up when they ask whether you are using a public computer. Note also that one can delete cookies and that should force the use of...
by Electron
Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:24 pm
 
Forum: Personal Consumer Issues
Topic: Vanguard is on the Password Hall of Shame.
Replies: 250
Views: 18383

Re: Vanguard is on the Password Hall of Shame.

What I worry about is how easy it is to reset your password at various financial institutions. When someone can get a new password for your account by answering some non-secure "security questions", that's where the problem lies. Has anyone experimented with incorrect answers to security ...
by Electron
Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:06 pm
 
Forum: Personal Consumer Issues
Topic: Vanguard is on the Password Hall of Shame.
Replies: 250
Views: 18383

Re: Capital Loss Carryover

A tax loss is often more valuable when used to offset ordinary income. The limit has been $3000.00 per year.

If that is the case, one could defer taking the capital gains and use a portion of the loss each year to offset ordinary income.
by Electron
Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:53 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Capital Loss Carryover
Replies: 8
Views: 573

Re: When to sell mutual funds

If the fund isn't listed at all, does that mean none of the dividends are qualified? High-Yield Corp, for example. The Vanguard table that I referenced was provided to show Estimated Capital Gains. Note the following statement in the Bond fund section: "Bond funds not listed here aren't expect...
by Electron
Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:54 am
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: When to sell mutual funds
Replies: 16
Views: 1042

Re: When to sell mutual funds

I would also look carefully at the expected distributions from the mutual funds. Some fund groups provide information on any expected short term capital gains which come through as non-qualified dividends. One could reduce exposure to the tax impact of those dividends if selling before the distribut...
by Electron
Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:37 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: When to sell mutual funds
Replies: 16
Views: 1042

Re: Money Fund Float?

Money market funds would also be required to re-price their shares at $100.00 per share Thanks for passing that along. One key issue would be whether the funds could maintain an NAV of $100.00 most of the time, or whether NAV would drop to $99.99 or lower, or increase to $100.01 or higher, a reason...
by Electron
Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:31 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Money Fund Float?
Replies: 45
Views: 2293
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