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Re: What the blank is going on with bonds?

Why are you watching interest rates and your fund values every day? Stop it. Nothing good will come of it. It is noise. You are not supposed to pay it any mind.
by Elbowman
Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:07 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: What the blank is going on with bonds?
Replies: 14
Views: 1089

Re: Tax-Deferred = No Cap Gains benefits?

As others have pointed out, you pay income tax in both cases, either now if you invest in your taxable account, or upon withdrawal if you use an IRA. The difference is with taxable accounts you also pay capital gains tax, where with IRAs, you don't.
by Elbowman
Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:05 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Tax-Deferred = No Cap Gains benefits?
Replies: 18
Views: 820

Re: How can I improve my portfolio?

I just ordered "bogleheads guide to investments" so I'll begin that when it comes in. Thats the best idea. Read a few of the books off the reading list. I also liked "All About Asset Allocation" and "A Random Walk Down Wall Street". Your portfolio will be just fine for...
by Elbowman
Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:57 am
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: How can I improve my portfolio?
Replies: 10
Views: 697

Re: Isn't Tilt or splice and dice = active mngmnt?

Remember, one of the worst parts of active management is the high fees that are typically involved, often with ERs close to 1%. Vanguard SCV has an ER of 0.1%. Also, I find the arguments that small caps have additional undiversifiable risk fairly compelling, which should mean that in the LONG term, ...
by Elbowman
Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:59 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Isn't Tilt or splice and dice = active mngmnt?
Replies: 58
Views: 1989

Re: Individual Stocks VS Mutual Funds/ETF

Yes, but I don't care, I sacrifice stability for returns (that's why I also don't invest in bonds). The majority of people want more stability, that's why they should do this only if they aren't risk adverse, and have extra money or many decades ahead to invest. It seems foolish to not care what ki...
by Elbowman
Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:23 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Individual Stocks VS Mutual Funds/ETF
Replies: 49
Views: 1697

Re: VWO up 1.6%, VEMAX down .06% today?

Dale_G wrote:Nothing to worry about.
Except, of course, the stress you may cause yourself by paying attention to the minute movements of your portfolio. :wink:
by Elbowman
Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:38 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Emerging Markets ETF (VWO) up 1.6%, VEMAX down .06% today?
Replies: 15
Views: 1321

Re: Time to dump bond funds?

At no point is it ever "time to dump" any fund that was worth buying in the first place.
by Elbowman
Fri May 31, 2013 9:26 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Time to dump bond funds?
Replies: 25
Views: 2355

Re: Why do Vanguard funds not weight foreign allocations rig

Foreign stocks have currency risk, which is uncompensated. So the point of view Vanguard has with its target retirement funds is you only need enough foreign stocks to get the bulk of the diversification benefit. Adding more international than needed adds risk without return.
by Elbowman
Thu May 30, 2013 1:07 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Why do Vanguard funds not weight foreign allocations right?
Replies: 5
Views: 451

Re: Why Invest in bonds at all?

Try using the search function. There have been at least two of these threads per week for the last several months.
by Elbowman
Mon May 27, 2013 3:21 am
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Why Invest in bonds at all?
Replies: 21
Views: 2708

Re: My thoughts on the drop in bond prices after Bernanke ta

Browser wrote:It's a matter of balancing rewards (puny) with potential risks (large).
You seem to have been reading the forum a lot recently. I'd imagine you are able to construct the typical Boglehead argument against the quoted statement.
by Elbowman
Thu May 23, 2013 7:27 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: My thoughts on the drop in bond prices after Bernanke talk
Replies: 43
Views: 4034

Re: Farm Income vs. Bond Income

I don't know much about investing in farms, but I imagine it's not something you frequently buy and sell (to be used for rebalancing)? If thats the case, I would agree with Riprap. Going below 20% bonds adds a lot of variance for a relatively small amount of return.
by Elbowman
Wed May 22, 2013 12:57 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Farm Income vs. Bond Income
Replies: 11
Views: 697

Re: 63yo moved 401k to 100% cash, how/when to restore AA?

A drop in the stock market isn't the only way the P/Es could be corrected. It could be that stocks will simply return 5% annually for the next ten years, still significantly higher than bonds but low enough that the P/Es will slowly drop.
by Elbowman
Fri May 17, 2013 1:08 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: 63yo moved 401k to 100% cash, how/when to restore AA?
Replies: 32
Views: 3086

Re: Thought on my portfolio

Most people here use low cost, broadly diversified index funds, because historically they have done much better than the average person playing the stock market. Check out this link: http://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Boglehea ... philosophy
by Elbowman
Thu May 16, 2013 4:23 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Thought on my portfolio
Replies: 4
Views: 403

Re: VWELX vs Three fund portfolio?

The worst feature of actively managed funds tends to be their cost. Since Wellington has a relatively low ER it should have reasonable performance relative to index funds.
by Elbowman
Thu May 16, 2013 4:12 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: VWELX vs Three fund portfolio?
Replies: 8
Views: 833

Re: Gold

technovelist wrote:I'm not too concerned about this drop, as I expect the price to continue its decade-long rise
If I held an asset class that had maintained abnormally high returns for the last decade, I would be concerned, not comforted. Mean reversion and all.
by Elbowman
Thu May 16, 2013 4:06 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Gold
Replies: 78
Views: 3222

Re: Larson Financial

Check out this page: http://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Bogleheads%C2%AE_investment_philosophy . Everything on it is important, but in particular look at the section titled "Keep Costs Low", and you will see the massive difference an extra 1% in expenses will have over your lifetime. Also, VUL...
by Elbowman
Tue May 14, 2013 6:30 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Larson Financial
Replies: 15
Views: 819

Re: The new profitability factor, US and int'l evidence

Since increased profitability doesn't seem like a risk I imagine it must be a behavioral phenomenon, but I don't see why people should be adverse to investing in profitable companies. Larry, do you have a feeling for why a profitability premium should persist?
by Elbowman
Tue May 14, 2013 3:25 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: The new profitability factor, US and int'l evidence
Replies: 169
Views: 8312

Re: Please critique this Singaporean portfolio

On the other hand, I'm concerned about having too much of my allocation in Singapore's tiny stock market and feel a need to diversify further. I'd be concerned bout that too. The capitalization is probably similar to US microcaps. At some point that risk may outweigh currency risk, but I'm not sure...
by Elbowman
Thu May 09, 2013 2:07 am
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Please critique this Singaporean portfolio
Replies: 11
Views: 569

Re: How should I allocate and invest $450,000?

Does my asset allocation seem appropriate given the amount of money being invested? No, not really :( Seriously, don't jump the gun with this. Behavioural mistakes like being impulsive are what lose the most money for the average investor. Anyway, you have the right general idea, but 5% bonds and i...
by Elbowman
Fri May 03, 2013 11:57 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: How should I allocate and invest $450,000?
Replies: 22
Views: 3262

Re: REITs... buy more?

Do you have an IPS?
by Elbowman
Thu May 02, 2013 12:51 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: REITs... buy more?
Replies: 23
Views: 2278

Re: How should I allocate and invest $450,000?

Read several of the books on the Bogleheads reading list http://www.bogleheads.org/readbooks.htm . After you've done that you will be much better prepared to convince your father. You will also look back in horror at a time when you were preparing to invest even 10% of your trust in high fee active ...
by Elbowman
Thu May 02, 2013 3:06 am
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: How should I allocate and invest $450,000?
Replies: 22
Views: 3262

Re: Retiring in 2015, where to invest for low to moderate ri

Your age is important here. Looks like you have ~10% in stocks. That's fine if you're in your 90s, but if you're in your 60s it's probably too conservative. I'd use age in bonds as a reasonably conservative upper bound for fixed income.
by Elbowman
Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:38 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Retiring in 2015, where to invest for low to moderate risk
Replies: 6
Views: 795

Re: Penny stocks. Is this a scam for 95% of investors?

People who know which penny stocks will make then rich do not need to sell news letters. Speculating on penny stocks is probably always a mistake (unless it's just for fun, in which case don't gamble more than you would at a casino. Your odds are probably worse).
by Elbowman
Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:35 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Penny stocks. Is this a scam for 95% of investors?
Replies: 14
Views: 1418

Re: Your Move, Bogleheads: Advisor Finds DFA’s Returns Trump

He says that while DFA’s funds cost 25 basis points more, on average, than Vanguard funds, “the smallest investors at Vanguard will pay 70% more for a basic market fund than they would for a comparable DFA fund.” Sooo dishonest :( ... So the "smallest investors", who don't have 10k for TS...
by Elbowman
Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:37 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Your Move, Bogleheads: Advisor Finds DFA’s Returns Trump Van
Replies: 71
Views: 4794

Re: Roll out initial investments over how long time?

I don't think there is a correct answer here, rolling out is more of an emotional crutch, but perhaps an important one. Think of it this way though: if you had everything invested now, would you sell? If not, then why not put it all in now?
by Elbowman
Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:10 am
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Roll out initial investments over how long time?
Replies: 20
Views: 900

Re: Where to put an emergency fund?

Currently, safe investments lose value to inflation, and thats about it. The exception might be I Bonds, but those don't really help you due to the annual contribution cap.
by Elbowman
Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:25 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Where to put an emergency fund?
Replies: 9
Views: 1145

Re: Simple Plan for Life - Early 20s

There may be companies that do better "tilting" funds, but when it comes to total market or large cap blend, no one beats Vanguard.
by Elbowman
Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:48 am
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Simple Plan for Life - Early 20s
Replies: 9
Views: 897

Re: Question about rates of return with and w/o bonds

As others have said, in this case "expect" does not mean "can rely on".
by Elbowman
Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:02 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Question about rates of return with and w/o bonds
Replies: 61
Views: 2208

Re: Whole life and Long term tax planning

The savings on commission goes into your policy as cash value right away which, in turn reduces the break-even point from 15 years down to 5 years or less. I think "break-even point" is the wrong phrase here. You are referring to the point at which the CSV is equal to the total premiums p...
by Elbowman
Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:48 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Whole life and Long term tax planning
Replies: 30
Views: 1131

Re: Whole life and Long term tax planning

The drag of an extra 1-2% cost, compounded over 50-60 years, is going to trump any tax advantage WL could possibly offer.
by Elbowman
Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:13 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Whole life and Long term tax planning
Replies: 30
Views: 1131

Re: "Bond Market Bubble?"

The problem with applying the term "bubble" to bonds is it implies bonds might "pop" like stocks to, and lose 20% in a day or 50% in six months. It seems more likely that bonds will just "deflate" over five to ten years. The difference in the emotional experience of the...
by Elbowman
Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:10 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: "Bond Market Bubble?"
Replies: 52
Views: 3767

Re: Malkiel & Ellis Inventors of Indexing Warn About Bonds

One of the most important philosophies that I associate with Bogleheadism is this: You are probably average. The average investor is best served by investing as if he or she is average. Therefore, you are probably best served by investing as if you are average. Now here's the point many people seem ...
by Elbowman
Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:56 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Malkiel & Ellis Champions of Indexing Warn About Bonds
Replies: 85
Views: 7139

Re: What percentage of stocks beat their index?

I don't know the exact numbers, but I believe I have read the the median stock return is less than the mean stock return. This is because the downside potential of a stock is limited to 100% loss, where the upside potential is unlimited. As a result, a small fraction of stocks with stellar performan...
by Elbowman
Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:18 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: What percentage of stocks beat their index?
Replies: 7
Views: 780

Re: Feedback on my portfolio

You are paying too much for some of your funds. At least get rid of anything with an ER > 0.5, dropping funds > 0.3 would be even better. I also second using the traditional 401(k). You avoid paying your marginal tax rate now (38%), and instead pay your average tax rate in retirement (which could ea...
by Elbowman
Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:07 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Feedback on my portfolio
Replies: 12
Views: 886

Re: What are your thoughts on currency baskets?

If it's only $2500 and it helps you sleep at night that sounds fine. In the same way that buying $2500 worth of Beanie Babies would be reasonable, if it gave you peace of mind.
by Elbowman
Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:12 am
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: What are your thoughts on currency baskets?
Replies: 13
Views: 672

Re: No discusson of bonds now that Stockton officially bankr

Jfet wrote:Any ripples in the muni bond market? Good time to buy, sell, ignore?
Always a good time to ignore. :D
by Elbowman
Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:18 am
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: No discusson of bonds now that Stockton officially bankrupt?
Replies: 22
Views: 2377

Re: Munis and Stockton California

cks wrote:Those with minicipal bond holdings need to pay attention.
A long term, buy-hold-and-rebalance investor with diversified mutual funds NEEDS to pay attention to current events? I'm not sure about that...
by Elbowman
Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:42 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Munis and Stockton California
Replies: 18
Views: 1718

Re: Advice Needed: Investing Based on Market Capitilization

IMO, the best arguments against a cap weighted domestic/international split are 1) international is still a little more expensive,and 2) currency risk is uncompensated. I'm not saying your approach is wrong, just that there is some merit to the other side.
by Elbowman
Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:28 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: Advice Needed: Investing Based on Market Capitilization
Replies: 2
Views: 236

Re: More conservative than three-fund portfolio?

The usual rule of thumb is to try and assess the largest loss you would be comfortable with (easier said than done), and then hold twice that much stock (this assumes market crashes wont be much worse than a 50% loss). So, if the most you can stomach is a 20% drop in portfolio value, choose a three ...
by Elbowman
Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:01 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: More conservative than three-fund portfolio?
Replies: 7
Views: 779

Re: Please critique this employer-provider portfolio

Morningstar itself did a study using all of its data, which showed (as has been shown many times before) that the only factor that correlates with future success is cost, and that is an inverse correlation. The most likely return for ANY fund is market return for the segment it invests in, minus the...
by Elbowman
Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:07 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Please critique this employer-provider portfolio
Replies: 10
Views: 388

Re: Long term stock market risk

My intuitive (and non-mathematical) view of risk compounding over time is this: The Dow closed at 14,000 on Friday. I am willing to bet a large sum of money that at close of business day on Monday it will be in the range of 14,000 +/- 200. I would never make that bet on the Dow closing value one ye...
by Elbowman
Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:04 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Long term stock market risk
Replies: 51
Views: 3550

After Tax 401k to Roth IRA in TurboTax

Hi Folks, Sorry for another TurboTax question, but I wanted to be sure before I submitted, and I didn't find what I was looking for using the site search. In 2012, I made both a non-deductible TIRA to Roth IRA conversion, and a After Tax 401(k) to Roth IRA conversion. I received two 1099-Rs, and fol...
by Elbowman
Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:22 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: After Tax 401k to Roth IRA in TurboTax
Replies: 2
Views: 200

Re: Turbo Tax - 401K After-Tax Rollover to Roth IRA

Was anyone else surprised that this shows up on a 1040 line labeled "Pensions and annuities"? Does the IRS consider 401(k)s as pensions or annuities, or are they just so slow in updating their forms that they haven't included 401(k)s yet.
by Elbowman
Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:11 pm
 
Forum: Personal Finance (Not Investing)
Topic: Turbo Tax - 401K After-Tax Rollover to Roth IRA
Replies: 11
Views: 737

Re: Shedding Light on Invisible Costs:Trading Costs& Perform

So I'm trying to apply this information to the actual value of Vanguard Small Cap Value. My logic could be wrong in a number of places, so please tell me if I'm making a mistake. First, in All About Asset Allocation, Rick gives a conservative estimate of 3% for the SCV premium going forward. However...
by Elbowman
Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:32 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Theory, News & General
Topic: Shedding Light on Invisible Costs:Trading Costs& Performance
Replies: 20
Views: 1248

Re: How would you deal with a serious offer for pre-IPO shar

So I suppose the question is, what's the Boglehead-y thing to do? Is a bird in hand really worth two in the bush? What if the bird (private investor) represents a 100% chance at a middle-class lifestyle and the bush (IPO) represents a 65% chance at an upper-middle class lifestyle, 30% chance at a m...
by Elbowman
Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:20 am
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: How would you deal with a serious offer for pre-IPO shares?
Replies: 14
Views: 1009

Re: vanguard total international and intl value?

Plus, if you look at the morningstar style boxes for the vanguard international value fund you see that there is very little value tilt.
by Elbowman
Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:09 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: vanguard total international and intl value?
Replies: 9
Views: 679

Re: FINALLY decided on a portfolio.

When it comes to tax efficiency, SCV is not terrible, but its also not as good as TSM or TISM. I'd consider keeping all of your SCV in tax advantaged space.
by Elbowman
Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:42 pm
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: FINALLY decided on a portfolio.
Replies: 5
Views: 513

Re: AAPL

Will Vanguard be switching Apple from the growth index to the value index?
by Elbowman
Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:40 am
 
Forum: Investing - Help with Personal Investments
Topic: AAPL
Replies: 76
Views: 8292
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